Greetings.
Today we're gonna double-stack the QOTD, to give you, the people, a treat.
First question comes from White Thunder, and he wants know about Stone Cold:
"White Thunder here, The discussion about wrestlers fitting into different eras really got me thinking about Stone Cold. What is his shelf life at this point? Is there still a window for Austin to come back and have one more match? Would he have to have a short run (similar to Jericho) to get back over first? Personally I felt the perfect opportunity would of been against CM Punk around the time of Wrestlemania 27 or during the SES phase. Evidently this never came to fruition even though it appeared that Punk wanted a match badly. I feel the window is closing very rapidly, what do you think?"
Honestly, I think Stone Cold's shelf-life is infinite. There will never be a wrestling fan who doesn't know who he is. He's in a constant state of being over, and could head-line any PPV without anyone batting an eye.
Punk could always go back to the SES thing, and I definetly think that would be the best way to go about it. Punk simply doing his "I'm the best in the World, I want respect, I'll beat you to get it" is fine, but not nearly as great as Punk getting on Stone Cold for his drinking and such. I honestly think the feud would be hotter than Cena vs Rock.
The second question comes from Monte:
"What was the best interview segment of all time?
The Brother Love Show? Piper's Pit? The Funeral Parlor? The Heartbreak Hotel? One of the many, many others?"
I have to give it to the Highlight Reel. Jericho was always entertaining, and it had some pretty big moments; John Cena to Raw, bashing Shawn's face into the Jeritron. I'm of course being bias because Jericho is my all time favorite, but that's what being a wrestling fan is all about; being bias.
How say you?
Today we're gonna double-stack the QOTD, to give you, the people, a treat.
First question comes from White Thunder, and he wants know about Stone Cold:
"White Thunder here, The discussion about wrestlers fitting into different eras really got me thinking about Stone Cold. What is his shelf life at this point? Is there still a window for Austin to come back and have one more match? Would he have to have a short run (similar to Jericho) to get back over first? Personally I felt the perfect opportunity would of been against CM Punk around the time of Wrestlemania 27 or during the SES phase. Evidently this never came to fruition even though it appeared that Punk wanted a match badly. I feel the window is closing very rapidly, what do you think?"
Honestly, I think Stone Cold's shelf-life is infinite. There will never be a wrestling fan who doesn't know who he is. He's in a constant state of being over, and could head-line any PPV without anyone batting an eye.
Punk could always go back to the SES thing, and I definetly think that would be the best way to go about it. Punk simply doing his "I'm the best in the World, I want respect, I'll beat you to get it" is fine, but not nearly as great as Punk getting on Stone Cold for his drinking and such. I honestly think the feud would be hotter than Cena vs Rock.
The second question comes from Monte:
"What was the best interview segment of all time?
The Brother Love Show? Piper's Pit? The Funeral Parlor? The Heartbreak Hotel? One of the many, many others?"
I have to give it to the Highlight Reel. Jericho was always entertaining, and it had some pretty big moments; John Cena to Raw, bashing Shawn's face into the Jeritron. I'm of course being bias because Jericho is my all time favorite, but that's what being a wrestling fan is all about; being bias.
How say you?
"Would he have to have a short run (similar to Jericho) to get back over first?"
ReplyDeleteHe is only the biggest wrestling star on the planet. Why don't you send him to NXT first while you're at it.
3rd biggest star on the planet.
ReplyDeleteRock 1st. Hogan 2nd.
Rock is not a bigger wrestling star than Austin. Never was, never will be.
ReplyDeleteAny "best interview segment" discussion begins and ends with Piper's Pit. Off the top of my head:
ReplyDelete- Hogan/Andre (which was HUGE back then)
- Snuka and the Coconut
- Haiti Kid getting tied up and his head shaved
There are others, but as good as Jericho is, nothing touches Piper's Pit.
As far as Stone Cold's shelf life, I think it is not infinite, just by looking at Rock. He wasn't cheered to his 98-2000 level when he came back during the Hardy-MVP feud. Could he headline a PPV NOW? Not completely sure, though I can't say he couldn't. At some point the old fans phase out to the new, and he won't be cheered as rabidly as he was in his prime, though he'd still be over, if that makes sense.
