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Herb Kunze

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Scott,

Whatever happened to Herb Kunze and his wrestling tidbits? I've been readings his archives and it seems that around 2002 they just stopped.
Given that Herb has a real career as a math professor and was pretty sick of wrestling even during the glory days, I can't imagine he lasted as a serious fan much past the death of WCW.  Maybe someday he'll drop me an e-mail and update me, I dunno.  

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  1. jvc113July 30, 2013 at 1:35 AM

    I used to love Herb. People would tell me wrestling was for idiots and I'd site him as an example that it was not. Dude got a Ph. D. in MATHATICS.

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  2. zanadudeJuly 30, 2013 at 1:44 AM

    He would be saddened to read that you site him instead of cite him.

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  3. Aric JohnsonJuly 30, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    The MATHATICS part though, he'd be cool with.

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  4. zanadudeJuly 30, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    He was filled in for Jeff Amdur as a timekeeper at Wrestlemania 2.

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  5. EricJuly 30, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Herb Kunze was a gigantic dork, but he was a gigantic dork who knew his shit, I'll give him that much.

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  6. Steven FerrariJuly 30, 2013 at 4:29 AM

    It's not like he's an English major...

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  7. AmericanWolves02July 30, 2013 at 5:12 AM

    Never heard of this guy but I found his tidbits archive and lost an hour reading through them. Pretty interesting reading stuff from 1990. I didn't even know they had internet back then!

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  8. placetobepodcastJuly 30, 2013 at 5:53 AM

    Same here...found that stuff a few years back and spent days sifting through them. Really cool to read rumors and inside news from that time frame. It is also funny watching Herb slowly lose his mind as a wrestling fan the Attitude Era was starting up.

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  9. jabronivilleJuly 30, 2013 at 6:00 AM

    GOD I loved the Tidbits column back in the day- I stayed up late in the college computer lab many a night reading old columns and looking back fondly on those days. He was into Japanese stuff before that was "cool", and liked all the "correct" wrestlers to like! In retrospect, maybe I should have spent more time studying, but c'est la vie...

    I still remember his description of the Lyger/some other guy series, discussing how in each match, they'd reverse the moves done in the prior match, showing how they were learning with each contest. Or how he discovered guys like Benoit years before anyone else had.

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  10. Mister_E_MahnJuly 30, 2013 at 6:05 AM

    I used to love reading Kunze, the guy took it so seriously.

    I imagine as a math man he's a pretty serious fellow all of the time.

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  11. Dougie2876July 30, 2013 at 6:13 AM

    Oh dear.

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  12. Dougie2876July 30, 2013 at 6:14 AM

    I imagine him being a much older version of Herb from WKRP. But with leather patches on lots of plaid blazers.

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  13. jvc113July 30, 2013 at 6:36 AM

    I fixed that (I thought before anyone could see.....)

    Shouldn't have been typing on my iPhone at 3am.

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  14. AverageJoeEverymanJuly 30, 2013 at 7:05 AM

    I also loved how in the earlier reports he would say that Lyger should be pronounced Ryger. Dont know if it was true or if he was just confused by asian accents. Fun reads now, but at the time a lot of it would be so frustrating just cause he hated so much stuff.

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  15. johntcoleJuly 30, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    Anyone remember hardcore WCW fan mdb? I never did get to read his reaction to the death of WCW, that must have been pretty painful for him.

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  16. arctichareJuly 30, 2013 at 7:19 AM

    You'd be serious too, if that asshole Mr. Glitch threatened to eat you every time you added something wrong.

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  17. BeardMoneyJuly 30, 2013 at 7:22 AM

    Is this where the Herb Kunze armbar comes from? Was he a wrestler who later became a writer or did he just have that much of a presence that a move was named after him? I always presumed the guy was an old-school shooter to have a submission move named after him. Or was it named by Jericho during the 1004 moves promo?

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  18. Rick RossJuly 30, 2013 at 7:48 AM

    I'm 99% sure this is the same Herb Kunze.

    http://www.uoguelph.ca/~hkunze/



    Canadian? Check
    Math Professor? Check
    Dorky looking? Check

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  19. zanadudeJuly 30, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    Herb was the guy who taught us that the pain of Big Bully Busick's Stump Puller came not from pulling his opponent's leg over his head, but from driving his erection into the back of his opponent's neck.

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  20. Patrick BurkeJuly 30, 2013 at 8:35 AM

    I thought he put up the cage.

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  21. Darryl StewartJuly 30, 2013 at 8:56 AM

    So maybe someone should send him an email and find out for sure?

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  22. The FujJuly 30, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    square one reference?

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  23. The FujJuly 30, 2013 at 9:00 AM

    can someone provide a link to his stuff?


    i dont know who he is.

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  24. The FujJuly 30, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    Male cameltoe? check.

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  25. zanadudeJuly 30, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    I think it's on CRZ's site.

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  26. JohnPetukaJuly 30, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    The only real memories I have of the guy were his infatuation with Torrie Wilson and his hatred of WWF. He was stuck in his ways and time passed him by because of it.

    Any idea about the other guys like...

    Mike Samuda (MiCasa)? Last I heard, he was in the midst of a real estate scandal
    Al Isaacs (Scoops)?
    Otto Hackman Heuer?
    Erik "NoSoul" Ashley (ScoopThis)?

