The SmarK Retro Rant for WCW Road Wild 99
- This is a somewhat historic rant, if only because it marks the only remaining WCW PPV that I've never done before. No real reason for never doing it before - I was just pretty drunk during the original airing and never got into the mood to do a formal rant afterwards. (With the main event we got, can you blame me?)
- Note to Andy: It was the same music because it's public domain and anyone can use it without paying royalties.
- Live from Sturgis, SD
- Your hosts are Tony, Bobby & Mike.
- Opening match: Vampiro & The Insane Clown Posse v. Kidman, Rey Mysterio & Eddy Guerrero.
This was the payoff match for the endless undercard feud between the ICP & the luchadors that was supposed to lead to Shaggy 2 Dope winning the Cruiserweight title at one point. (Because OF COURSE IT FUCKING WAS. The ICP are at least decent enough workers within their own little genre, but JESUS FUCK, WCW.) Kidman hammers on Vampiro to start and gets a Rydien Bomb, and Eddy springboards in with a senton, and Rey springboards in with a legdrop. Vamp gets tossed, and back in Eddy hits him with a leg lariat and monkey- flip, but Vamp comes back with a spinkick and chops away. Eddy ends up on the floor and gets beaten down by the ICP, and he's YOUR Vanilla Midget In Peril. Violent J gets a clothesline and pounds away, and Shaggy suplexes him. Why do the announcers always cite people talking "at the airport" about the main event as though that's the universal signal of fan acceptance? Is there some giant water cooler at every airport in the country where wrestling fans gather just to talk about the latest Kevin Nash main event? (Remember, this was a stupid cliché even back in 99, and Kevin Nash is STILL talking about the mythical airports today!) Eddy gets his springboard armdrag, but the ICP cuts off the tag and keep him in the corner. Vamp chokeslams him for two. Small note: Outdoor shows make for terrible ring-lighting, which is why only WCW was dumb enough to do them on PPV. ICP gets a double-suplex, but when Shaggy goes up, Eddy makes the comeback and crotches him to set up a superplex. Hot tag Rey, and he hits J with a quebrada for two. Raven pulls him out of the ring on the 619 (or least the move would become the 619), and Vampiro gets a Michinoku Driver on the floor to turn the tide again, and Rey gets to play punching bag for a while. Back in, Violent J gets a sideslam for two. He stomps away and drops an elbow for two. Kneecrusher and Vampiro comes in for a release powerbomb and goes after the knee. Shaggy powerslams him for two. Shaggy gets a lariat, but doesn't go for the pin and opts to charge into the corner instead. That's some pretty counterproductive strategy. Hot tag Kidman and it's BONZO GONZO as the heels bail, leaving Shaggy alone with the faces. Vamp hits his own man, and Kidman finishes Shaggy with the SSP at 12:20. This was solid but wasn't anything more than the absolute minimum formula needed. ***
- WCW World tag title: Bam Bam Bigelow & Kanyon v. Harlem Heat.
This was during the Jersey Triad angle that went on for months and saw Benoit do the job like 300 times to DDP. Here's WCW logic: Book a couple of big black guys as babyfaces at a BIKER RALLY in South Dakota. Talk about fundamentally misunderstanding your audience. Big brawl to start and Kanyon gets dumped by Stevie, and Bigelow is double-teamed out of the ring as a result. Back in, Kanyon hammers on Stevie in the corner, but gets press-slammed and bails. Back in, Booker works the arm but gets elbowdropped and choked. Kanyon overpowers him, but Booker sidekicks him for two. Next up, the Bigelow-Stevie Ray showdown that could have sold out this PPV ALONE! Stalling begins that war, just like all the great ones. Heck, everyone remembers learning in school about Hitler pointing to a kid in the front row of a rally and yelling "Shut up, fat boy!" before launching his blitzkriegs. (Maybe if the kid was Jewish.) Stevie gets caught in the corner and Kanyon innovates offense by dropping like 10 elbows in a row and doing more choking. The Triad gets a series of corner clotheslines, and Bigelow hits the chinlock. That gets two. Kanyon uses the ropes for two. Stevie fights back, but misses an elbow. Stevie slingshots Kanyon into Bigelow to come back, hot tag Booker. Forearm for Kanyon! Spinkick for Kanyon gets two! Bigelow stops the axe kick by pulling down the top rope while Tenay analyzes the difference between doing the move in a singles match and a tag match. It astounds me that Tenay can make something so fundamentally stupid sound like someone actually put thought into it. Back in, Kanyon rides Booker down with a legdrop for two. Booker tags Stevie again, however, and he hammers away on the heels. DDP runs in to direct traffic, but heel miscommunication results in a missile dropkick that ends it at 13:08 to give the Heat their 8th tag title. Their epic reign would last for a week, at which point they lost it to the awesome duo of the Windham brothers, possibly in order to finance Barry's buffet-crawls. *1/2
- Perry Saturn, Dean Malenko & Shane Douglas v. Curt Hennig, Barry Windham and Bobby Duncam Jr..
