I thought this was a good read - and didn't know at all what had happened to Perry Saturn.
http://www.thewhig.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3540204
I had heard about it at the time but I'm glad he's got his life back in order again. And agreed, a really interesting read. Tommy was always a good guy and never seemed to get caught up in any of the other activities that brought down most guys.
Good for Tommy for still being married to Beulah after all these years. She was one of the hottest chicks in wrestling in her day, and it's good to see she's stuck with Tommy, who's a decent guy and very well liked in the business.
ReplyDeleteI am, however, surprised that Heyman has kids. I always thought he was a not very well hidden closet case, or at least that was always the rumor. It certainly seemed to make sense.
Tommy still should have won the ECW title at Barely Legal. Even if he was injured he could have immediately lost it back to Raven or Stevie or Funk.
ReplyDeleteHe should have never won the title period. Terry Funk winning with help from Tommy was the perfect ending.
ReplyDeleteWasn't the rumor always that he and Raven were a "thing?" It'd make sense given Heyman's complete verbal blowjob of Raven on the Rise & Fall DVD... plus that "Kanyon takes Raven shopping" bit from WCW.
ReplyDeleteTommy finally beating Raven on their first PPV would have been EPIC. They could have easily recapped the story for new viewers during the show or even the pre-show.
ReplyDeleteWait, Gran Naniwa is DEAD?!?!
ReplyDeleteA middle-aged Jewish man living in his parent's basement into his 30s? Surely you jest!
ReplyDeleteOh fuck I didn't know either! A heart attack at 33? Shit.
ReplyDeleteMan, all of the deaths are depressing. There is almost one deceased wrestler per match.
ReplyDeleteWell, having a kid isn't necessarily proof of anything.
ReplyDeleteThat Kony 2012 guy had a son too...
If she still looks like she did at One Night Stand, I'd call Beulah one of the hottest chicks in wrestling even today. Now THAT'S a Milf!
ReplyDeleteShe's gotten a little thicker but she doesn't look terrible.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.wwe.com/classics/wherearetheynow
With all the shoot videos out there with ex-stars looking to grind some axes, you'd think that this would have come up at some point (especially the Raven thing). Since it hasn't, I call shenanigans on that particular rumor. Of course, (and it always amazes me that no one ever considers the possibility) it could be that Paul plays for both teams.
ReplyDeleteSo...having kids means you're not gay?
ReplyDeleteOkay now....
A little off putting how he reports certain things with the exact same levity.
ReplyDelete"Taz has a Twitter account. Pitbull #2 is dead."
Depends on how you got them.
ReplyDeleteI know that that's not 100% true from either direction but come on now, you know perfectly well what was meant by that. I'd never heard of Paul getting involved with any woman or anything.
ReplyDeleteI'd heard that rumor about Raven before too, actually. But he's been a lot more on record as being a poon hound, so I dunno.
ReplyDeleteI have had three people I know announce they were gay in the post Friends/Ross era. My best friend in high school, who had a girlfriend for two years that he had sex with often had later got married, then realized he was gay. no kids yet. My manager at Hollywood Video when I was the assistant had a wife who decided she was gay. They had a teen daughter at the time that had been created the old fashioned way. My brother in law's wife decided she was a lesbian. They had a son who was a late teen, created the old-fashioned way. Procreation and children have nothing to do with someone's sexuality. In our puritan society it sometimes takes folks time to figure out what they want or who they are.
ReplyDeleteYeah she's still got it going on. Good for her. I'd like to see what Kimona Wanalaya looks like nowadays. In ECW she got my vote for hottest chick in wrestling, possibly of all time.
ReplyDeleteYeah, that bothered me a little, too. I'm guessing that he was just being succinct for brevity's sake, but still.
ReplyDeleteI was speaking more rhetorically, not trying to push an agenda or anything.
ReplyDeleteWell, not really liked. But I agree. Also I threw a copy of the show in today for shits and giggles and it was terrible.
ReplyDeletenot sure how saying "depends on how you got them" implies anything other than if someone had sex and had kids then they shouldn't be gay.
ReplyDeleteWhen I typed it I honestly wasn't thinking this way. I was more referring to the actual process of having kids. It was a stupid joke I now realize.
ReplyDeleteI know nothing about Paul beyond him being BFFs with Lesnar and being a huge MMA fan.
ReplyDeleteWell, gay people can adopt/artifically inseminate.
ReplyDeleteEpically terrible. Tommy not having a title was the whole point.
ReplyDeletefair enough
ReplyDeleteI never bought into Heyman being a closet case since he and Brock are best friends, and we all know Brock's attitude towards homersexuals.
