According to sources, one thing TNA wanted when negotiating with WWE for Ric Flair’s Hall of Fame participation was that they wanted it to be said in some way during the show that Flair worked for TNA or was there due to TNA.
We’re not sure if WWE agreed to that particular stipulation, but it was one of the key things that was being discussed over the past few weeks.
Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
I appreciate TNA allowing Ric Flair to attend the Four Horsemen's introduction into the Hall of Fame, even though if they said no, it might've caused a tirade. But, Flair should thank TNA for allowing him to attend this event on his own. TNA's Upper Management shouldn't be telling him he has to.
TNA is trying to get a cheap plug on a WWE show. Little does TNA know, president Obama could plug TNA on national TV and it wouldn't help. Face the facts TNA: you're more known now than 2006 and yet your shows gets almost the exact ratings it did then and the buyrates have FALLEN a significant margin. Most people know what TNA is but decide not to watch it for a laundry list of reasons why and I can't blame them. Flair saying I work for TNA isn't going all of a sudden have a swarm of WWE fans google TNA and then become avid watchers of the product. Instead, try listening to your audience and see how that much helps than forcing 20 years out of their prime talent down their throats every second of air time you have, TNA. At the very least, you won't have to can your TV shows anymore.
We’re not sure if WWE agreed to that particular stipulation, but it was one of the key things that was being discussed over the past few weeks.
Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter
I appreciate TNA allowing Ric Flair to attend the Four Horsemen's introduction into the Hall of Fame, even though if they said no, it might've caused a tirade. But, Flair should thank TNA for allowing him to attend this event on his own. TNA's Upper Management shouldn't be telling him he has to.
TNA is trying to get a cheap plug on a WWE show. Little does TNA know, president Obama could plug TNA on national TV and it wouldn't help. Face the facts TNA: you're more known now than 2006 and yet your shows gets almost the exact ratings it did then and the buyrates have FALLEN a significant margin. Most people know what TNA is but decide not to watch it for a laundry list of reasons why and I can't blame them. Flair saying I work for TNA isn't going all of a sudden have a swarm of WWE fans google TNA and then become avid watchers of the product. Instead, try listening to your audience and see how that much helps than forcing 20 years out of their prime talent down their throats every second of air time you have, TNA. At the very least, you won't have to can your TV shows anymore.
Actually, Flair mentioning TNA in his HoF speech would probably bring a minor boost to their ratings, just like every other stunt they've pulled to boost their ratings. Then people tune in, see Hogan and Sting still fighting it out, and 1/2 of the dudleys being pushed, and they're right back where they started. I quit watching after Bound For Glory last year; has anything changed?
ReplyDeleteMeh. I think enough people know about TNA, just don't watch. MAYBE and just MAYBE the rating would go up like .1 but I really doubt that. And Russo, the "cancer" of TNA, was fired but it's still is a train-wreck so no. I try to watch it sometimes but can't. The only two interesting wrestling in the company are Austin Aries and Bully Ray. And they're one of the very few who get natural and not canned responses.
ReplyDeleteRusso finally got his futures endeavored? Maybe I'll give them a look next week.
ReplyDeleteEhhh, I wouldn't if I were you. Although the Roode vs. Storm feud isn't that bad at all, even if it smells just like HBK vs. HHH circa 2002.
ReplyDeleteDoes he have to refer to it as TNA or Impact?
ReplyDeleteWow these 'Kyle's News' things have became very old, very quickly.
ReplyDeletebobby roode is the man FACT.
ReplyDeleteOlder fans are going to wonder why Flair is thanking Test and Albert for letting him attend the Hall of Fame.
ReplyDeleteHe shouldn't have to just mention TNA, he should give them his "they are the greatest organization in the world" speech he gives to whoever he's awaiting a cheque from.
ReplyDeleteIt's just sickening that he bolts from WWE and runs to TNA, run by people he talked shit about for years, and once he has the chance to show up in WWE he's runs to them. TNA should get something out of this at least.
To be fair, people might know TNA but they might not know that Flair is there. Knowing that a company exists and knowing that someone you know very well and with whom you are familiar works for that company are two entirely different things. I guess the ratings would and buyrates would indicate whether people like Sting, Hogan, Flair, RVD, etc. have brought in numbers, but again, it might only be that we know they're there b/c we're wrestling fans. More casual people might be thinking, "Hey, where's Poochy? Er, Ric Flair? Oh, he's in something called TNA? I should check that out to see him."
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ReplyDeleteAs I said in another comment, I think that we're really only looking at the people who already watch wrestling. It might be more accurate to say "I think enough wrestling fans know about TNA just don't watch."
