Was always curious how the main event match of Fall Brawl 94 came to be. It was Dusty & Dustin Rhodes & the Nasty Boys vs Terry Funk, Bunkhouse Buck, Arn Anderson & Col. Parker. How was that a main event at that time? The Dustin vs Studd Stable feud was not a main event feud. Hogan had debuted a couple of months earlier & wasn't even on the card, and neither was Flair. What gives?
Well, much like Brock today, they had a certain number of dates with Hogan per year, and didn't want to blow them on shows that wouldn't make back the investment. Plus Rhodes v. Studs absolutely was a big program stemming from Arn turning on Dustin at Bash at the Beach, so I can at least understand the rationale there. It was Wargames with a pretty hot feud, so why not?
I just watched that. weird.
ReplyDeleteThe Fall Brawl 94 War Games match was good. No blood though which kinda sucked.
ReplyDeleteIt occurs to me that I don't think I've ever actually seen a WarGames match. Any suggestions on where to start? '89 is supposed to be one of the best right?
ReplyDelete1998, classic.
ReplyDeleteIf nothing else, Dusty helped sell it with this promo.
ReplyDeleteThanks for answering Scott. I was only like 10 at the time so I had no idea how important Dustin vs the Studds were in the grand scheme of things.
ReplyDeletehahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahhaahahahaha,
ReplyDeleteThe Arn turn was both logical and perfectly done. It was ARN, Dustin. Then Dusty begged Dustin to let his old man stand beside him, and that in-ring promo had the arena in a riot.
ReplyDeleteThe best War Games match was probably the 92 version which blew off the whole Dangerous Alliance storyline. All the 80s matches were good as well though, as well as the one from 91. Other than the 94 version though, the rest range from either sub par to completely awful.
ReplyDeleteThe only ones I've seen are 1997, 1998, and the one where Sid nearly killed Brian Pillman (90?). 1998 is horrible, the other 2 are pretty good.
ReplyDelete'89 is thought to be a good one, but sort of one of the lesser ones.
ReplyDeleteI'd say start with either 1987 or 1991 first. I'd be very curious to hear what you think of 1992 -- a lot of people feel it's the best of the bunch, but I've seen a few people say they didn't like it as much as 1987 or 1991.
1993/1994/1995/1998 are all pretty much junk.
1996 is enjoyable, but in a different way than those others. It's heavier on story and the booking is really good. 1997 is similar.
92 was the best. The first ones, with JJ's Four Horsemen are really great, too. But you have to understand 80s NWA to get it.
ReplyDeleteFor something that's not technically a Wargames but has the same spirit, check out Generation Next vs. The Embassy from ROH.
ReplyDeleteAlright I've got 87, 91 and 92 loading up on DailyMotion/Youtube while I make lunch, assuming the monsters sleep right after lunch I'll have them all viewed before the Raw thread lol
ReplyDeleteFall Brawl 1994 was actually the very first PPV I ever watched live. That was when PPV finally came to my hometown. I wasn't even into WCW at the time, but I was a huge Hulkamaniac so I followed him over.
ReplyDeleteI don't care what anyone says about Dusty, he makes you BELIEVE. Doesn't even matter if you can understand what the fuck he's saying, you BELIEVE in whatever it is.
Agree wholeheartedly here - that was the match I used to intro my local wrestling geek friends to ROH.
ReplyDeleteYeah, let us know what you think! You should give a little mini review haha.
ReplyDeleteYep....his classic "Hard Times" promo was another example of that. I've never been a Dusty fan, but that one always brought chills down my spine. People who wonder about Dusty's appeal just need to listen to that promo.
ReplyDeleteAnd how about that crack WCW production crew missing the turn as it happened? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x70ghd_bunkhouse-buck-terry-funk-vs-dustin_sport
ReplyDeleteThread Jack: Apparently Cena tweeted that he was going to have a "historic anouncement" tonight. Who wants to lay odds that he is going to announce Beniot going into the Hall of Fame?
ReplyDeleteProbably that he'll be in the MitB. Which would be a big deal but I don't know about "historic".
ReplyDeleteQuick observations on '87:
ReplyDeleteHoly shit is the production horrible. I used to watch all this era's stuff via an old Earth Station at my grandpa's cabin in the Cascade Mountains out here in Washington and I'm sure the quality was about par with the YouTube video I found but sweet fuck...there is like...no production value to this PPV at all. We are truly a spoiled generation when you consider my broken iPhone takes better quality video than a PPV television camera could in 1987.
