Greetings. "Normally, my prospects of coming back alive from a meeting with Nicky
were 99 out of 100. But this time, when I heard him say "a couple of
hundred yards down the road", I gave myself 50-50"
Today's question comes from a Mr. Elmo Machete.
Now, even though New Jack is terrible, he was at least charismatic, and could at least move quickly, unlike The Great Khali. He moved like a slug, and literally did nothing but chops, kicks, and his pancake slam. He was the most boring motherfucker, and the worst wrestler in history. Of course, what did they do? They not only pushed him to the tippy top, gave him his own gimmick match, but he pinned The Undertaker with ONE FOOT! Thankfully they just keep him in the undercard now, which I'm happy with because he's a fantastic human being, and does a lot for his people, so I want him employed, just not in the main event.
Of course, there's also DeBo, best known to you people as Zeus...
How say you?
Today's question comes from a Mr. Elmo Machete.
Not sure if this has been used as a topic before, but trying to get through that Samoa Joe/Necro Butcher match the other day got me thinking about something my friends & I were talking about the other day: who did we each think was the absolute WORST wrestler, the one without even the tiniest hint of skill, that we'd ever seen perform?New Jack is a pretty good selection, and once you said you're not sure if you've ever seen him do a wrestling move, I had to think about that myself. I can't think of anything either. Just hitting people with things. Although I've never seen his Smokey Mountain work.
I myself settled on New Jack. I'm literally shocked that anyone has ever let him inside a wrestling ring (even though when near one, he doesn't often stay inside for long). Can't stand him, never could, can't believe he's ever been booked anywhere. By anyone. Don't think I've ever seen him do an actual wrestling move. Your (and the Blog's) picks?
Now, even though New Jack is terrible, he was at least charismatic, and could at least move quickly, unlike The Great Khali. He moved like a slug, and literally did nothing but chops, kicks, and his pancake slam. He was the most boring motherfucker, and the worst wrestler in history. Of course, what did they do? They not only pushed him to the tippy top, gave him his own gimmick match, but he pinned The Undertaker with ONE FOOT! Thankfully they just keep him in the undercard now, which I'm happy with because he's a fantastic human being, and does a lot for his people, so I want him employed, just not in the main event.
Of course, there's also DeBo, best known to you people as Zeus...
How say you?
Big John Studd was awful.
ReplyDeleteEl Gigante/Giant Gonzalez, anyone?
ReplyDeleteKhali is the worst. Perhaps there have been other worse, but they didn't have his freakish appearance and thus were not pushed to near the top of the biggest wrestling company in history. It was one of the many things that kept me away from WWE from 2006-2011.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe I am dropping two Giant Gonzalez references in one day but there you go, ( in case anyone is wondering I told the Fuj that he should watch The Best of Giant Gonzalez matches for his flight.)
ReplyDeleteI saw the Gangstas run in SMW. You weren't missing a whole lot.
ReplyDeleteThe worst actual wrestler in my recorded memory had to be George "The Animal" Steele. Two things you could count on: lots of biting, and lots of turnbuckle stuffing all over the ring. Really, outside of the Savage-Elizabeth storyline, he had nothing going for him. Now, worst actual non-regular performer had to be Jay Fucking Leno. Talk about business exposing.
ReplyDeleteNew Jack has charisma, Khaki at least carries an intimidating look...
ReplyDeleteEl Gigante/Giant Gonzalez has to be the answer here. No charisma or in ring talent, and was 8'47" tall and weighed a buck and a quarter.
Surely there must be some roided up, kick-punchers from the late 80s or early 90s WWF that make the list or can dethrone Khali. I am drawing a blank right now, though.
ReplyDeleteI only saw one match, but Tom Magee was grotesquely bad. Great look and was supposed to be one of Vince's pet projects circa-1986ish, but there was no way he would've ever put this clown on TV. I'll see if I can find the link and throw it up here.
ReplyDeleteIt amounted to "He's black! We live in the hills! Boo this man!"
ReplyDeleteI also submit Bill Kazmeier as an entrant into the sub-mediocrity battle royal-e.
ReplyDeletePay particular attention to the "chops" around the 1:45 mark:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4zYfaTBLk0
Um... don't we have a "professional wrestler" who was on these boards for a while, and couldn't even perform basic moves with any skill?