Speaking of the West Texas Rednecks, booking a bunch of racist cowboys as heels at a biker rally...more brilliance. You couldn't come up with more efficient ways to lose millions of dollars than this company did. (You could then book the heel cowboys against babyface black rappers in the deep South…oh wait, they did that one too.) Saturn, Douglas, Malenko and Benoit were "The Revolution", and the idea was that they were the young guns looking for their shot at the top to overthrow the old main eventers. They were of course immediately buried in their first appearance and were the first ones to leave the promotion in 2000 when given the chance. I love shoot comments that aren't meant to be shoot comments. Malenko and Barry start, and Dean hammers away and gets a corner clothesline. Saturn works a headlock on Windham as Heenan calls Bobby Duncam Jr an established star and maintains a straight face somehow. He would be dead from drug-related causes soon after. (Man, how many times in my life am I going to have to type that sentence? We’re already at four dead people on this show.) Bobby hits Shane with a big boot, but gets powerslammed. Saturn fires away with kicks in the corner, but gets stomped down by Duncam. Windham comes back in, but gets suplexed (barely - it was like suplexing Shamu the Whale for poor Saturn at this point) until a cheapshot turns the tide. Hennig necksnaps Saturn and Duncam works him over for two. Saturn gets a quick german suplex and brings Dean in for a dropkick (called a suplex by Tony), and the Revolution does some double-teaming in the corner. Shane's fisherman's buster is cut off by the heels, and he gets pounded outside. He crotches Hennig on the post, however, but gets slammed trying to come into the ring via the top rope. Barry suplexes him for two. Clothesline gets two. Duncam gets a shoulderbreaker for two. Suplex gets two. Bobby hits the chinlock, and Windham DDTs him for two. Collision puts both guys down, but Bobby Duncam comes back in for a charge that misses. Hot tag Saturn, not that anyone cares, but Windham clubs him down. Malenko gets the Cloverleaf on Hennig, but Kendall nails him with the cowbell. Saturn hits Duncam with the Death Valley Driver for the pin at 10:55. Well there's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back. **
- The Cat v. Buff Bagwell.
In a strange way, I almost miss Ernest Miller, especially once he found his niche as a babyface while WCW was disintegrating. (I’m thinking this was written before he came back in WWE and I realized that I didn’t miss him after all.) We get the world's longest stallfest to start, and Miller gets a hiptoss and celebrates. Well, he's already one up on Bagwell in terms of skill. The crowd chants "Pussycat", which is one of the wittier dirty chants I've heard. Bagwell comes back with his dizzying array of bodyslam variations and dance moves, and Cat bails. Stalling out the yin-yang follows, and Miller chokes away in the corner. Bagwell comes back with two dropkicks, and Miller goes low to stop that rally. Superkick, more stalling. Sense a pattern? Sonny Onoo chokes out Bagwell, and Buff can't even be bothered to sell. Miller does his own choking and kicks him down again. More stalling follows, and more choking. We hit the chinlock, but Buff gets a suplex. Onoo tries using the briefcase to turn the tide, but Miller runs into it and Buff gets the pin at 7:22. Oh yeah, this sucked. DUD (Was Bagwell a babyface at this point?)
- US title match: Chris Benoit v. DDP.