ReplyDeleteHas Brock publically stated he's a homophobe?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I think it was in an ESPN article where they spent some time with him.
ReplyDeleteIf you google 'Brock Lesnar hates gays' I'm sure it'll come up.
he cute and curvy blonde 20-something had no idea what she was getting herself into. In her barely-there halter-top and her glossy red lipstick, she slithered into the giant's arms, set her chin on his chest, looked up into his eyes and delivered the message she had been sent to ask."My friend Shawn thinks you're kinda cute," she said.
ReplyDeleteBrock Lesnar was a bigger-than-life star of professional wrestling, ...
Not Shawna. Not Shana.
Shawn.
The 6-foot-3, 290-pound Goliath, the guy who benches 475 pounds, squats 695 pounds, steamed.
"Yeah?" the former pro wrestler said, his voice growing louder, his eyes getting bigger. "Well you tell that ..."
To print what Brock Lesnar said might make even John Rocker blush. But after his curse-laden outburst, he turned to a nearby reporter and explained, "I don't like gays. Write that down in your little notebook. I don't like gays."
Brandon Stroud nailed why I love Brock being a douchebag despite legitimately thinking he's a terrible person.
JT Smith used to work for Comcast here in Richmond. Incredibly nice guy who spent a LOT of time talking to my father and me when I'd rent a cable box. Can't say enough nice things about the guy.
ReplyDeleteDreamer sounds like the most succinct version of wikipedia ever. Meanie went to WWF, now he has a son. Nova went to WWE, now he works at a bank. Not much of an article here, really.
ReplyDeleteDoggies eat applesauce to save the ozone layer.
ReplyDeleteLooks like a chick i banged back in the day. The thicker version, not the hot version
ReplyDeleteHE HAS. I knew a girl when i was in the USAF that talked about her "boyfriend". She talked about her her and her "bf" would fuck and all that... One day she didnt come to work and her "bf" came for some reason...
ReplyDelete...yeah...
Point is, Raven could be saying he is getting poon, but it could be guys he really is talking about.
reminds me of those list songs like 88 lines about 44 women or People that died or that Offspring song that ripped both of those off
ReplyDeleteJericho talks about his friendship with Raven in his book, and how they'd chase women. Doubt Jericho's gay, have you seen his wife?!??
ReplyDeleteCheck that. I did see Dancing With The Stars.
ReplyDeleteIn regards to the rumors of Heyman's and Raven's sexuality, it could be that a lot of (straight) Jewish men can seem slightly effeminate. And I say that as a straight Jewish male - I realize I'm not exactly a "macho" guy, I don't know anything about sports or cars of farming or construction.
ReplyDeleteBack to the point, a common stereotype amongst Jewish males is that they speak in a somewhat exaggerated manner; whether that means speaking with our hands, speaking in a louder-than-usual volume, being touchy/feely in terms of giving hugs or putting a hand on a listener's shoulder, etc. Combine that with the stereotype that people with high IQs will often be identified as "light in the loafers" simply due to liking, say, classical music, and it's easy to see how an intelligent Jew could seem gay.
To put it in wrestling terms, look at Damien Sandow - the guy's entire gimmick is that he's an intellectual, would it really surprise anybody if fans ended-up chanting derogatory terms at him? Or if Vince decided to portray the character as being in the closet? Even Jericho and Miz can seem somewhat "gay" in their promos, when using large words and speaking in an overly dramatic fashion.
I read the tone as a kind of nostalgic melancholy: "This is life in all its ups and downs; look at where we've all gone from that one moment in time." I definitely don't read it as levity.
ReplyDeleteWell, that's a shame. Still, not too surprising given that Brock's entire existence has been male locker rooms.
ReplyDeleteShe's a small Asian, so probably exactly the same.
ReplyDeleteThey don't look 30 until they're 50.
Im not saying ravens gay, im just sayin perhaps he might be talking about banging dudes... hes a carny.
ReplyDeleteBut never did i once talk about jericho... nor do i care.
But since you brought it up, basically what you are saying is that since jericho signed off on raven chasing girls... not necessarily catching them mind you... hes straight. So it couldnt be a question of whenever jericho and raven werent together raven COULD have gone off and fucked a guy?
again im not saying raven is gay. im just saying that you can not dispell it.
I had that thought. But once they start to age, they age ALL at once. Especially Filipinos, which I think Kimona is.
ReplyDeleteso what you are saying is that unless we are watching someone 24/7 their entire life, we can never unequivocally say they aren't gay. While that may be true, agreeing to your definition seems a bit broad for any discussion of who was/is/or might be homosexual
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