ReplyDeleteOr is there a fame "floor" here?
I saw a McGuire twins match once.
ReplyDeleteI'm going to stay away from the attractions like Khali and Jorge Gonzalez because they did what they were supposed to do, and it's unfair to compare them to a once in a lifetime Giant like Andre.
That said, going with Ian Rotten. WOW.
Yeah, I'd say there has to be some fame to be in contention. Otherwise, yeah, we could give it to him.
ReplyDeleteGood choice - and might as well put Ted Arcidi on that list for the same reason.
ReplyDeleteOutback Jack.
ReplyDelete"Once you go black, you get bad credit!"
ReplyDeleteECW's 911 was so bad that Heyman only had him go out to do chokeslams.
ReplyDeleteWe need to create one of those or a tournament, I think.
ReplyDeleteGonzalez, Khali, Kazmeier, Magee, Bushwackers, Brakkus, George Steele...
There was a big fat fuck in the AWA years ago named Silo Sam who was god awful. And come to think of it, the AWA also gave us Earthquake Ferris, who might have been worse.
ReplyDeleteI would love to see that fabled Bret Hart vs. Tom Magee match, which was allegedly so good (thanks to Bret's 100 percent carry job) that Vince was ecstatic that he'd found his new big star in Magee. After seeing Magee/Wajima, all I can say is maybe Bret really WAS the best if he could pull a ***1/2 star match out of that slug.
ReplyDeleteHey, RSG, thanks for the kind words. I'm glad you're digging the website.
ReplyDeleteMatter of fact, I'm gonna watch a Nitro here in a few minutes and have the update today.
The lack of updates is my fault, and I apologize. I've been stretching myself thin, as a few websites have requested my services, and I just can't say no, even though my own projects are suffering. I'm gonna hop on the good foot and get to the hustle, and keep the updates steady.
AWA was frustrating like that. Bockwinkel, Stevens, Hennig, Larry Z with his work boots... then you had the Milkman, Buck Kiddie Porn Zumhofe and the rest.
ReplyDeleteBusiness exposing?! Did you SEE that arm bar?!
ReplyDeleteOH GOD the Great Antonio!
ReplyDeleteWho's that tall pile of shot who "fought" Baba in a Botchamania... Raja Lion?
ReplyDeleteZeus should be in consideration for any worst wrestler ever conversation. There's a match with him against Abdulllah the butcher from Mexico that only has choking and stalling as far as I remember. Nailz aka Prisoner was supremely awful too but never main evented a PPV
ReplyDeleteI trust this man with eggs.
ReplyDeleteSomeones gonna say HHH just to rile everyone up
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I covered my eyes until I was sure he was out of the ring.
ReplyDeleteGood choice
ReplyDeleteI can't get behind you on the Bushwhackers if we are including The Sheepherders.
ReplyDeleteLet's go with a tournament. Scott doesn't rate Battle Royals.
ReplyDeleteSilo Sam was the guy who chased Pee Wee Herman around the dinosaur in Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Also worked as Big John Harris. Useless lug in the ring.
ReplyDeleteHow about Mongo McMichael? Don't recall him ever pulling off a move that didn't look somewhat botched but then again most of my memories of Mongo are from Botchamania!
ReplyDeletePeople tend to mention the Sheepherders a lot, but I haven't seen enough of their matches back in the day. I've seen about two of their matches, and they just seemed like Bushwacker matches with less comedy and more violence (but nothing skillful). If there's a good link that exemplifies their work, I'd love to see it.
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't good, but I'd put him just off the bottom here.
ReplyDeleteHave you seen anything they did against the Fantastics? That's about their best stuff.
ReplyDeleteAlso by his career so far I'd have to mention Wes Brisco who has shockingly bad skills in the ring considering who he's related to. He was better off under a mask just participating in beatdowns.
ReplyDeleteMongo is God-awful, but he's in the "so bad it's good" category.
ReplyDeleteOften times I cited Nailz vs Virgil from SummerSlam 92 as the worst match I've ever seen. But then I saw Abdullah vs Zeus...
ReplyDeleteI don't think The Hitman posts to this blog.
ReplyDeleteYOU DON'T DRINK COFFEE IN FRONT OF A MAN!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteMongo was bad but his promos always cracked me up
At least he wanted to learn, and tried, you know? You can't even say that of Rodman, who was pretty much the reason for the worst main event in history, Bash at the Beach 1998.