Austin was bigger when they both wrestled, but Rock has surpassed him in the decade(!) since.
ReplyDeleteNo love for, wait for it, A Flair For The Gold? It had the Shockmaster segment.
ReplyDeleteTop that.
Can you retroactively anoint Rock a bigger "wrestling" star because he's done blockbuster movies?
ReplyDeleteAustin is still bigger for the simple fact he hasn't wrestled in a decade, he is wrestling's white whale. If it was announced tomorrow that Austin vs Cena was headlining 30, it crush the buyrate record.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'm only taking about wrestling. Rock's celebrity and movie star status has nothing to do with it. Rock is definitely a bigger star than Austin, but I'm just talking about inside the wrestling bubble.
ReplyDeleteI really hope he does come back cause it'll settle that argument once and for all. I still maintain if Rock/Cena couldn't crush it (and that was a HUGE dream match), then Austin/Punk or Austin/Cena wouldn't either.
ReplyDeleteWell see, I *was* counting it so I guess we're arguing different things.
ReplyDeleteOkay, I'll adjust my list to fit your criteria:
1. Hogan
2. Austin
3. Rock
AUSTIN COMES UP SHORT AGAIN!
Keep in mind this is a scientific ranking that can't be disputed.
Probably because Rock was a shell of his former self. If/when Austin comes back, he ain't gonna be doing rap battles and debates.
ReplyDeleteI guess it's just wishful thinking I really hate that Rock / Brock never wrestle on Raw and only do a couple ppv's a year. I really like Jericho's model of coming back for a short run and leaving, we get the full Jericho experience and he doesn't have to go put on a 30 minute match after not wrestling for years. No I don't think Austin needs to go to NXT obviously.
ReplyDeleteI'll put Austin over Hogan too. Hottest year in wrestling, Austin was the biggest star.
ReplyDeletePiper's Pit was the best, even if it did turn into a bunch of lame skirt jokes at the end of his heel run. Also good was the "Body Shop" with Jesse Ventura.
ReplyDeleteThem only wrestling a few times on PPV is what keeps them special. If they wrestled on Raw every week, we'd realize how washed up they are like Jericho is.
ReplyDeleteThe build to Rock/Cena I was great.
ReplyDeleteRock and Cena both built their reps by talking, and it was a dream match so they wanted to limit the touching (understandable). I would've booked it the same way.
I'll disagree there. Hogan had 7 years where he was the main star of the biggest company in the world and it wasn't even close. He may not have drawn as much in a single year, but that kind of dominance makes you the undisputed #1.
ReplyDeleteHe had no competition. Austin's prime was fucking cutthroat.
ReplyDelete"Can you retroactively anoint Rock a bigger "wrestling" star because he's done blockbuster movies?"
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying that. I'm saying Rock is the bigger wrestling star RIGHT NOW based off his blockbuster movies. Austin was definitely bigger back in both of their primes.
Piper's Pit had nuclear heat, especially the ones in MSG when he called Bruno a "stupid wop" or when he "broke" Adrian Adonis' leg and said, "I won't have any faggots on TV."
ReplyDeletePlus they had more revenue streams in 1999 than 1988. If we're just going by dollars generated isn't John Cena technically the biggest star ever?
ReplyDeleteChalk it up to Hogan's political shrewdness. That's not relevant to the debate.
ReplyDeleteHis blockbuster movies have zero impact on his wrestling career. Tooth Fairy fans didn't suddenly become wrestling fans because The Rock came back.
ReplyDeleteI guess he would be in the same way Phil Niekro got into the HOF after playing for 25 years.
ReplyDeleteAustin coming back for one match would probably triple the buyrate if it's promoted properly, but I wouldn't have it headline WrestleMania.
ReplyDeleteAnd nothing will ever top Piper's Pit.
I was talking about going up against WCW and Nitro.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but his return generated a LOT of mainstream publicity. More than Austin's would, IMO.
ReplyDeleteThere's no point in arguing about it, though. I just can't wait for Austin to come back, ratings to go up slightly (like they did for Rock), and for an Austin-headlined Mania to do 1.15 million buys (a monster number, but no 'crushing the record').