Arn Anderson is fucking amazing, poor guy starts bleeding at the 2 minute mark, Arn was the goddamn MAN.
What the fuck is that Bill Alfonso wearing a 70's porn stache outside the ring?
Halfway through the crowd is losing their shit, Vince would pray for this kind of reaction to anything outside a Rocky match today.
I'm starting to see why all you NWA-heads get such a boner for this concept. This match is off-the-chain entertaining. What a shame we never got something like this for the Nexus angle or even Evolution, I feel like H could super-easily play the Flair role here.
Between Animal, Hawk and Nikita poor Arn gets his piledriver no-sold like 20 times, lol. =(
And then it just...ends...
How the hell did they even know War Machine submitted? lol There was no tapping back then, there was no ref in the ring...I'm so confused.
And then it cuts to the awful credits sequence, Executive Producer Virgil Runnels, so I guess the WarGames concept is Dusty's then?
That match was fucking great until that blah finish.
the promo was good mostly I'm thinking that I need to get some 5 star first gear.
ReplyDeleteOmg I would buy every cena tshirt if he did that
ReplyDeleteBitches love 5 Star First Gear.
ReplyDelete92 is the best. 89 is a fun one, but I don't think it had a really hot angle behind it.
ReplyDelete91 and 87 are the only ones available on DVD that I'm aware of: the Pillman DVD for the 91 match and the 4 Horsemen DVD for the 87 version.
The MitB is going to close the show this year? Awesome.
ReplyDeletethe dangerous alliance vs stings squadron ftw!
ReplyDeletelots of blading.
hahaha. this is amazing. wtf were they thinking?
ReplyDeleteThe 1992 one is awesome. Great match, great story-telling, great commentary.
ReplyDeleteThe 87/88 ones do need to be taken in context. They weren't PPV matches, they were just a part of the Great American Bash tour, and the inclusion of JJ Dillon (or the War Machine) telegraphs the finish to a modern viewer.
I just looked up the history of Wagames on Wikipedia, and found some interesting little tidbits. They used to run Wargames in house shows and as part of the Great American Bash Tour, and it led to some interesting lineups. While most of the 1987/1988 ones were iterations of Horsemen vs. Dusty/Nikita/Road Warriors there were some variations. One of the 1987 ones had Ron Garvin/Dusty/Windham/R&R Express vs. Arn/Tully/Big Bubba/Midnight Express.
ReplyDeleteAnd some of the 1991 ones look awful.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames_match#Match_history
That was the 1991 one.
ReplyDeleteAwesome....if you want to see Cena overcome everyone.
ReplyDeleteThe best part of Fall Brawl 1994 wasn't the great triangle match, but it was when Johnny B. Badd won the TV title and the crowd, full of white guys in wifebeaters, celebrates like their favorite football team won the Super Bowl. Wrestling...bringing different people together one event at a time.
ReplyDeleteYeah I was checking it out too as I'm going through some of the more recommended matches and it's crazy how many times that match actually ran the house show circuit.
ReplyDeleteThat means *all* of those house shows had the two rings right?
What did they do with the second ring during regular matches? Just put the lighting down on it? Or would guys work both rings? Seem totally crazy and 80's lol.
They could have used the 10 biggest jobbers in the promotion and made it a WarGames match and I would have bought it as a main event.
ReplyDeleteProof positive nothing good come from over scripting everyone's promos
ReplyDelete"no production value to this PPV at all. We are truly a spoiled
ReplyDeletegeneration when you consider my broken iPhone takes better quality video
than a PPV television camera could in 1987"
I could be wrong, but I think the match you're referring to, with the War Machine, wasn't even a PPV match. The GAB PPV was on July 4th, 1987 and had J.J. Dillon. He legitimately got hurt in the match, so they stuck Ray Traylor in a mask and called him the War Machine to take his place for some of the other shows. I think the one you're referring to was from just a few weeks later, and was probably taped for some sort of eventual home video release.
But there are two 1987 Wargames that have video footage, they're pretty much the exact same match. There were a few non-televised ones in 1987 as well.
Depends on the gimmick actually. It works for Damien Sandow (assuming his stuff is all scripted) but wouldn't work for Dean Ambrose.
ReplyDeletenot to beat the dead horse cause I know it won't happen (and it's debatable as a business decision) but having Cena cash in on Rock after Rock fulfills his promise to be champion seems like a hell of a way to turn him Heel
ReplyDeleteIf it leads to Cena/Punk III at Summerslam? Awesome is correct.