Never underestimate how WWE fans =/= wrestling fans.
As good as Roode and Storm may be, I can't take Southern style gimmicks seriously in 2012. No one with a cowboy hat should be contending for a world title - its not 80's NWA.
ReplyDeleteif The Rock can't move the ratings up and get tons of "casuals" (btw: fuck them!) to watch Raw I highly doubt that Ric Flair (who has never been that "mainstream attraction" anyway) can do it for TNA.
ReplyDeleteI think Kyle Fitta hit the nail on the head in his analysis.
ReplyDeleteI feel like I missed a memo on who Kyle is....
ReplyDeleteThese Kyle posts sound exactly the same as every other wrestling "news" report that cretins with a wrestling observer subscription litter the Internet with.
ReplyDeleteKyle, cease and desist.
The funniest thing is I don't have the Observer or read the Observer.
ReplyDeleteAt first someone complained about it because I didn't put my name in it because they thought it was Keith. Even thought they could have just clicked out which would've taking 10 seconds. But I took the liberty to change it. When I came to the site, I asked Keith what he wanted me to do. He told me he wanted me to post news and put my 2 cents on it. I just did that.
ReplyDeleteThe funniest thing is: you're complaining about something becoming old. Instead of complaining about things, I usually do something about them. If I don't want to read something, you see, I don't say anything. Why waste posting words on something you disagree with so much? I don't see the point in it other than you want to get over.
And this is what this site is: people who want to get more over by posting on a blog site about wrestling. And yes, my opinion and philosophies on wrestling may be different from the next guy but I try to back up my opinion as much as I can. No, I am not Scott Keith or even Keith JR. I don't have the same writing style. I'm not like most who have tried to emulate him. Sorry, it's just not me. In fact, I don't listen to many people's opinion about wrestling except on occasion a wrestling shoot by booker or wrestlers. That's what made the guy say I have an Observer account funny. The only reason I use Observer news is because I just it.
So you just steal "Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter" garbage just like every other cut & paste mark on the internet?
ReplyDeleteScott Keith asked me to post news with sources to help get better views for the site. Since Observer is credible and since it's popular, I used its articles. What I didn't know was this would end up in a tirade. After all, I was just trying to help out the site. But people like you ruined that. Now I am no longer doing it. It's not like I was getting paid. It's not like I was getting perks. I was doing it to be helpful.
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ReplyDeleteI don't have the Observer or read the Observer."
So where do you get the articles?
I have to say that some of the abuse Kyle has received is out of order.
ReplyDeleteHe's been asked to do a job by Scott and was clearly enthusiastic about doing it. Whilst I would concede that his work hasn't set the world on fire, I would say that it is perfectly acceptable - and that with some constructive feedback - it would continue to improve.
Kyle, reconsider and ignore the haters.
Uhhh other sites? Duh.
ReplyDeleteSo, youreallyhavenoideaif thosesitesareactuallyquotingtheWON. That'sprettypoor journalism.
ReplyDelete(Reposting because the original thread is too deeply nested to read.)So, you really have no idea if those sites are actually quoting the WON, do you?Here's a clue - markboards make up shit all the time and put "Credit: Wrestling Observer" or "Credit: Dave Meltzer" on it all the time. A few years ago, someone did that with a fake story about a certain third-generation star being busted for drugs, and Dave not-so-subtly threatened a lawsuit.That's not only pretty poor journalism, it also could be a huge liability for Scott, since he is hosting the site.
ReplyDeleteTNA had every right to make demands out of WWE. Flair is a TNA contracted talent and WWE advertised Flair without asking first. Tickets sold out largely because Flair was advertised as being there. We don't know what the actual deal was. But I get the sense that TNA actually let WWE out easy here. I personally wouldn't have allowed Flair to go without some major compensation. TNA had all the legal cards here. And lets be fair to TNA here, they are paying Flair 200,000 a year. Its not his fault that they aren't getting their return on that. But at the same time they are paying him. Flair and WWE should respect that. I just hope Dixie didn't cave because she was a mark for Flair and the WWE Hall of Fame.
ReplyDeleteBut I really don't see any senario where TNA being mentioned would have benefited TNA. Since the story was about Flair going into the Hall with the Horseman. TNA would have come off as an afterthought. So the compensation probably would have had to do with a talent exchange or some type of money settlement.
Ooof. And speaking of how not to take criticism... Writing a 5-paragraph opus makes you look a bit defensive.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that you sound so condenscending. I mean, TNA wants a plug, that's all. But they way you write makes you seem like a jerk.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the majority of the readers, too much Kyle Fitta