I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on Jericho. Giving us a taste of Brock in a tag match on Raw wouldn't take away anything, in fact I think it would increase fans appetite. Also it was inexcusable that Rock only defended the belt once in 3 months. If Brock has say 20 dates - I think 10-12 are for ppv matches, 5-7 are for Raw matches, the others are for interviews and the other bullshit they do with them. The ratings pop would be huge and get people tuning back in, most people are watching him for free anyway if you get what I'm saying.
ReplyDeleteNWA/JCP wasn't terrible in those days. Clash drew well and they competed with Flair on house shows, but the Hogan/WWF machine couldn't be touched.
ReplyDeleteBut how much was the hot period in wrestling a result of the nWo/wcw?
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if I'm wrong but didn't Hogan essentially bring about the boom all by himself (I know about Lauper/Mr. T/Piper/etc but Hogan was the absolute top dog while Austin/nWo were closer).
I disagree vehemently with that attitude. As long as you're trying to build ppv #'s I think you keep guys like Rock/Brock off Raw (wrestling on Raw I mean). Makes it more special, establishes that you have to pay to see them.
ReplyDeleteI know but my point is that if they were on the same level as WWF, running the same towns etc etc, you think Hogan is able to coast along against Killer Khan?
ReplyDeleteIt generated mainstream pub, but it didn't translate into numbers because people that watch Entertainment Tonight aren't going to pay 50 bucks for a PPV because they liked Fast 5.
ReplyDeleteIt brought back old wrestling fans, and Austin being the bigger star+he hasn't been around in forever=bigger numbers.
The Highlight Reel better than Piper's Pit?
ReplyDeleteBrother Love show is easily the best. It started the Hogan/Earthquake, Hogan/Bossman, and Snake/Martel feuds. It always highlighted the current feuds, and brand new feuds. There was a memorable catchphrase. He also loves screwing over TNA.
ReplyDeletepipers pit has the most memorable stuff in spades
ReplyDeletefrankie williams, snuka, little haiti, andre turning heel, morton downey jr
plus quotes like 'machine gun/rocks' and 'answers/change questions'
WWE is doing it right. You want to see Rock and Brock wrestle on Raw, they won't let you so you're forced to pay money to see it.
ReplyDeleteI don't know how you can say it didn't translate to numbers. It's the 2nd biggest ppv of all-time.
ReplyDeleteLike I said, hopefully we'll get our answer. I just think that people are getting ahead of themselves with the predictions of how much $$$ an Austin return would bring. Ratings will go up 10% and they'll do a buyrate similar to 28. Nothing to sneeze at, but not where the expectations have been.
Steve Austin was on top when the hot period cooled off considerably. Sure the heel turn was the main reason (along with Rock leaving), but they turned him back 7 months later and the numbers kept falling (if my memory is right).
There's gotta be a stats geek around here who can pull up the ratings they did when Austin made his advertised returns in 05, 07, and 08.
Just cause a guy can pull in 7.0s in 1999 doesn't mean he'll pull a 4.5 in 2013.
We've seen it with Hogan, Rock, Brock, and DX. Nostalgia works for a bit, but it wears off pretty quick and people tune out.
I don't know about ratings, but when he came back for 21, it did the biggest buyrate ever. I'm not saying it was all because of him, but he was definitely a big part of it.
ReplyDeleteA Flair for the old!!! Austin hit's Pillman, "WAKE UP!!!" Pills come flying out of Pillmans mouth
ReplyDeleteWithout Hogan, there is no Austin. And Hogan brought the business to a level it had never seen before. Austin made/makes more money, but Hogan's influence is unsurpassed.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree with your logic. Hogan should be punished cause he was such a beast he crushed the competition, while Austin having more people at or near his level (nWo/Rock) is a testament to his appeal? I'd say it's more an indictment against Austin, and a point in the Hogan column.
ReplyDeleteWe've had this argument a million times (like on this blog, not you and me) but that buyrate belongs to Donald Trump. They got more mainstream pub for that Mania than any other in the past 20 years.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure the ratings for all his returns (and he's had at least 4 since 2005) showed no huge bump.