ReplyDeleteThis post makes me think how much things have changed... I can't imagine Vince getting excited about anyone's match to the point he thinks they will be a star now. To me he looks solely for look and marketability... if they can work it is an added but unnecessary bonus.
ReplyDeleteHa. True. To amuse myself I picture him trolling here under an alias.
ReplyDeleteGreat khali is really bad but cena carried him to a 3 star match once. I loooooove sabu but when he's dogging it it can get real ugly and that ladder match against sandman might be the worst real match I've ever seen. Giant Gonzalez was the worst I've ever seen but I would classify him as more of a special attraction than a real wrestler. Kevin Nash is probably the worst wrestler of anyone who became a top guy.
ReplyDeleteBut for my money Erik watts is the guy I would put as the actual worst I've ever seen.
I just feel like 911 was more of a (really cool) gimmick, he didn't work too many matches and was more like a character on the show than a actual wrestler on the roster. That said, he did suck
ReplyDeleteI couldn't get enough of mongo doing those dumb promos as a kid
ReplyDeleteAnd I'm assuming we aren't counting divas
ReplyDeleteIf we are I vote for Jackie Gayda. Useless in the ring, but a nice set of tits!
ReplyDeleteWhats the best match miz ever had?
ReplyDeleteI usually give New Jack the benefit of the doubt as while he cant actually "wrestle", he is able to captivate the audience, sending them into a frenzy and can entertain the fuck out of people.
ReplyDeleteWhile I understand dogging him for not being able to wrestle, I give him props for being able to get away with his style of working and still being completely over wherever he competes. The weapons shit does get old (CZW), but I would honestly rather watch a batshit insane New Jack match from ECW over a match with 2 good workers who can only deliver high spots with no storytelling
Raja Lion, anyone?
ReplyDeleteYea, I can see that. Its kinda like picking Sable as the worst. He worked matches and was pretty central in storylines so classify him as a "wrestler" in my mind.
ReplyDeleteDaniel Bryan @ Night of Champions 2010. Pretty good if I remember right
ReplyDeleteThis dropkick still might be the worst ever delivered in a wrestling ring.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ddtdigest.com/pictures/dropkick.jpg
My first thought was El Gigante. My second thought was still El Gigante.
ReplyDeleteKhali actually makes me sad, which is something I can't say about any other bad wrestler. I understand that he does some great things for his country and wouldn't mind him acting as a Goodwill Ambassador for WWE or something similar. But him in the ring at this point is just a disaster waiting to happen.
ReplyDeleteIn regards to Khali, is there any particular reason they keep him employed?
ReplyDeleteI can only assume the Indian market.
ReplyDeleteThat's two votes for him...
ReplyDeleteMy vote would be that Jenna Morasca who had that forgettable run in TNA as Kevin Nash's arm candy and had that spectacularly-bad match against Booker T's missus on PPV no less!
ReplyDeleteYeah, Triple H and Cena have both carried Khali to good matches, which basically disqualifies him from this list, bad as he may be.
ReplyDeleteDid you guys forget about meeeeee?
ReplyDeleteI'd have to say vs Morrison, Falls Count Anywhere on Raw. However, I think that was more Morrison than Miz. I mean, not even Cena could get a decent match out of him, and Cena's dragged a watchable match out of EVERYONE he's wrestled, and that includes Khali & JBL.
ReplyDeleteI'd also be interested to hear everyone's thoughts on people who aren't universally thought of as terrible workers, but you just hate their in ring work.
ReplyDeleteFor me, it has to be Carlito. I thought he telegraphed a lot, and his matches just LOOKED super fake because of it.
Davey Richards.
ReplyDeleteDo people really look at JBL as a shitty worker? I think he was pretty good for what his style limited him to.
ReplyDeleteEvan Karagis. I remember we had a thread here talking about the 3 things a wrestler needs (ring skill, promo skill, and "the look"), and he has none of those things. See also: QT Marshall, who's just completely fucking useless.
ReplyDeleteThe same Indian market that floods the WWE Facebook pages with posts like: "I luv Jin Sina! Lt's go Sina Sina sux!"?