ReplyDeleteThe only problem there is if it's at Wrestlemania, everyone would know it's coming.
ReplyDeleteHeh, yeah I was just joking but like Mike said Punk/Cena3 at Summerslam would be incredible (with Cena undoubtedly going over as usual)
ReplyDeleteThat would certainly make more sense if it wasn't even a PPV match because the camera work is downright fucking atrocious, especially if you put it against stuff the 'E was doing at the time like SNME and WM3.
ReplyDeleteStill a great, SUPER-HOT match though once you get used to the poor quality (which was actually more nostalgic to me than really jarring)
Read this line regarding the '98 war games; Hogan entered the cage early, by force, so he and Stevie Ray could take
ReplyDeleteout all the other participants, including their teammate Bret Hart."
and i thought 'why would he attack his teammate', then it continued!
When
Hogan went to pin Kevin Nash, smoke engulfed the ring and it appeared
that The Warrior had magically entered the cage. Hogan and Stevie Ray
beat him down, but more smoke appeared, and when it cleared away The
Warrior was gone leaving Hogan holding his coat."
so I thought "WTF", BUT WAIT THERE"S MORE
"The real Warrior then
ran out from the back to enter the match. Hogan would eventually force
his way out of the cage door, with Warrior following suit by climbing up
the cage wall and kicking it in."
and at that point i just said "Fuck it"
LOL
ReplyDeleteBoy that Warrior run was BAAAAAAAD. I remember clicking over from Raw when he first appeared (at the top of the hour of course) and just thinking..."Yeah um...I'll take Rocky and Steve, thanks though WCW."
His American Dream promos were really great too, though maybe I've just been biased by reading so much Thompson that I'll mark for any American Dream references.
ReplyDeleteI don't think it's possible for me to see a Cena Heel turn coming anymore, no matter how foreshadowed
ReplyDeleteI'd say the odds are 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 to Never
ReplyDeleteYeah, if you can find the one with Dillon instead of the instead of the War Machine it probably has slightly better quality. At the very least it has sound commentary! Although as you'd expect the match is almost identical.
ReplyDeleteYeah the commentary on the one I watched was very weird, it was just Tony and I'd assume they did it after the fact for a video release or whatever but if it was after-the-fact then it's even weirder because there were many times where Tony would just...stop.
ReplyDelete"Oh my! Here we go everyone! Once the final man has entered the ring then the action will really..."
And it would just trail off like that for about 60 seconds and then he'd come back in with:
"And here you can see Dusty and Flair are going at it."
It was just so...totally disjointed and bizarre.
"and i thought 'why would he attack his teammate'"
ReplyDeleteIf I remember correctly, one of the idiotic stipulations of the 1998 one the winner of the pinfall got a shot at the world title. So attacked Bret so he couldn't get the pinfall.
So much of what was wrong with WCW in 1998 is apparent in just that match.
1) The horrible Warrior return
2) The Hart/Hogan as friends/enemies/friends/enemies/friends/enemies storyline
3) The over-protection of 'big-name' wrestlers, which led to Stevie Ray being included (was there anyone on earth who didn't know the finish would involve him getting pinned once they saw the line-up?)
Let's not forget the trap-door which caused Davey Boy Smith's back injury that led to him getting addicted to pain killers...
I used to watch wcw alot at that time. This was absolutely featured heavily on wcwsn as the main angle. I understand dustin in any main event (outside Calgary stampede ppv) is questionable but thats what they pushed
ReplyDeleteI wonder if they would book cena to cash in his mitb in typical fashion or have him do an rvd and challenge for a ppv ahead of time? And I wonder which would piss us off more
ReplyDeleteI would love it if it lead to punk beating big show at ss with punk giving everything he had to beat show and then have cena cash it in and celebrate babyface style
ReplyDeleteOh man that's good stuff
ReplyDeleteThe version I've seen has no commentary at all.
ReplyDeleteIt was pretty common to edit matches for home video release - you couldn't fit as much on a VCR tape as you can on a DVD. So Tony's commentary may just be on the parts there were meant to be included on the final version.
They also might have edited it to show clips on the various syndicated shows, and Tony just added commentary to the parts that were re-broadcast later.
Yes! The dangerous alliance one is the shit
ReplyDeleteWar Games really was a main event in any arena across the country, wasn't it?