Austin would be bigger than the entire show if he came back for one match. He could do two or three raws and work a ppv and people would go fucking nuts. Austins window is good for as long as he could hold a mic and take a bump.
ReplyDeleteHogan didn't crush the competition, it was never there to begin with. And the fact that Austin was able overcome and blow away the nWo is pretty amazing. That's like Hogan staying in AWA and leading them over the WWF. nWo never reached the heights Austin got to.
ReplyDeleteLook no further than Hogan using all the mainstream pub he could get with Leno and it still couldn't touch Austin.
No doubt but I argue that Austin was at least 30 % of that buyrate. Is that insignificant? A lot of people wanted to see Austin stun Trump just as much as they wanted to see Vince's head shaved.
ReplyDeleteHogan did have competition, though. Snuka and JYD were seriously considered to be given the rub. Maybe not as big as Hogan ended up being, but both were VERY popular back then.
ReplyDeleteIf more people are tuning into Raw because a huge star is involved in a match, there is a larger audience to advertise the PPV to.
ReplyDeleteAustin beating the nWo was also WCW getting old and not pushing the young guys, as well as the nWo self-destructing. Looking through the old Nitros, imagine if they promoted guys like Benoit and Saturn more than the old guys who seemed to be on all the time.
ReplyDeletePiper's Pit: Hands down... all of the other ones were imitations of the best. Piper's Pit created feuds, elevated talent and turned Piper into a wrestling icon.
ReplyDeleteI wonder which interview segment people would consider the WORST.. for me it's Jesse Ventura's The Body Shop. With the exception of Randy Savage, I thought all of his segments were boring as Hell... and I was a fan of Jesse..
I dunno......the Snake Pit was pretty brutal. Also, Miz. Because, well, Miz.
ReplyDeleteNot what I was talking about, see the posts below.
ReplyDeleteUm...they would have died off a lot faster. Replace those names with Goldberg you're close. Also, WCW was still doing monster numbers during Austin's rise in 98, so it's not like he was up against a lame duck company.
ReplyDeleteWho don't have the same incentive to shell out money because they just saw him wrestle for free.
ReplyDeleteMan i forgot about the Snake Pit.. HORRIBLE.. I might have to change my answer.. LOL
ReplyDeleteRe: Austin coming back.
ReplyDeleteI don't think Austin ever comes back, for 2 reasons:
1. He's a smart guy
2. He's very mindful of his legacy
He knows that him coming back won't bring the WWE back to the levels he's used to. It's gonna bring *him* down to their level. I don't think a good (or even great) match is enough for Austin. He's not Shawn, a guy whose legacy is completely tied to the in-ring aspect. All Shawn Michaels cares about is having a stellar match and stealing the show. Steve Austin's legacy is that of the biggest (or 2ND BIGGEST ahemi'mlookinginyourdirectioncultstatus) star ever in wrestling so he needs a great match AND a big ratings/ppv buys bump.
I think Austin's seen how Rock and Brock's returns have gone, and those were the 2 biggest names in pro wrestling (besides Austin himself) that were on the outside looking in back in 2011. He sees them bumping up ratings only slightly, adding 10% to ppv buyrates, getting less crowd heat as they make more and more appearances.
At this point the myth of Steve Austin has eclipsed reality. People have forgotten 2001 and the nosedive of ratings/ppv numbers with him on top (as both a heel and babyface). They've forgotten all the times he's returned in the past decade (sheriff of Raw, Raw Homecoming, drinking contest with JBL, stunning Santino, etc.) to a fraction of the fanfare (in terms of ratings bumps and mainstream buzz) he had in his wrestling prime.
It reminds me a lot of Michael Jordan, where the myth has surpassed the facts. I saw a segment of First Take (I know, I know...) where they were debating whether or not Jordan could average 20/game in today's NBA, and both guys agreed he could. Michael Jordan. The same guy WHO STRUGGLED TO AVERAGE 20/GAME AS A 40-YEAR OLD is all of a sudden going to do it at 50? But people have forgotten all about the Wizards days, and his puffy/bloated appearance now. They only see Vintage Mike, and it's the same with Austin.