ReplyDeleteYes, That Match.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnyOlQUF8k
ReplyDeleteAh, the world's only -****** match. It's from WWC out of Puerto Rico, BTW.
Mongo matches felt like watching rookies walk through matches at the Power Plant.
ReplyDelete"The internet confided in me that I was the greatest troll of all time, and I deserved to be WWF Champion."
ReplyDeleteWell he had the milk thing going for him...
ReplyDeleteThat comparison is terribly unfair to Kickpuncher.
ReplyDeleteI think Khali suffers (and Big Show) to an extent because of the Even Stevens style of match WWE has been known for since the late '90s. Andre by the time I was watching wasn't so great, as has been well documented, but I still bought him as a threat because of his size and how very few people got him to sell for them. Now, you have giants going down clean left and right.
ReplyDeletethere are people who honestly believe that during his original run, brock didnt know how to work
ReplyDeletei also have a feeling this qotd might lead to one about best non-wrestlers who wrestled
Posting with tears in his eyes no doubt.... No wait it's us that are supposed to have tears on our eyes approaching him. Now I am all confused....dammit Bret.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad someone else around here watches Community.
ReplyDeleteRey whenever he wrestles a non-lightweight/light heavyweight. Watching guys like Kane and Show awkwardly fumbling into position so Rey can hit his spots used to drive me bananas. Talk about business-exposing.
ReplyDeleteChristian is another guy I just couldn't get excited about. Technically speaking, he's pretty good but his matches do nothing for me because I just don't buy into him as a legit threat. To me, he's the modern day Koko B. Ware.
Threadjack. New Kayfabe commentary with Russo on 2000 WcW. We MUST get Bayless to review this
ReplyDeleteRVD
ReplyDeleteThat guy was awful. The cruiserweight feud with Medusa really just......fuck. I hated it.
ReplyDeleteThe Undertaker wishes he knew how to drop a Tombstone like Mongo McMichael.
ReplyDeleteGive me all the hell I deserve for this, but I didn't mind him on commentary.
ReplyDeleteRandy Orton. He looks like a video game.
ReplyDeleteMarks spend their rupees.
ReplyDeleteMagee was at least fairly athletic; for a guy his size he was good at flipping around. He just had no idea how to work. I would grant him the possession of several ounces of skill. Maybe if Vince hadn't been so high on him, he might have been able to develop into a passable worker under the radar, the way Chris Master's eventually sorted himself out.
ReplyDeleteKhali is from Hyrule? Do you think he knows Zelda or Link?
ReplyDeleteI hate to disagree, but I couldn't disagree more. People tend to think Rey's later matches were too formulaic. That might be true for the random matches on Smackdown, but he brought the goods with his more intense feuds. The Rey DVD set from two years ago has a good amount of great matches he had from 2008 to 2011.
ReplyDeleteChristian has a flair for the dramatic in his matches that do make him a strong upper mid-card guy. Watch his matches with Del Rio and Orton from this past month and with the same guys in 2011 and it's almost impossible not to give them at least 3 snowflakes.
Allegedly the WWE brought him in for a try out when Cena was feuding with Carlito. They asked him to chain wrestle and he did OK.
ReplyDeleteCertainly possible. Although I almost hold his athleticism against him. That Wajima match is over 2 years into Magee's "career." How could a guy with that level of athleticism still be so goddamn terrible?? At least with someone like Khali, the horror is understandable.
ReplyDeleteEveryone else seems to like him a lot, and give him credit for inventing a bunch of moves, and most finishers... but I can't fucking stand Kanyon, never could.
ReplyDeleteBetween that and Stevie Ray climbing to the FIRST rope WCW had some BAD wrestling.
ReplyDeleteHe's big... and there's always a certain segment of people who will pay to see a big man.
ReplyDeleteHe at least had 3 Count going for him.
ReplyDeleteNever heard of him before Botchamania... but holy god he's worse than Khali ever was.
ReplyDeleteYeah, he wanted to be the guy who stabbed John Cena at a club... then we got Jesus in suspenders instead... for one match.
ReplyDeleteThere were a couple of times where he was swaying and stumbling while holding the guy up. I feared for the safety of all involved. I put it on my personally created "Worst of WCW" dvd that included the Uncensored 96 cage match, El Dandy, any Sting promo where he got all excited he forgot what he was going to say, Savage's moustache promo on Mean Gene, and more. I probably should've made copies and sold it. Nice comedic stuff.