This is no-DQ, and Benoit hammers away to start and baseball slides a retreating Page. Page sends him into the railing a couple of times and they head back in. Page gets a belly-to-belly for two. Page goes to a rear chinlock and faceplants him out of a fireman's carry for two. Gutbuster and choking follows. Benoit cradles for two, but Page reverses to his own cradle for two, and a lariat puts Benoit down again. Spinebuster gets two. They fight over a pinfall, which Benoit turns into a sunset flip for two. Page lays him out again with a lariat for two. Page slowly pounds away and gets a sideslam for two. Benoit reverses a slam into a jawbreaker, but goes up too soon and gets crotched by DDP. Page hangs him in the Tree of Woe and then steals the ref's belt for some whipping action. When Benoit escapes, Page opts for choking with the belt instead. That gets two. Page gives him a Hangman with the belt, but Benoit flips out of it and whips Page back with the belt. German suplex gets two. Another one gets two. He won't let go, and gets a third one for two. To the top, but Kanyon runs out and pushes him into a Rock Bottom that gets two. Benoit whips DDP into Kanyon for two. Page clotheslines him again for two. Bigelow now runs in and hits Benoit with a flying splash for two. Page whips Bigelow at Benoit, but it misses and Bigelow ends up headbutting Page low. Flying headbutt finishes Page at 12:14. The idea was to show that Benoit could beat the Triad by himself and stand on his own as champion, but Sid squashed him a month later to win the title. *** (To give Benoit the rub, you see.)
- Sid v. Sting.
Speaking of Sid, WCW was once again gamely trying to make him into a monster heel by having him go over everyone in the promotion on his "Millennium Man" tour. The end result of this was months of WCW World champion Sid Vicious in 2000 before Russo & Bischoff sent him packing in April. Sting overpowers Sid and sends him out of the ring with a Stinger splash, and they brawl out. That goes nowhere, so we head back in, where Sting misses another splash attempt and Sid kicks him down. Tenay notes the Sid not only can beat you with the chokeslam, but with the powerbomb as well. Wow, what a repertoire. Because it's not like those aren't basically the same move anyway. Sid continues to demonstrate his vast knowledge of technical wrestling by choking on the ropes. Backbreaker gets two. We hit the chinlock, as Sting was probably looking to be saved by Jesus from wrestling this shitty match for much longer. For some it's alcohol, for others it's Sid Vicious. Clothesline and Sid stalls. We hit the chinlock. Sid goes up and gets slammed off, but Sting's splash hits knee and Sid gets two. Sting makes the comeback with a superplex and a pair of Stinger splashes, but a third one misses and the chokeslam finishes at 10:39. Usual yawner from Sid. *1/2 (But at least his kid is a pretty awesome Big Brother player.)
- Rick Steiner v. Goldberg.
Speaking of dumb mistakes, this was during the period when, in order to promote the doomed "Mayhem" album, they replaced Goldberg's trademark theme music with Megadeth's flop "Crush 'Em". Slugfest to start, and Goldberg gets a clothesline and they collide. You know, given a bit of forethought, they could have played up on the real- life tough-guy reps of both guys and built this NJPW-like into a "shoot fight", rather than a midcard squash for Goldberg. Goldberg's Bret-Killer Kick sends Steiner bailing (sadly not with a career-ending concussion), but Rick goes low to come back. Steiner uses the knee brace as a weapon and chokes him out with it. An elbowdrop keeps up the frantic pace, but Goldberg comes back with the snap powerslam, spear and Jackhammer at 5:39. Waste of PPV time. 1/2*
- Randy Savage v. Dennis Rodman.
