Scott,
So after a month or so, I'm still scratching my head over the Brock Lesnar thing. Cena beats him in his return match, shrugs off the beating in an inexplicable post-match promo, Lesnar breaks HHH's arm, and there is hardly any mention of any of it as we slog forward thru Cena vs. Ace/Big Show stuff? Was the Brock thing just a one-off match and we were making too much of a long-term contract? We have "waited to see" and I'm still not getting it.
Just wait until HHH goes over at Summerslam, and then you'll finally see the big picture and understand their brilliant plan.
I have a feeling they may be backloading all his Raw appearances for the run up to WM. As long as they do the buildup right for whoever he is facing at WM, it won't matter that he lost to Cena.
ReplyDeleteI have a feeling they have no idea what the long-term plan is for Brock.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure they have a general idea, I mean there is only 3 or 4 guys he could face at WM.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Vince, when he hired Brock was like. "I'll show you. I'll job you to everyone! HHH and Cena, even Zack Ryder and Punk and Bryan Daniel. That'll teach you to leave me for greener pastures."
ReplyDeleteAnd Brock, when he heard the plan was like. "Isn't his name Daniel Br...Actually, you know what? I don't care. Are you paying me all at once or in installments because I'm actually putting in a new hot tub in my mansion and, you know. I was wanting to buy a ruby encrusted towel stand."
And Vince said. "I'll be jobbing you to everyone! Mwahaha."
And Brock said. "Yup. sounds great, don't care. So...have you written out the check yet?"
I'm wondering...just when *was* the last time that we have been swayed by a brilliant long-term plan coming to fruition?
ReplyDeleteOh, Im sure they have in mind the WrestleMania match. But when you sign a guy to a $5 million, 1-year contract...you should probably do more stuff with him.
ReplyDeleteat this point, doing what the IWC thinks will happen would be a swerve in and of itself. Maybe Stephanie is more meta than we thought.
ReplyDeleteTechnically it's a 1 year deal, but they only have him for 7 more PPVs and like 1 or 2 Raw appearances to build to the PPVs that he is on.
ReplyDeleteStill waiting for the explanation why HHH went over Punk last year, or why their hottest property in years was programmed with fucking Kevin Nash of all people.
ReplyDeleteI actually wouldn't have minded a Punk / Nash feud. Assuming Punk went over. It was one of the very few interesting stories. They didn't need any nonsensical text message capers. Just. An old vet talking shit, a new guy comes up and tells him to stop. And the old guy realizes what all men and women must face, the tragedy of growing old and losing a step. If done right, it could have been interesting.I can buy Punk's anger at all of these old friends of HHH. I can buy an older guy lamenting his loss of power.
ReplyDeleteBut god forbid they actually pay off the story. Even if the wrestling sucked. would it have mattered?
Some day...years from now...when Aurora Rose Levesque unifies both the
ReplyDeleteWWE and World Heavyweight Championship after wrestling every match at
Wrestlemania (she'll break the Undertaker's streak way before...probably while in fifth grade) and has an Eddie/Chris moment with her father at the end of the show, we'll look back at this Lesnar thing and be like, "eh, it wasn't so bad."
I hope that this means that they hold him out until October, and use him for every PPV thereafter. Would suck to have to resort to the "Brock quit/is fired/cannot compete for some lame reason" gimmicks three or four more times in this run.
ReplyDeleteAnd then KICK WHAM PEDIGREE
ReplyDeleteI said some really stupid shit because my source (smell the mystery!) explained to me that they had intentions of having Lesnar cost Cena the win at OTL so that Brock would murder Cena at the returning No Way Out.
ReplyDeleteThat did not happen. Vince has a way of changing things.
I was insulting a bunch of people because I felt like nobody was letting this thing simmer. I am now understanding that, indeed, HHH wants to do a two-match series with Brock, where HHH goes over Brock (and completely zap his heat), but Brock gets the last laugh.
If that's the case, Flair4dagold, Cultstatus, Joe, Love Matic Grandpa...I owe you a major apology.
They truly DON'T know what to do with Lesnar.
If you're going to make him a glorified JTTS why don't they give the wins to someone that could use them like Bryan or Punk? Cena and especially HHH are over for life. How the hell does this benefit anyone?
ReplyDeleteI think they'll bring him back for Summerslam and then sit him out a couple during the fall but then go straight through from Survivor Series to WM.