ReplyDeleteI love the way Dusty talks like he's larger than life and a regular person all at the same time. Even his exaggerations are rationalized; like he calls Dustin "..the greatest athlete in our sport at your age." He's not saying Dustin's the best athlete in wrestling, but the very best at his age. It's little things like that which prevent someone from sounding like a jackass (i.e.: Cole, Michael)
ReplyDeleteWhile I've never seen it, I've heard the ROH/CZW match that was fought under Wargames rules was awesome. I keep meaning to try to dig it up.
ReplyDeleteIf their competing for the pinfall why call them a fucking team lol
ReplyDelete"American Dream? I think that's where the old Psychiatrist's Club used to be."
ReplyDeleteIf I was ever a wrestler or manager my gimmick would basically just be a ripoff hybrid of Duke & Gonzo.
That irritates me SO much more when I went back and thought about the fact that it was AT FUCKING FALL BRAWL! TWO GODDAMN RINGS! You couldn't have told the guys in the ring "hey, there's a trap door in this ring, go work the other one."? Or even just put it in the ring that was farther away that you knew most people wouldn't use? It was just negligence on WCW's part, pure & simple.
ReplyDeleteI get the feeling Davey was no stranger to the pills beforehand but still, it's a damn shame he had to begin his spiral in a match against Disco Inferno and Alex Wright.
Yep, welcome to 1998 WCW.
ReplyDeleteWorst run ever by a legit wrestler? Even shane douglas's cup of coffee in the wwf was better imo
ReplyDeleteEveryone points to the "Fingerpoke of Doom" as the event that killed WCW, but really things were going downhill before then. The Warrior return is a great example, as was the Hart/Hogan storyline.
ReplyDeleteLol, either way you can guarantee the blog *will* be pissed off!
ReplyDeleteI'm sure they'd do the RVD thing. Or better yet have Punk outright *DARE* Cena to challenge him and turn the whole surprise angle on it's head.
Yeah, I think the version you are watching is from the 1987 GAB Tour Highlight tape. The commentary for that was definitely dubbed in later,.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. It's amazing no one has even tried it yet.
ReplyDeleteI'd think the idea of "Gonzo Journalism" (never knowing what's real or fake in the story) would fit wrestling more than perfectly when really, they're the same fucking thing.
That's probably something best left for a guy like Ambrose and even then it could only be done right in some weird Indy somewhere. The 'E would eat a nuanced gimmick like that alive.
The 89 match was actually a convergence of a few feuds: you had the Midnights fighting the Freebirds over the tag titles, alongside Dr. Death's individual feud with Gordy, added to the Road Warriors wanting revenge on the SST for "the Marietta Massacre," and of course the SST helped the Freebirds win the tag belts against the Express earlier that summer.
ReplyDeleteI'm the asker of the question...
ReplyDeleteI watched WCW at that time too, but didn't have cable so only saw WCW Worldwide. I remember the Rhodes vs Stud Stable feud being a focal point, but whatever Hogan was doing being much more important. Considering WCWSN was 2 hours it probably got more airtime there.
Still amazing though how that feud was got to blowoff as the main event of a ppv. Can you imagine anything like that happening today?
87 or 91, 92.
ReplyDeleteI was going to say yeah I know,it would be like if (random midcard feud ) main evented the July ppv and then I realized there are mid card feuds lol. Maybe cody vs Christian?
ReplyDeleteI guess maybe it would have been closer to a nod vs dx ppv main event in 1998. Wcw booked so many weird fucking things. Is it bad i miss it lol
Watching 1991 now, from WrestleWar in like February of that year, I
ReplyDeleteguess off the WWE DVD release since the logo is in the corner.
It makes sense that Brian Pillman would be the first guy to start
throwing himself off the cage/using the cage as a way to do moves like a
hurricanrana.
The production value is MILES better than 1987.
JR sounds so young and hungry in the booth, and using Tony to announce
the time remaining in the periods is the best use of that hack ever.
Ric Flair has Jack Swagger's haircut. Boo.
Holy shit, Sting gets like Austin98 pops here. I've never really seen
his stuff outside of some Clash matches. He was obviously fucking CRAZY
OVER back then. I assume this was during the big Sting/Flair feud (hence
the match duh)
Oh yeah..Zybysko used to actually wrestle.