This is a hardcore match in order to disguise the obvious limitations of both guys. After some trash-talking, they fight out right away and Savage meets the steel pole. Back in, Rodman gets an elbow and a short-arm clothesline while Tenay & Tony shove each other aside in order to declare Rodman the next superstar of wrestling. Legsweep gets two, which Tony marvels at. WOW! A RUSSIAN LEGSWEEP! And he's not even Russian! The ref gets in Rodman's face and gets wiped out as a result. Another ref joins us as Savage goes to the eyes to come back and chokes away. Savage drops him on the top rope in a bad spot, and beats up Ross Forman in order to work a camera into the match. That gets two. Another ref bites the dust as a result of issues with the count, as does a third ref. They head outside while the innocent victims of Savage stand around holding their heads in an awesome show of selling prowess. The way Ross Forman was holding his head like that really made the match for me. They head up the rampway, where Rodman gets a hiptoss that sends Savage down the ramp and into the garbage. Savage tosses some poor guy out of a Porta- Potty, and Rodman takes his place. Talk about your cruel and unusual. Back to ringside, Savage hits that steel pole again and they head back into the ring. Rodman goes up and wipes out the referee in a horrible spot, as Gorgeous George joins us and gives Savage a chain. She goes low on Rodman, and Savage gets the pin at 11:30. Amazingly, people at the time praised this match due to the toilet spot and because Rodman did a couple of clotheslines. Time has not been kind to it, trust me. 1/2*
- WCW World title, career v. career: Hulk Hogan v. Kevin Nash.
To this day I don't get the booking for this feud - Nash loses the title as a babyface to Savage, Hogan wins it the next night as heel, turns face, and then faces Nash for the title. Why not just keep the belt on Nash, turn him heel, and have him lose the title to Hogan so that Hulk's big return to the yellow and red underwear means something? Nash wins Hogan's trademark LOCKUP OF DOOM spot to start, but Hogan comes back and triumphs. ****1/2! Oh, sorry, just thought I was one of the people over-rating Hogan-Rock there for a second. (Aha, so this was written in 2002.) Nash works a gruelling headlock, somehow surviving the shine from Hogan's bald head, but Hogan suplexes out of it and Nash bails. I hear that Nash is going to join the Tony Hawk extreme sports scene with his own videogame: Kevin Nash's Pro Drinker. Okay, I stole that one from an e-mail forward, but it's still funny. They do the test of strength as Bobby calls them the biggest draws in this sport in front of an unpaid crowd of like 5000 people and a buyrate of 0.5. Wow, zero dollars, that's quite a draw. (In fact WCW was losing millions of dollars at that point, so Nash was ACTUALLY drawing NEGATIVE money.) Nash does his usual stuff and Hogan fights back with punches. Nash gets his own punches and Hogan is down again. Sideslam gets two. "Nothing in a hurry about Nash" notes Tony. Yup. He gets his running chokes and pounds away in the corner. Big boot and Poochiebomb get two, and you can guess the rest from there. Hogan retains at 12:15 with the usual. 1/4* Nash's retirement lasted like 3 months.
The Bottom Line:
This show got mediocre-positive reviews at the time because of the terrible run the company was on under Nash's booking regime, but years later it just looks like the usual WCW crap, especially given the power changeover just a couple of months later that killed any goodwill they had been building up. There's a good Benoit match, but that's like saying that the sun coming up is notable. As much as I enjoy Nash doing the job to put over new talent like that Hogan youngster, the rest is just throwaway crap.
Recommendation to avoid.
This PPV sucked. I remember laughing at Schiavone trying to sell Rodman as a great wrestler and I found that funny.
ReplyDeleteGood god I bought this show 15 years ago, I don't know what money was burning a hole in my pocket that $30 on Hogan/Nash and Rodman/Savage seemed like a good idea.
ReplyDeleteI bought Fall Brawl the next month too, but that was more to see what would happen on a pay-per-view literally 48 hours after the man in charge (Bischoff) was fired.
I love the Kevin Nash drawing negative money line lol.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of a like Louis Ck's old show Lucky Louie "We've got negative $50 in checking, so we'll have raise $50 to be broke"
I skipped this one at the time as well, although I too ordered Fall Brawl 1999, as well as Souled Out 2000 where it really hit the fan backstage and I just wanted to see what happened with the Benoit situation. That's the last WCW PPV I ordered, I believe, although I watched some 2000s PPVs on a black box at a friends house.
One thing I don't get though Scott, why are you ripping on the lighting of outdoor shows? I don't remember if this show was lit darker than the other outdoor PPVs, but the previous two Road Wild/Hog Wilds had a nice bright ring and such. I love the effect of the sun going down in the background, reminds me of Summer Slam 1992 during the Warrior/Savage entrances when the sky is almost as beautiful and brightly contrasted as their tights.