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  27. Scott KeithJuly 30, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Hackman is still very much around and he keeps in touch on Twitter.

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  28. mccjim12July 30, 2013 at 9:32 AM

    www.rspwfaq.org/tidbits


    The tidbits archive (1990-02)

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  29. Patrick DaileyJuly 30, 2013 at 9:48 AM

    " The WWF recently taped a match featuring the Orient Express vs. Roddy
    Piper and Jesse Ventura. Yep, you read that right. You see, the footage
    from this match will be used in the pilot episode of "Tag Team," the
    wrestlers-turned-detectives series that both ABC and NBC are rumoured to
    be considering for their line-ups. For those interested, Jesse and Roddy
    won the match when Piper, having chased Fuji away from the ring, got a
    hot tag from a worked-over Jesse and cleared house."


    Did that ever see the light of day? I'd love to see it.

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  30. RyTheMurphJuly 30, 2013 at 10:00 AM

    ....aren't you some kind of teacher?

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  31. Doctor FunkopolisJuly 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkssIcU79_8

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  32. James M. FabianoJuly 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    Dude, he hated almost ANYTHING from North America. (ECW was another major target for him)



    I haven't checked in a while, is Rick Scaia still around?



    And not really a WATN? question, but what has happened to the DVDVR board?

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  33. James M. FabianoJuly 30, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    #AskGeorgeFrankly

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  34. James M. FabianoJuly 30, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    re: the 2nd paragraph...I wonder what he thought about what happened in 2007?

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  35. Your_Favourite_AssholeJuly 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    does he do a breakdown and tell you how much the tweet was worth?

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  36. Bill RayJuly 30, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    As I recall, Herb hated the Fujiwara armbar, so it was promptly renamed the Herb Kunze armbar just to fuck with him.

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  37. DarrenJuly 30, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Lol and you noticed that how exactly??????

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  38. jdg9July 30, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    I started reading his stuff around 91 or 92. At the time time, it was pretty amazing to have something that so openly discussed wrestling in kayfabe terms, and provided information about territories and Japan that you never got a chance to hear about otherwise (except from Apter mags).

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  39. jdg9July 30, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    Rick Scaia still runs a website (www.onlineonslaught.com).

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  40. TimeandtheRaniJuly 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    John Petrie. Probably the smartest guy ever to write about wrestling, especially at that time. No offense Scott. :)

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  41. Adam B.July 30, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    We didn't. It was Usenet; just text-only message boards. We were on rec.sport.pro-wrestling, and Herb did a great job compiling info from all the sheets.

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  42. Adam B.July 30, 2013 at 2:27 PM

    Samuda was acquitted: http://www.thelegaldescription.com/TLD/ArticlesTLD/Fla-attorney-acquitted-of-fraud-charges--45418.aspx


    WATN: John Petrie (Slobberknocker Central), the DDT Digest crew, Sean Shannon, Mike Jenkinson?

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  43. jabronivilleJuly 30, 2013 at 2:37 PM

    What's funny is that he would get annoyed EVERY TIME when Ross mispronounced "enzuigiri" as "onzigoori". Yet let it slide every time Japanese announcers said "Laria-TOOOOOOOOOH!" or called every suplex a "Brainbuster" (Hyatte: "is the Japanese brain in the ass or something?")

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  44. jabronivilleJuly 30, 2013 at 2:45 PM

    Yeah, he would talk every single week about how hot Torrie & Kimberly were. Dude LOVED fitness model-types apparently. But at the same point, he hated Sable for having too-big implants (he once referred to her as popping one and flying all over the arena) and being a horrible actress.

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  45. James M. FabianoJuly 30, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    OK so OO is still up.

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  46. The FujJuly 30, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    by looking at his package.


    i mean its right there.... and it looks like a cameltoe.


    Theres not a lot to look at. its a goofy lookin white guy on a rock on a beach.

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  47. Mister_E_MahnJuly 30, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    I've wondered about Petrie myself, I always enjoyed his stuff. Shannon is still very active online but not involved in wrestling at all.

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  48. Mister_E_MahnJuly 30, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Obscure. I dig it.

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  49. Mister_E_MahnJuly 30, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Isaacs is, I think, still doing stand up in New York. No involvement with wrestling that I know of.
    He had a website at one point but I'm too lazy to look if it's still up.

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  50. boogerJuly 30, 2013 at 5:26 PM

    What about old school rspw'er "Cactus" Jack Epstein.

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  51. zanadudeJuly 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    We need to have a reunion of the RSPW gang. If only there were a wrestling organization to host such an event, and a wrestler around to call us "internet fuckheads".

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  52. DarrenJuly 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM

    Lol thats funny.....hey - you owned it

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  53. The FujJuly 30, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEBhP0YjLrY

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  54. RyTheMurphJuly 30, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Someone should write a book about the history of the IWC/ smark community. Sean Shannon, Samuda, and Eric Szulzcewski alone would be entertaining.

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  55. ONITA100July 30, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Just read thru most of his 1991 tidbits. Funny hearing about these rumors that never happened (Shawn leaving WWF, Sid beating Hogan for the belt before WM8).

    Its funny because wrestling today is still the same with all the bullshit rumors. Also funny hearing him mention email and the such, being that the internet was so small then.

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