I have the same sort of problem with this concept that I do with the
Rumble, the whole beginning portion is just a time-sink. It's like a
basketball game, there's really no *actual* reason to pay attention to
the first 75% of the match because you know it's not going to end until
at least 25 minutes in. It's a standard gripe that can be applied to
anything really but it seems more annoying in matches like this.
I love old school wrestling and their "tape up random body parts"
philosophy. Pillman has his...shoulder taped...I guess? And Ric Flair is
sporting tape around his quad for God knows why.
Referees having to hold Scott back from going into the ring is a great
touch and I *fucking love* the idea of "The Match Beyond has now begun!"
What a great tagline for after the countdown! Genius!
Are we sure Rocky isn't supposed to be doing a Scorpion Deathlock
instead of a Sharpshooter? Sting's looks even looser and lazier than Rocky at XIX
here.
Hahahaha, omg the "all the faces put on the figure four" spot is so dumb
and hokey and totally AWESOME, something only a WCW crowd would buy
into. I'm legit lol'ing at this.
'There's no way to get out unless you get out." Ahhh...Dusty. Why can't we have him calling RAW instead of Lawler again?
Holy fuck Sid just killed Brian Pillman. Like, for real killed him. Wow.
That was the most horrific looking powerbomb I have ever fucking seen.
Jesus Christ.
And then it just...ends. AGAIN.
Hmm. I'm not so sure about this concept lol. Is it always a weird
disjointed sudden ending that comes out of nowhere? Am I too spoiled by
the multiple-finisher modern era?
I like all the crazy action and the bleeding and everything but so far
I'm 2/2 in matches that just sort of stop with no real clear build to a
finish, they just...stop.
Hopefully 1992 has a decent ending otherwise I"m kind meh on this whole
WarGames idea, at least as it was. I'm sure if they bring it back now
they'd do a 30-finisher ending sequence.
the GAB was a show tour during the jun-jun months from like 85-87 and the wargames was the thing they did at the end of the night.
ReplyDeletethe one u watched was Wargames 2. Wargames 1 is even better and earlier in the 87 GAB tour and had JJ Dillon who like someone said, fucked his shoulder up taking a bad doomsday device from the LOD. Wargames 2 is basically the same match as 1 (think of it as a house show where they run the same match around the loop) but one is inifinitely better and has even more heat to the point where u cant hear Jim and Tony call the match
I guess it would be like if Team Johnny vs Team Teddy wasn't thrown together a few weeks before WM just to get a bunch of guys on the show; if it had been a long simmering feud between the GM's, the stakes were high enough that that same 6 on 6 that happened at mania could have headlined Over the Limit.
ReplyDeletenot for nothing he did put punk over twice before...
ReplyDeleteOk I'm going to try to find the original 87 match after I watch 92 then. Sounds much better than the one I watched which was, to put it mildly, kind of bleh.
ReplyDeleteWell sure I'm just figured there's no way he goes over again, we have to get the title onto to someone that can wrestle Rock and it seems pretty clear they have no intention of letting anyone outside of Cena get near Rocky's heat.
ReplyDeleteThough I'm not really sure they'd want Cena to job to Rocky AGAIN only to have Cena eventually beat him for the title back but still only be 1-2 in the series.
Who even knows anymore after the way they handled Brock.
Fittingly, Dr. Thompson used to cover wrestling for a newspaper in the earliest days of his career in the 50s. He's made references to writing stories about "Momo the Killer Jap" before.
ReplyDeleteDid you ever read Eric Szulczewski's "Fear and Loathing in Houston" column from before Wrestlemania X-7 where he plays Duke and Scott plays Gonzo? Pretty fun stuff although I can't find it anywhere now.
No! I've never even heard of it, sounds awesome (or at least as awesome as any Thompson-inspired work can be, even the original is trying most of the time)
ReplyDeleteI'll be googling it during the RAW thread after I work out for sure. I actually quite liked Eric S. back in what geologists are now calling "The Day".
The 1991 ending was not planned. They ended it on the fly due to Pillman's injury.
ReplyDeleteOk that makes more sense because Pillman is fucking DEAD from that first powerbomb where Sid basically drops him directly on the base of his neck.
ReplyDeleteOk, I cant' hold that against them, hopefully 92 has a satisfying ending then.
Found it, in a FLEA article no less (whatever happened to THAT guy?!) from IP:
ReplyDeletehttp://wrestling.insidepulse.com/2002/10/26/804/
It's about halfway down the page (or just use the Ctrl+F feature in Firefox)
Yeah, I think the "Fingerpoke" is seen more as a symbolic moment than anything. Late 1998 in general was just a mess though, I actually think things improved a bit on TV in early 1999.