I thought all the talk about a big name from the past coming in and SMASHING PPV RECORDS and DOUBLING THE RATINGS would've stopped after both Rock *and* Brock couldn't do it. Not to mention Hulk Hogan (the REAL biggest star ever thankyouverymuch) doing jackshit with TNA's profile/numbers.
Austin beat out one of the hottest angles ever in wrestling in the NWO and put the WWF on his back to save them from bankruptcy.
ReplyDeleteCome on.
Benoit and Saturn weren't going outdraw Austin.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't give Austin all the credit for the WWF resurgence in late 97. Certainly he was a part of it, but it was a perfect storm with DX and Bret vs. Vince. The latter, and the Mr. McMahon character, were a huge part of it all.
ReplyDeleteYou can disagree with me all you want, but the idea that Hulk Hogan over Steve Austin is "come on" to you deserves a "come on" of its own.
ReplyDeleteThey're 1 and 2 and it's close.
And it's Hogan at 1 and you're wrong.
P.S. I hope you're not one of those guys who distrusts WWE's numbers and whatever financial narrative McMahon is selling, cause my understanding is HE'S the only one saying they were almost bankrupt. The same guy who shelled out how many million to Mike Tyson just a few months later was apparently almost out of business.
Without Bird/Magic there is no Jordan, but that doesn't mean Jordan isn't a bigger star than them.
ReplyDeleteI still think Austin could return if WWE ever get around to holding a Wrestlemania in Dallas. That's a damn near 100,000 seat venue for wrestling so they'd need all the star power they could muster, and the return of Texas' biggest wrestling star is a huge get.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I'd say it's about 90 percent unlikely that we see Austin come back. He'd need total creative control over the storyline, find the ideal opponent (I'm not sure even Cena is a good fit, per se) and WWE would have to forget they're PG-related for the couple of months leading up to Austin's big Mania match.
Yeah, didn't JR once say that they removed the water coolers at Titan it was getting so bad? I mean, really?
ReplyDeleteProblem with that is that the WWE won't be able to book a WM there for a while. It's a shame because a Dallas stadium Mania with HBK, Austin, and Taker on the card would be nuts.
ReplyDeleteEh. I can live with Hogan being above Austin, but Austin was always bigger than The Rock in the ring.
ReplyDeleteAustin said some interesting things in a recent interview about a comeback which made me think it's closer than ever to happening.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn't be surprised to learn that he was taking the same risk with 13 that he took with 1.
ReplyDeleteOh, THAT was what "come on" was referring to.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I clarified what I meant in one of my 20 comments down below. I didn't know we were talking just in-ring, my new list was 1. Hogan 2. Austin 3. Rock.
I really hate all the "one more match" crap with Austin. He can't go. He can't wrestle. I love the guy, but who wants to see him get hurt? For what, money? He's got plenty. Respect? Tons of that, too (as long as you forget that domestic assault bit, but otherwise...). Other than the fun he'd get from some great pops, what could he could get out one last WWE run that would be worth the serious chance of ending up paralyzed or dead?
ReplyDeleteAustin himself said he is now healthy enough to take bumps and wrestle a match.
ReplyDelete"as long as you forget that domestic assault bit, but otherwise..."
ReplyDeleteCM Punk: Hater of Women-Beaters sure did.
Go watch him trading suplexes on "Tough Enough" a few years ago - he's not quite at the Bret Hart, "if I take a back-bump I'll die" point yet.
ReplyDeleteI recall him saying he could go full time for 2 years if he needed to.
ReplyDeleteLatest rumors suggest that Cowboys Stadium is the front-runner for "WM31".
ReplyDeleteUm, without Bird or Magic, Jordan does exist. But neither Bird nor Magic have done the things Hogan did. Even considering how wrestling is cyclical, Hogan and McMahon brought the WWF to unprecedented heights, over a long LONG period of time. If VM doesn't go national with someone of Hogan's popularity (and also add the MTV connection, allowing wrestling to connect with MTV's male demographic), wrestling doesn't become as big as it did.