They did that every time he wrestled. Guy would do a hiptoss or something and they'd all freak out. "OMG HE HIT THE ARMDRAG" like it was a finisher or something.
ReplyDeleteThe culture shock joke is funny, but Harlem Heat were more over in that match than the Triad. Booker was one of the most over guys on the show.
ReplyDeleteThat's really the 'formula' for these types of matches though, although I think you can only really pull it off once with the same guy before it looks dumb -- the whole idea is to get the guy over as competitive but not dominating. It's not any different than Vince freaking out over LT being able to throw a forearm or climb the ropes.
ReplyDeleteI thought it worked the first time at BATB 1997. After that it was a mess, because Rodman didn't get any better. In fact, he got worse, showing up more than a little intoxicated for the big 1998 BATB match.
Yeah, watching a bunch of drunken redneck bikers "raise the roof" was truly odd.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, this is the last biker really PPV. Unfortunately, the PPV that replaced it in 2000 (New Blood Rising) was even worse.
ReplyDelete"Stalling begins that war, just like all the great ones. Heck, everyone remembers learning in school about Hitler pointing to a kid in the front row of a rally and yelling "Shut up, fat boy!" before launching his blitzkriegs."
ReplyDeleteYou forgot the part about how Hitler told the fat boy how he was going to take his wife and make a woman out of her.
"We’re already at four dead people on this show."
Actually make that 5 as of that line, and 7 overall.
"Was Bagwell a babyface at this point?"
Yes, he was, from Spring of 99 till the rest of the year.
"Goldberg's Bret-Killer Kick sends Steiner bailing (sadly not with a career-ending concussion)"
You know, I usually don't like wishing ill will upon people. But if there's one arrogant piece of shit who deserved Bret Hart's fate, it's the dog faced nepotist.
"I hear that Nash is going to join the Tony Hawk extreme sports scene with his own videogame: Kevin Nash's Pro Drinker. Okay, I stole that one from an e-mail forward, but it's still funny."
I thought that was Scott Hall's video game?
Yeah did all the Klan bikers stay home that day or something? All joking aside the Sturgis crowd was always weird. Didn't they boo Hogan out of the building in 1997 after treating him like the Second Coming in 96?
ReplyDeleteRemember when they had "Arliss" on TV around this time? I remember him shouting "Pay-Per-View! Pay-Per-View!" when Rodman and Savage 1st crossed paths.
ReplyDeleteOh man, that was one shitty PPV.
ReplyDeleteDid you ever read the theory about how all tv shows are actually a figment of a kid's imagination because they can all be traced backed to St. Elsewhere? I used that once to get to Arliss and thus prove WCW and WWE are in fact not real and take place in a boy's imagination.
ReplyDeleteI don't have a degree in business, but in all honesty, even with Ted Turner's money and backing, who honestly thought holding a PPV for a free live crowd was a good idea (besides Eric Bischoff)?
ReplyDeleteIt was pretty stupid to buy a PPV from 13 years ago 15 years ago. You must have really been pumped for it.
ReplyDeleteWatching Hogan go back to his cliche 1980's babyface routine so soon after being heel Hollywood for the last 3 years was so incredibly nauseating. Especially with Tony and Bobby being all 'The power of Hulkamania! Who can beat this man?' etc. on commentary. Not to mention the embarrassing Career vs Career stip that no one believed.
ReplyDeleteI don't even think Bischoff thought they were a good idea. He just wanted an excuse to go to the Sturgis rally every year.
ReplyDeleteThe commentary during the Goldberg/Nash/Steiner three-way match was somehow even worse than the verbal blowjobs Tony and Co. kept giving Dennis Rodman.
ReplyDeleteThe crowd was indeed better than the biker morons although WCW still showed they didn't know their audience by booking two Canadians as heels in Canada.
With the way WWE is booked nowadays, it definitely feels like a kid's imagination.
ReplyDeleteI still think Sid's Millennium Man gimmick was gold.