ReplyDeleteI imagine a world in the future where Vince's head is kept in a jar to stay alive (a la Kitty Carlisle on The Simpsons' "Match Game 2020").
ReplyDeleteJarhead Vince then books Rose Helmsley to go over Jimmy Jarrett (hypothetical son of Jeff) to win the IC Championship.
*gasp* are you implying good sir that TNA may not survive another 20 years to give Jimmy Jarrett his proper nepotism run?
ReplyDeleteDon't worry. Jimmy will start off with a hot rookie run, followed by a brief stint with WWE, where he debuts "With My Baby Again" before jobbing out to Lil' H..
ReplyDeletePuppet H is pulling the strings and we will all be happy. Just wait to see it play out.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, I was actually looking forward to the Punk/Nash feud, with a simple storyline similar to what you're proposing. And Nash IS a name, and having Punk beat a veteran that was a foot taller than him would have been a nice way to build Punk up a bit.
ReplyDeleteBut, then... yeah, it all went to Hell. And Nash's mic-skills went to Hell, too. Seriously, Nash used to be one of the best talkers in the business, last year he sounded like a drunk Alzheimer's patient.
A guy who was a WWE writer's assistant during Sept-Dec. last year is currently posting on a message board I'm on, and he said they basically scuttled everything related to Punk/Nash because of not only Nash failing his physical, but also that there was a huge negative reaction to his mic work, that he was not the Big Daddy Cool they were hoping for and that Punk outclassed him pretty easily there too.
ReplyDeleteI actually find that very refreshing about Brock - he's not bullshitting anybody, and he really doesn't care about jobbing. Good for him. Whatever his motives, it's nice that story-lines won't be crafted and altered simply to suit his ego.
ReplyDeleteInstead of all this shit about quitting, being fired, contract disputes that will be settled in front of a judge, etc., wouldn't it be easier to just say "Brock's a big star, and he signed a very pro-Brock contract"?
ReplyDeleteHell, not only would it be easier, it would also FIT WITH HIS CHARACTER! Imagine that! Brock Lesnar has a giant ego and a bad attitude, and would only come back for a lot of money and the ability to pick-and-choose when he competes. What a totally ridiculous storyline that would be!
On Court Bauer's podcast, Konnan said the problem was Nash's execution: he decided to play the part of the heavy, rather than the overgrown smark he was in WCW.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but does Cena care? Does Punk care? The difference is that we're tired of Cena. I could watch Brock murder guys for a year as long as the person to finally go over him wasn't Cena or Rock or HHH.
ReplyDeleteNash was always much better at being the laid-back smartass than the big angry guy that grunts and yells.
ReplyDeleteOh, I'm not saying that he SHOULD job, I'm just saying that it's nice to see a guy not taking "the business" so seriously.
ReplyDeleteAt the end of the day, you're a guy in rubber underwear pretending to fight, and (quite often) not exactly doing the most convincing job of it. You'd think six- and even seven-figure incomes would be enough motivation for most of these guys to just sit back and do what their boss tells them, but a lot of them insist on playing politics and hurting other people, solely in the name of making their fictional character look good.
Jericho is the only really big-name guy that doesn't mind coming back simply to put others over.
Apology accepted, man. It's above and beyond the norm in our anonymous Internet world, and for that I have a ton of respect.
ReplyDeletealthough protecting your "spot" does make sense financially. because once you are jobbed out you might not earn as much money in the future.
ReplyDeleteWhile I agree that, in theory, being higher on the card leads to a higher pay-check, I think the wrestlers themselves should realize that being a low-drawing #1 may actually result in LESS money than if they were part of a higher-drawing group of five or so.
ReplyDeleteRock, Jericho, Batista, Savage, and plenty of others all made a pretty penny despite never really being the #1 guy in the company. Look how much better Shawn Michaels did when he was part of a group of guys carrying the show, instead of the ONLY guy carrying the show.
Of course, I'm talking about guys that are already pretty much "made"; maybe not the tippy-top, Hogan/Austin/Cena guy, but still somebody that has been pushed steadily in the main-event scene. If we're talking about mid-carders who haven't really been given a chance (Ziggler, for example), then, yeah, the argument is different. I'm just talking about the top guys that sign six- or seven-figure contracts: that, in itself, should really be enough to satisfy anybody's ego, so why they think that they can't help others is beyond me.
just think that anon writer on the other blog got folks thinking "ohh HHH/Steph, they're alright, swell folks" yeahh and it seems they love the spotlight as much as Vince or the next whomever, whomever
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