ReplyDeleteNeither Bird nor Magic did the things Jordan did (nor did they have the NBA backing them at every conceivable opportunity like they did with Jordan), but no one argues Jordan's influence.
No, but I'm using them as a demonstration for the youth in the company.
ReplyDeleteWait, what? Before Bird and Magic were trading championships in the mid-80s on prime time TV, the NBA finals were usually shown on tape delay. Bird and Magic allowed the NBA to go national and a big time way, while MJ allowed them to go international. You have to go national first, so in a way, without Magic and Bird, there is no global superstar Michael Jordan.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I read, they're are looking at a east coast city. Dallas can't have WM because of the final four.
ReplyDeleteWhat did he say?
ReplyDeleteYeah, I'll amend - forgot about the tape-delay stuff.
ReplyDeleteMy argument is basically that Hogan paved the way for Austin, but Hogan at that time had more of an impact on the sport than Austin did. I think Austin (or Jordan) would've still been big, but Austin's impact wouldn't have been as big as Hogan's.
Agreed. You always make more of an impact when you're the first to do it. Hogan was the guy that brought wrestling from a territory industry into a nationwide thing. No one will ever top that.
ReplyDeleteDon't remember the exact quote but he kept talking about creative and money regarding a return rather this his health.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Austin, his podcast with Hall is up and it's fantastic. Go listen to it.
ReplyDeleteWould they even let Austin be Austin in the PG era though?
ReplyDeleteHere's the quote you're talking about, White Thunder: "I could still, you know if I was in a bad situation, I could still get two years out of my carcass on a full-time basis."
ReplyDeleteColor me skeptical. I don't buy it at all. He hasn't had a real match in a decade (not counting those mid-decade matches). He was wrestling without the okay of a doctor back then. He's been nearly paralyzed at one point, had risky neck surgery, and is damn lucky he can walk today.
If the Broken Skull Ranch burned down and Bernie Madoff ran off with all his money and Eric Bischoff, yeah, maybe. But I don't see that happening, and I don't see another SCSA match in our lifetime. And I'm kind of glad for that.
*Biased
ReplyDeleteHahaha I'm SHOCKED it took this long for someone to correct that. I was sure it'd be the first comment.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I had to double check.
ReplyDeleteAustin may have been the bigger wrestling star, but Rocky is one of the biggest stars in the world. If Rocky's return slowly petered out, as it did, then you can bet that Austin's would too.
ReplyDeleteHis schtick was already getting tired when he was the sherrif. That was terrible.
Any form of return would ultimately only tarnish his legacy as Rocky's did.
This could have been a post about Shawn Michaels in 2002.
ReplyDeleteIf that mnay people would have legitimately paid money to see Donald Trump on a ppv, he'd have started doing Apprentice ppvs. I think it was just dumb luck, because no one honestly gives THAT much a fuck about Trump.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree. People always assume there's this HUGE segment of wrestling fans from the Attitude Era that are just *waiting* to come back, they just need a reason. People forget how much of the wrestling boom was due to casuals who didn't grow up with the product, it was just a fun and cool thing to watch at the time. Those people don't wanna come back, they think wrestling is stupid and Stone Cold isn't going to do anything for them.
ReplyDelete(Some) smarks act like there's this huge group of people for whom wrestling is their lost love, the One That Got Away, and they'd love to reconnect if they ran into her (Rock, Austin). The truth is, those people view wrestling as that skank from the bar they picked up way back when (late 90s), and she looked disgusting in the morning (2001-onwards). They laugh her off as a "mistake" and would roast you if you thought about picking her up one night.
Shawn Michaels in 2002- 37.
ReplyDeleteStone Cold Steve Austin today- 48.
Big difference there.
Hey, I'd mark out and all for a SCSA return...but I don't want to see a ref standing over him making the X sign.
If Austin came back you couldn't do the whole Reurning Megastar bit they did with Rock. We already know Austin's a star. He'd have to get some of that Terry Funk Crazy Old Man mojo and have the story be about whether he's still the baddest SOB on the planet. Seems weird but it makes him seem like a bigger deal if you first question his toughness and then have him prove it.