ReplyDeleteI agree. Those promos were good bad and funny bad. I loved them.
ReplyDeleteBy the time JBL found his money drawing gimmick, his money drawing work was long gone. He held his own against Eddie, but didn't do crap after that. Once the title run was over he just went to complete shit... Shawn Michaels had trouble getting something watchable out of him.
ReplyDeleteTriple H liked his look so much, he stole it in the summer/fall of '03.
ReplyDeleteHated the dog though...
ReplyDeleteWell George Steele had a great run as a monster heel... a true ugly monster heel that drew money. You were never going to get arm drags out of the guy anyway.
ReplyDeleteUncle Elmer
ReplyDeleteSeconded. He has the aforementioned Carlito problem of telegraphing stuff, and his only offense is variations on the same three basic things ("Oh, now I'm gonna kick ya & flip THIS way!").
ReplyDeleteSeconded.
ReplyDeleteIn ANY role he played. Good ole "fat piece of shit" Haystacks Calhoun.
ReplyDeleteOne name, only based on historical/other opinions: George Gulas, son of Nick Gulas. He (allegedly) made Erik Watts and Greg Gagne look like world champions.
Watched it yesterday, not a must see
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure we are disagreeing, though. Rey is perfectly fine against lighter guys or heavyweights who know how to work around his style without things looking phony or choreographed, but those "Davey vs. Goliath" type bouts just never worked for me. Particularly once the injuries and "supplement bloat" settled in.
ReplyDeleteAs for Christian, I never said he was outright BAD, just that he doesn't do anything for me personally. His matches are usually pretty good, but they feel like extended squashes because I can't suspend disbelief enough to think he can actually beat anyone. And when he DOES win, it feels more like a fluke than anything else.
I guess my big problem was that I never got that sense of enjoyment out of New Jack, as a performer or a character. Didn't see the "charisma" Ye Olde Calibre mentioned, just saw (in the character) the same guy as all the wannabe thugs from my high school. The fact that the actual performer was the exact opposite of a high school wannabe thug makes me fear for anybody that's ever been booked to "wrestle" him.
ReplyDeleteKhali has been shown as being dragged to good matches (kicking and unintelligably screaming though he may be) and is more of a special attraction (as I guess Gonzales would be too, but HO-LEE JESUS how did I forget about him). New Jack stuck out to me as the worst to ever regularly be featured as "just another guy" on a major roster. Some of the 80s WWF examples have been awful too, I guess I was just in a really strong "anti-garbage-wrestling" frame of mind.
I haven't watched it, but everything I've heard says it's just the same old crap Russo has been saying for years. "It was my job to get ratings and I did, everything else that went wrong is somebody else's fault" blah blah blah
ReplyDeleteKevin Greene wasn't awful....he was a long-time wrestling fan and actually tried. He certainly wasn't great, but I've seen worse.
ReplyDeleteWhen Khali first came in he was booked an unstoppable monster. He still sucked.
ReplyDelete"We got about two hundred dollas, didn't we Debo?" "I GOT ABOUT TWO HUNDRED DOLLAS."
ReplyDeleteWouldn't Zeus be counted as more a celebrity-turned-wrestler, like Lawrence Taylor or Drew Carey?
Yeah, he was kind of a frightening guy to give a head-droppy finisher to. It was even weirder because Finlay was using the move at the exact same time. They should have just given him a generic football tackle of some sort.
ReplyDeleteHere's an idea. If Fonzie tosses you a chair - don't hold it in front of your face. I always hated that spot.
ReplyDeleteWhy would you give a guy a dog if you weren't going to eventually have a heel murder it and feed it to him? It just didn't make any sense.
ReplyDeleteI said years ago that if there was one guy who could get Cena over with the entire crowd, it's crazy ass New Jack cutting insane heel promos and being his usual lunatic self.
ReplyDeleteSeconded.
ReplyDeleteI've seen the match, and I have to say... in a world with Uncensored '96, can that REALLY be the worst main event of all time? Can't agree with you.
ReplyDeleteIf it's just non-wrestlers we're talking about and not celebrities, that conversation begins and ends with Lil' Naitch vs. Gorgeous George.
ReplyDeleteHow about Bill Alfonso vs. Beluah?