ReplyDeleteWell, I suppose it makes more sense to do it for a PPV than for a TV show, at least when things are good. You'll actually make some money on the PPV buys.
ReplyDeleteThey didn't do much better with Mayhem in Toronto (I was there), booking multiple run-ins during the Bret-Benoit tourney final/main event, including The Outsiders attacking the ref for no reason and then Goldberg brawling with them all the way to the back. That match had no trouble getting over on it's own, especially in Canada. And having Evan Karagis winning the CW title was a bad move in front of any crowd, as evidenced by the cheers when I nailed him in the back of the head with a water bottle as he walked back to the locker room.
ReplyDeleteThose weren't the only times they did that. BATB 95 was done right on the beach in front of a non-paying crowd, and I'd assume that the Nitros from Universal Studios and Club La Vey were free too. And even the regular shows were so full of comped fans that they might as well have been free, I went to nearly every WCW show that came to Buffalo, and I don't think I had to pay for any of them.
ReplyDeletemaybe they finally realized he wasn't a "good guy" anymore?
ReplyDeleteRick Steiner has REALLY had his named dragged through the mud over the years, much like his brother. I know he was generally unprofessional and a bullying dick (taking liberties with many an opponent), but does he get hated on from within the business, too?
ReplyDeleteI think it says something that WCW failed with a Hulkamania Nostalgia Push, but the WWF effortlessly made it a big deal. Granted, both ended badly (Hulk tanked business as the World Champ in both).
ReplyDeleteWhereas in 1999, if you think, you can win against fresh and cool main eventers like Austin, Rock, Mankind and HHH with the old stale Hulkamania gimmick... you've already lost.
ReplyDeleteIn 2002, there was no real "cool" competition to the WWF, so the risk was not that big. However, I think if they wouldn't had turned Hogan face and continued with him and the nWo after WM leading to a big Austin vs Hogan ME at Summer Slam...
Yeah, ANDY.
ReplyDeleteWell I think part of it was just that it was too soon for that sort of nostalgia run, but I think the other part was that people didn't really want to see Hulkamania, they wanted Hulkamania in the WWF.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I don't think Bischoff was even trying anymore by that point, he was letting Nash book and keeping the old guys happy while they played politics all day. Michaels gave an interview around then stating Nash was miserable and ready to jump as soon as his contract was up and I totally believe that -- and this is the guy who you want booking the shows?
Most of the heat I've heard on Rick was because he was smart enough to invest when WCW was overpaying him so when most of his contemporaries went broke or squandered their money, he never has to work another day in his life.
ReplyDeleteYeah I don't think anyone was paying for WCW after 1998 or so. The way we used to get tickets when we didn't "know somebody" was just hang around outside the building until someone would walk up to us and say "hey you guys want in?"
ReplyDeleteThe funny part is that some people would say no.
I never figured out if they were holding out to actually get paid to watch WCW or if they were just randomly standing outside for no apparent reason.
I attended the Nitro that was at the Van Andel Arena in Grand Rapids, Michigan in May 2000 during my brief and not-so-great 8 month stay in Michigan. Ticket sales were so bad that I was able to get a free fourth row ticket without a problem. Not only that but there was a scalper outside the arena selling super cheap $5 tickets (good seats too) for Thunder in Saginaw the next day. I turned it down because after my experience at the Kevin Nash Thunder in October '99 (aka Nash's final show as booker about two months before I made the ill-fated move to Michigan), I had decided to never go to a Thunder taping again. That's not even taking into account the horrible Nitro that I and about 3,000 other poor souls had just endured.
ReplyDeleteIf it were a kid's imagination it would make about as much sense but would probably be more fun. At least if it was like Axe Cop. Turning John Cena in to a dinosaur soldier for no reason would definitely freshen up his character.
ReplyDeleteThat's a little bit of an overstatement (the first part, not the rest) as they still did strong advances and gates through the middle of 1999, doing some of their strongest business as a company in terms of gates and advances between Starrcade and Uncensored. Things fell off fast in the summer though. By 2000 their shows were getting ridiculous though, sometimes giving away more tickets than they sold.
ReplyDeleteI just watched him and the Nasty Boys during a local indy show. It was.....distressing.
