Where does the phrase "let's wait and see what happens / where it goes" come from? I've seen it a lot lately. Did I miss a quote from Vince or something?
Brian
No, the quote from Vince was "We're telling stories." The "let it play out and see where it goes" thing was kind of the overwhelming battle cry of the "anti-smarks" on my blog and others, in response to everyone complaining about how things didn't pay off the way they wanted. Specifically, it was in reference to the CM Punk v. Kevin Nash feud going on after Summerslam 2011, which everyone assumed was headed towards an endgame that made sense. And of course, it did not. But people continually dismissing criticisms of the whole stupid thing with "Well, just let it play out and see where it goes before you make any judgments!" got to be kind of a meme.
The "telling stories" thing has always bothered me... because it's what they've believed in forever. JR was saying it in the old Ross Reports weekly. Something along the lines of, "we're in the business of telling stories." So to mock them for something they've admitted is their goal for the past 15 years or so seems asinine.
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ReplyDeleteI was there for the birth of "lets see where it goes", but what's "I find your views intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter." all about
ReplyDeleteI believe that Vince said pretty much the same thing in Beyond The Mat.
ReplyDeleteAnd Punk vs Nash did have an endgame that made sense, that never got to be implented due to Nash's health issues. You can argue that WWE should have seen that coming, but that's besides the point: all of us fantasy book in a fantasy world where nothing ever goes wrong, whereas WWE has to work in a fluid situation with things happening that forces a change in plans all of the time (the majority of which I'll bet the IWC doesn't learn about until years later, if ever)
Snarking on the product is a fun hobby, but if any of us were put in a real life situation of controlling WWE for a year, I doubt our results would be much better.
Ask your ass.
ReplyDeleteRvd and the whole "one shot deal" was pretty funny only cuz he showed up at royal rumble for a one shot deal.
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ReplyDeleteZanadude, what is with this unhealthy obsession you have with my ass.
ReplyDeleteI remember the "let it play out and see where it goes" being more in terms of HHH fucking up Punk's momentum and it would play out that Punk never getting a moral victory over Nash OR HHH let alone a victory in a match--and that booking shitstorm was their own fault. Think about this, Nash screwed over Punk so HHH could win-but don't worry, HHH got his revenge
ReplyDeleteIt's more mocking them because lately their stories either aren't good, or start good but get bungled along the way.
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ReplyDeleteI thought "let's play this out and see where it goes" was about Zach Rider getting killed by Kane weekly.
ReplyDeleteYes! It was that and then the outcome of the cena Brock match. Brock should have won but people still defended the ending with "let's see where this goes" before judging it.
ReplyDelete"We're telling stories." If there were books written the way WWE tells stories, they'd never get published. If there were movies made that told stories the way WWE does, they'd be mocked and ridiculed in the same breath as The Room. If people told stories the way WWE does, we'd all be like Grampa Simpson.
ReplyDeleteTeamwork is overrated. Sharing too, and helping others. And what's all this crap I've been hearing about tolerance?
ReplyDeleteWaaaaaaay older than that.
ReplyDeleteI thought LIPOSWIG was due to Nexus... or Rock/Cena
ReplyDeleteIt all runs together
it wasnt funny on 411mania...
ReplyDeleteit was unfunny after about 3 days.
They would get published.
ReplyDeleteyeah, idk either
ReplyDeleteBy then it was basically a parody of the idea.
ReplyDeleteYeah, except they are unbelievably terrible at it.
ReplyDeleteI can't think of a fanbase that seems to hate the product more than wrestling fans.
ReplyDeleteOkay, many rap fans.
By what measure of success? Cause I personally preferred 2011 to 1999.
ReplyDeleteI think the true origin was the Matt Hardy vs Edge feud. Hardy kept getting emasculated, but Hardy was working the sheets saying that it was some epic 11 part storyline, and that we should all just wait and see what happens.
ReplyDeleteWe're still waiting.
I knew it involved Cena somehow, I remember seeing it A LOT around here during that time.
ReplyDeleteI always thought that the phrase was at least partly inspired by the South Park episode where the boys form their successful backyard wrestling league and Vince & Stephanie turn up to scout them with their opera glasses.
ReplyDeletePretty much all nerd oriented media.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that's why people mock them.
ReplyDeleteWell then it would make sense that it started with version 1.0.
ReplyDelete...there was an onion tied around my belt; because that was the style in those days...
ReplyDeleteImo they were just as bad then. Cena/eve/kane, "stick the winner big man", or the big jonny power struggle (real quick off the top of my head) sucked as much as any crap russo pumped out back in 1999.
ReplyDeleteThe injury excuse is 100% bullshit. Nash was healthy enough to job to huntor, who already beat punk.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the Nash/Punk endgame supposed to be?
ReplyDeleteRap fans need to go buy the new sean price album mic tyson. Nothing to hate there.
ReplyDeleteI like "we make movies" from Beyond the Mat. Even funnier the awkward seconds while Vince waits for the interviewer to set him up to say it.
ReplyDeleteHey now - nowhere did they state they tell GOOD stories.
ReplyDeleteThe whole Punk storyline was fantastic. Plus, Bryan winning the belt, the Ziggler/Ryder feud, tons of great parts of 2011. You remember the shitty stuff, but a lot of it was really good.
ReplyDeletePlus the matches were way better.
2011/2012 > 1999 for sure.
ReplyDeleteExact same comment. One gets six down votes, the other five up votes.
ReplyDeleteThe Blog of Doom is a very, very strange place.
It had become self parody by that point
ReplyDeleteYou're still net down one vote
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