ReplyDeleteDamnit, now I've got to rewatch BOTH of those...
ReplyDeleteLT, obviously. And Maria Whatshername from Extra. Snooki wasn't the disaster I thought she'd be, so I guess she counts. I never saw the Kevin Malone match, but by all accounts he didn't stink up the joint.
ReplyDeleteThe real question is: where does Mr. T rank on the scale? Especially when compared to later efforts?
Wow, I didn't realize he'd had two years at that point. It's amazing that he couldn't learn to work at least a passable strike by that point. It looks like he's throwing real punches and kicks which he doesn't want to hurt his opponent so he throws them at 1/4 speed. If he couldn't grasp working blows, maybe he should have made his offense so kick heavy.
ReplyDeleteHow about that Belly to Belly suplex?
ReplyDeleteI'd never seen this one, but Tim Horner managed to carry him to a passable 7 minute match. There were some botches, be assured, but Magee didn't look thoroughly incompetent at all times. Mind you, Horner is doing 95% of the work. Why don't people talk about Tim Horner more? He was easily my favorite WWF JTTS of the late Rock N' Wrestling era. I genuinely believed he would ascend at some point and start winning matches. Kind of like what eventually happened for the Hardy Boyz.
http://youtu.be/zylbKZhoHPQ
People shit on Greg because of his dad. He was a great tag wrestler and had the fundamentals down... but he just didn't look like a star, he looked like your friend's dad.
ReplyDeleteApparently, WWF also hired him as "Trapper John" for what must have been a very brief run. I'm not sure if he ever wrestled on WWF TV.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8ZK5yXZEi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDTB9TOq87Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTQC8VBhxQ
YUP.
Of the ones I've seen, I have to agree LT was probably the best.
ReplyDeleteThe best thing about 3 Count was, "fanboy" Tank Abbott
ReplyDeleteLT/Bam Bam is the Flair/Steamboat of "celebrity Matches."
ReplyDeleteAlthough it's an odd match, I love the Mayweather/Big Show match.
Agreed, but even before that I was always a fan of the gimmick.
ReplyDeleteFor any other fellow Brits who remember or have seen like I have any of the old World of Sport wrestling would have to put Big Daddy forward as he coasted for years being an old flabby guy who waved a Union Jack flag and used his disgusting gut as his main offence.
ReplyDeleteHorner was REALLY good, albeit undersized. If he and Brad Armstrong had a touch more charisma (or hadn't had the misfortune of constantly being surrounded by other great teams), they could've had multiple tag title runs in Mid-South/UWF/NWA.
ReplyDeleteI wish WWE didn't change Navi's name to Hornswoggle.
ReplyDeleteCornette - Heyman tuxedo match. Fucking RIOT.
ReplyDeleteTied with this:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0nPARzqeH4#t=5m52s
I was in Britain for a bit ten years ago and saw old World of Sport on the Wrestling Channel. Yeah, about Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks... although Robinson, Dynamite and Rocco were BEASTS.
ReplyDeleteWow I forgot all about this. I remember being excited about Lance Storm's arrival just based on this debut.
ReplyDeleteDid Giant Gonzales do anything but throw those lazy chops and that awkward chokeslam?
ReplyDeleteLoch Ness, massive guy but made Gonzalez look like a luchadore.
ReplyDeleteI thought about the Triple Cage of Doom before I posted that, and I still stand by my choice. The TCD is bad, but it's laughable bad. You could watch it with your friends and have the time of your life. But the main from BATB 1998? It's 45 minutes of Hulk Hogan vs DDP and a basketball player, and Rodman occasionally getting in the ring and falling all over the place. It's insufferable.
ReplyDeleteGreg wasn't nearly as bad as some of the other stiffs being mentioned in this thread. He wasn't great and he was booked way above his skill level - but you're right in that he at least knew what he was doing in the ring.
ReplyDeleteI don't think what he looks for has really changed, nor do I think he looks for one set thing in everyone. WWE has always been the circus of wrestling: something for everyone. If you don't like the clowns, you'll like the elephants or maybe the lion tamer. If you don't like the great workers, maybe you'll love the giants or great promo guy.
ReplyDeleteThis is like when you go outside and you're just beatin on your next door neighbor!!!
ReplyDeleteAfter Mega Man Magee beats a guy, he wins his next match with that guy's finisher.