ReplyDeleteHave you seen Austin lately? Dude is ripped. Cliche as it is, he probably really is in the best shape of his life.
ReplyDeleteDefinitely think there are lapsed wrestling fans out there, although not at attitude era levels, who can be brought back.
ReplyDeleteWith today's nutritional knowledge and medical advancements, 48 is like being 38.
ReplyDeleteHulk Hogan is rushing this comment to Dixie as we speak.
ReplyDeleteOne more match, brother!
ReplyDeleteUgh. Fucking blogger. No joke, I originally had another joke at the end. But changed it. So, I copy & pasted it from where I write it from, right? I publish, and it says "bias". So I think perhaps I forgot to copy & paste the ED part. So I just go in and fix it. Update it. It's still bias. I changed the fucking thing 4 times and it wouldn't fix. At one point it put it in bold. Blogger is the absolute worst.
ReplyDeleteI think the PG era would limit Austin's character slightly...less beer drinking, no middle fingers, no fake gun being held to Vince's head, etc. And although, his character was kind if dated last time we saw him on TV, he would find a way to slightly reinvent himself as to where he could still be a top draw.
ReplyDeletePeople over look how intelligent he was to the business. He had moments of brilliance as a Hollywood Blonde and secondary WcW champ before he was derailed by injuries and politics. Was over in ECW while finding his way to the Stone Cold character, and although he initially struggled in WWE, he eventually became the hottest act ever. I think "Stone Cold" and the attitude era was the perfect symbiosis but Steve Williams would be successful in any era.
I think you wouldn't do the gun things, but I don't see why you couldn't enjoy a Steveweiser. You had Jericho pouring whiskey all over CM Punk last year.
ReplyDeleteFlipping the bird isn't exactly M for Mature either.
The whiskey thing was a one off deal. I doubt they'd let him drink beer every show but I could be wrong.
ReplyDeleteWhile the middle finger thing isn't exactly edgy anymore, I can't see him being allowed to do that either.
Piper's Pit easily. Snake Pit second and Funeral Parlor third.
ReplyDeleteThe Highlight Reel was awful IMO.
I was thinking about this:
ReplyDeleteTerry Funk was 45 when he came back to the NWA to challenge Flair in 89'. He wrestled at a high level, including a brief stint in WWF, into his mid 50's.
Hogan was Austin's current age when he came back to WWE and won the belt from Triple H. That run is a perfect template for Austin in my humble opinion. Hogan was over like rover.
Ric Flair wrestled at an extremely high level all through his 50's. His run with Evolution was ridiculous for a man his age, he was one of the top heels on Raw. he had a fucking a ladder match with Edge for Christ sake.
Austin looks like he is in fantastic shape, I have no doubt he could do it so long as he is not suffering from issues such as spinal stenosis.
Only good one was the heel turn on HBK.
ReplyDeleteExactly. I was TERRIFIED for Shawn that first year he came back, thinking he was one bump away from a helper monkey.
ReplyDeleteBrother Love was when I really came into being a fan. Not as good as the Pit, but the guy was a heat machine. Had plenty of big moments like the Bossman Face turn.
ReplyDeleteWorst would have to be Missy's Manor...except the one with Heenan.
Yea, It always amazed me how much heat Brother Love could generate. Great interview segment
ReplyDeleteDallas is hosting the 2014 Final Four, so the stadium would be wide-open for Wrestlemania 31 in 2015.
ReplyDeleteIf I had to guess, I'd say that WM 31-35 will be held in (in no particular order)....Dallas, Orlando, the 49ers new stadium in Santa Clara, Detroit and one Canadian city, either Toronto or Vancouver.
I would go nuts for a SES Punk Vs SCSA One off feud! Steve would have to tone down a bit, but remember they did let rock says "bitch" and stuff like that during his past couple runs.
ReplyDeleteGive Vickie a Segment it would blow the doors off the building with the Heat that women brings... Thats why I said put her with Ryback could reinjuvenate him, and get him legit heat.
ReplyDeleteA lot of the casual Attitude Era fans have gone over to UFC at this point, I think.
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