ReplyDeleteNo Luger? No wonder you didn't recommend it.
ReplyDeleteMan I'm SO glad I never got around to wasting my time by checking out this show, and I'm sorry for those that wasted their time also, especially if you paid for in any form (PPV, buying and/or renting the home video, etc).
ReplyDeletePastamania wasn't going to promote itself damn it!
ReplyDeleteCurious, how was it distressing? (I literally haven't seen Rick Steiner in years).
ReplyDelete"We’re already at four dead people on this show."Count again, Scott. We were up to five at that point.
ReplyDeleteEddie GuerreroBam Bam Bigalow
Kanyon
Curt Hennig
Bobby Duncam Jr.
Benoit and Savage make it seven overall for this show. Yikes.
I think it would have been more effective had the idiot announcers not acted like when he laid guys out and didn't even pin him that they counted as victories. The announcers playing along killed the act.
ReplyDeleteTrue, that angle really needed a disgusted JR to really put over the bogus streak.
ReplyDeleteIt's always fun to see Sid powerbomb dudes.
ReplyDeleteAnybody ever tasted Hulkaroos?
ReplyDeleteSo sue me, but I actually like the Rodman/Savage match. It's a riot, like most things WCW 1999. Very fun to watch these old PPVs, especially now that the company is dead and gone. And I paid .50 for the tapes at a video rental store. I got most of '98 and '99 (even some from '96, which I sold for a tidy profit online years ago), and even some of the 2000 debacles.
ReplyDeleteThe problem was that it was no longer Turner's money. It was time warner/AOl's money, and that's was got wcw shut down. Turner didn't give a shit, he was loyal for how wrestling was a corner stone of tbs for 25 years at point.
ReplyDeleteHard to believe I paid for this. This was the last WCW PPV I bought and for the life of me, looking at this card, I can't figure out why. I know I was barely watching over the summer after the Hogan face turn. My brother and I must have been really bored.
ReplyDeleteSo he's smart with money, fine. But what does THAT have to do with him being an unprofessional ass, and not selling when he should?
ReplyDeleteSure we all gave Undertaker shit, when he did that stuff to, but at least his name still had some value to the wrestling world. No one gave a shit about Rick Steiner in 1999.
I think 9/11 had a lot to do with people embracing Hogan. They wanted the happy nostalgia of a bygone era rather than the uncertainty that was going on.
ReplyDeletethat sounds like a Kangaroo meat dish
ReplyDeleteha I love the Lucky Louie reference. That show was underrated; but its demise brought us the far superior Louie so all is well. Just stinks that people assume Lucky Louie was garbage.
ReplyDeleteHe looked like he was in agony even throwing steinerlines. Hell, he was grimacing stepping through the ropes.
ReplyDeleteGranted, they were all Very drunk.
Is there another rant of this show where Scott compares watching the show to being at Camp Krusty? Or is that another 1999 WCW PPV?
ReplyDeleteSeconded. I wish he could have done a few more seasons of Lucky Louie before the current show. I think a lot of people thought he was dissing Lucky Louie during the Dane Cook episode last year when they showed him walking off the set of a shitty sitcom, but that was supposed to be his failed CBS sitcom Saint Louie. It confused people because the kitchen set looked like the one from Lucky Louie.
ReplyDeleteHuge Louis C.K. geek over here.
Tony Hawk's Pro Drinker? An interactive drinking game where you can trick your player out in Hurley and Zero gear and get loaded while listening to classic punk, hip hop, and hardcore? Fucking hell would I ever be there.
ReplyDeleteI know he did that, with 'Benoit is coming' being his mantra but I can't remember offhand what PPV is was for.
ReplyDeleteI loved Lucky Louie, I think I enjoyed it more than I do Louie to be honest, which is also a very good show. I was very surprised at the critical backlash to that show, I thought it was one of the best shows to come around in a long, long time.
ReplyDeleteThe Steiners were both really, REALLY beat up from years of those hard-hitting matches in Japan, so I don't doubt he's a walking pile of scar tissue. Just look at the state that Scott is in now, and he wasn't half as stiff as Rick used to work during their prime.
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