ReplyDeleteI can't believe at one point in my life I was watching every eisode of WWE, WCW, ECW,SMW, USWA?,andlike one other one. One of them had like a checkerboard floor the ring was on.
ReplyDeleteOne Rey/big man match I LOVED was the one against Lesnar not long after Lesnar turned heel and won back the WWE Title from Angle. There was this spot op n the outside where Rey gives Lesnar a hurricarana but instead of flipping over he just flies forward and posts himself.
ReplyDeleteRey mysterio is the fucking man
ReplyDeleteCaliber mentioned the Punjabi Prison Match... but did Khali ever actually wrestle in one? I remember the first one they replaced him with Big Show, and I'm almost positive the other one was between Taker and Batista.
ReplyDeleteI'm with you on that. He's the worst/best. And compared to 2013 Lawler he's bobby heenan
ReplyDeleteAlso the vast vast majority of the guys Vince has pushed to the TOP post hogan have been really good to excellent workers. He knows even with the circus the main event has to deliver. You would never see him allow those dog shit wcw ppv main events in his company.
ReplyDeleteKevin Greene. I'm not saying he could have been the next HBK or anything, but he could have been a decent worker if he stuck with it. He at least seemed to care about putting on a decent match, and that's 3/4 of the battle right there.
ReplyDeleteYes. Beulah in a sports bra+Alfonso hitting about 1.1 Muta=awesome.
ReplyDeleteThe heat was incredible though. "I'm not the nigger you need to be fucking with!" Jesus...
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on Christian. I kind of feel the same way about him that I do about country music. I don't hate it, but no way in hell will I ever go out of my way to find it.
ReplyDeleteThose guys were definitely great but the big difference and only positive thing I can say about Big Daddy is that he GOT the sports entertainment side of wrestling and was a British low budget version of Hulk Hogan before Hogan had truly found Hulkamania.
ReplyDeleteThe first one was Taker/Big Show. It was originally scheduled to be Taker/Khali, but Khali was removed at the last second due to... a Wellness violation, I think? I forget that part. A year later, the second Prison match was between Khali and Batista. Never saw either of them, but I heard they were both pretty mediocre.
ReplyDeleteDisappointing. Think itd still be interesting to hear his side of things though
ReplyDeleteNo one's mentioned David Flair yet? Kind of surprised.
ReplyDeleteElevated enzymes.
ReplyDeleteHe did THE CLAW and said "I WANT....ZE BELT!"
ReplyDeleteYeah, nobody even comes close.
ReplyDeleteThat's right, I remember now. Lashley was also pulled from the show for the same reason.
ReplyDeleteVs. CM Punk vs. Alberto Del Rio at TLC '11
ReplyDeleteKris Sprules and/or Cage Tyler
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LUMuX8MIkk
To be fair Loch Ness was the very end of the wrestlers career, before that he'd spent decades basically being the UK version of Andre The Giant, as Giant Haystacks. Whilst he was never a high flyer he was a decent worker in his prime.
ReplyDeleteCena and Miz had some good matches on RAW.
ReplyDeleteI remember Cena and the Undertaker both getting decent matches out of Khali so he isn't the worst ever but certainly in the bottom few. Boris zhukov I'd put at number one... he had absolutely no mobility and no freak show attraction like Khali or Gonzalez. He didn't even make for an interesting jobber, he was just 'there' with the lameduck played out Russian gimmick and lost all the time in horrible matches because he couldn't sell any offence from his opponents convincingly.
ReplyDeleteELEVATED LIVER ENZYMES!
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Sons talent levels:
ReplyDeleteMike Graham
Greg Gagne
Erik Watts
George Gulas (allegedly)
rough approximation.
Uh, bullshit. Nash has a ***** match and like three or four **** matches. How many of those does Hogan have?
ReplyDeleteThat's ALL on Sprules, who by the way I've spoken to online and can confirm to be a complete prat.
ReplyDeleteGeorge sure as hell couldn't cut a promo either.
ReplyDeleteHere's a great example of his talking skills (or lackthereof): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcNMh6inNS4
Worst wrestler I've ever seen....hmmm, a lot of contenders but I'm going to pick "Dynamite" Keith Watkins.
ReplyDeleteHis team with Daffney and Crowbar was awesome.
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