ReplyDeleteWas Shane Douglas a legit wrestler?
ReplyDeleteI don't even care that Punk would put likely put him over. Like Scott has said a few times, it does nothing for anyone to have someone besides Cena as the champ if Cena's going to unquestionably be the top guy. Cena's matches with Johnny and Show should've been given "special attraction" status instead of being the focal point, with Punk/Bryan being last, but it's too late for that now.
ReplyDeleteThat would be terrific.
ReplyDeleteI hope you're right, but....it's gonna happen. Probably not this year, maybe not next year, but it will happen. Everyone turns heel eventually. Hogan did, Austin did, Rocky did, hell, even Sting did. Everyone turns heel.
ReplyDeleteYeah 1992 has easily the best ending IMO, so I think you'll like it.
ReplyDeleteOh so wonderful. Though he wasn't half hard enough on that sandy-cunted sycophant Botter.
ReplyDeleteI always loved that tag-line -- "the Marietta Massacre"
ReplyDeleteOk so 1992 was certainly better than the other two I watched. Steve Austin is, as usual, a fucking wrestling machine and Arn brings the enormous balls he brings to everything.
ReplyDeleteIt's just so weird that the ended it with an armbar, although at least this ending had the backstory of the heels always trying to disassemble the ring and it coming back to bite them.
I think what the concept is really missing is the tap out. If they had had the tap out back then at least visually it would make more sense as far as the match ending so suddenly because you'd *see* it ending.
I have to go watch a bunch of Dangerous Alliance stuff now.
What's even funnier was that Warrior sustained two injuries from doing all of that.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, LMAO
ReplyDeleteThat's true, the tap-out always made submissions seem much cooler.
ReplyDeletePeople are STILL swallowing the baloney about the '91 WarGames finish being "improvised"? Short answer: no, it frigging wasn't. What happened was exactly what was booked, blown power bomb notwithstanding.
ReplyDeleteWhat I absolutely love about this promo is 5:50 or so, where the crowd erupts, Dusty puts up his hand and *they all sit down*. He had them that much in the palm of his hand. What a promo guy.
ReplyDeleteBecause my previous reply is getting sandwiched, I want to add this here:
ReplyDeleteThe '91 WarGames with the two Sid power bombs (one particularly nasty-looking) ended EXACTLY as it was booked. No "improvisation" took place. To wit:
1.) Two seconds after the second power bomb, El Gigante comes running out still in his ring gear. Why would he still be wearing his gear at the end of the show if he wasn't booked to make an appearance?
2.) Gigante ripping the cage door open was clearly a pre-planned spot.
3.) If Pillman were really injured that badly, you don't have Gigante or somebody else CARRY HIM OUT. You clear everybody out of the way and put a damned neckbrace on him and carry him out immobilized on a stretcher.
4.) Pillman getting injured completely fit into the full-length story of the match--Pillman was injured going into the match but was too brave and gutsy for his own good. That story was pounded into our heads from the opening moments when Pillman, with his shoulder taped up, breaks away from the babyface team huddle to start things off.
5.) Why on earth would you change who went over in a PPV main event just because Pillman got hurt? Larry Zbyszko was barely a regular on the WCW roster at this point and was only in the match as a sub for Arn Anderson. Clear space for Pillman, put Larry in the scorpion deathlock, and end it right there.
In short: WarGames '91 came off as planned. So did Shawn/Mankind at Mind Games. These supposed PPV main events where finishes got changed on the fly plain and simply don't exist.
You may be right. Your point that El Gigante carried him out especially: no way you do that with a neck injury. I didn't remember that part. My mistake.
ReplyDeleteBut 'Sid botching a move and almost killing someone by mistake' is plausible every time that moron stepped in the ring.
I had to pop in the Pillman DVD to watch Wargames 91' as I'm typing this and damn it is a classic. All 8 guys in there in their prime. Sting-Flair/Horsemen feud was definitely the best positive thing WCW/NWA ever did. And don't forget the ramp! The WCW ppv ramp rocked!
ReplyDeleteBut yeah the 92' Wargames is better. The ending with Rude taking off the turnbuckle screw and smashing people was inventive
And the two rings really made the differance. Made lots of room for battles. Whereas Lethal Lockdon is always cluttered in 1 ring and all those matches blend together...every Wargames match was unique
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