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2013 Scott Sez…Heroes of Wrestling

The Netcop Rant for the "Heroes of Wrestling", a one-time-only (oh lord let that be true) so-called PPV that I wasted $19.95 on due to a long story that I don't wanna get into. Thankfully, I made sure to stock up on alcoholic beverages before the show, and BOY did I need them.  (Rather ironic that I would rag on Jake Roberts for his behavior while getting wasted myself.) 

First of all, the pre-game show looks like it was edited on a Video Toaster, with jump cuts so sudden that I think some poor editor down in Mississippi is suffering from whiplash as we speak. (Oh, the Amiga computer, still good for cheapshots years later.)  We get some various BAD angles to set up the show, including George Steele & Sherri Martell getting caught in a secret tryst, Bob Orton cheating at poker, and Tully Blanchard getting shoved into a trunk by Stan Lane. I don't know who I pity more, btw - Sherri or George. Not a promising start.

Live from Bay Saint something, Mississippi. I didn't quite catch the name of the town where the casino we're coming from is, and I hadn't heard of it at any rate.

Your hosts are Dutch Mantell and some dufus named Randy Rosenbloom, not Gordon Solie as was triumphantly advertised leading up to the show. He wouldn't make so much as an appearance.  (Gordon wasn’t long for the world, sadly.) 

The arena is announced as 2,000 SRO, (Standing Room Only or Sold Right Out depending on who you ask.)  but they're lucky if there's 600 people there, and the lights are so dim you can only see the first five rows anyway. A big banner for the casino sits on the ring apron, and I won't dignify it by reprinting the casino's phone number here.  (An indy doing 600 people these days isn’t that bad, especially for a nostalgia group like this one.) 

Opening match: The Samoan Swat Team v. Marty Jannetty & Tommy Rogers.

First of all, Fatu looks like Yokozuna, with his ass taking up most of the camera whenever he's on. Seriously, he's just that fat. (This was of course written in 1999, just before he went back to the WWF as Rikishi.  So that’s at least one person who got a job out of this.)  And it's not like he's been retired for the past few years or anything. The SST is managed by some Paul E. wannabe goof. Jannetty (who is looking like a crack addict) has let his hair grow back since his WCW stint last year. (He looks even worse these days. And the crack addict thing might not be far off given his habits at the time.)  Stall session to start, with Jannetty taking control once Samu gets in. Jannetty is blowing moves left and right and missing his cues, which would indicate either drugs or alcohol tonight. Of course, had I known what was in store, I'd have counted my blessings for Jannetty at least being coherent. Stay tuned, folks. Lots of arm-working from the Fantastic Rockers, for lack of a better name. First chinlock of the show comes at 8:15 EST. Expect more. Inevitably, Fabu's HUGE ASS overcomes Marty and he plays Ricky Morton. Speaking of Ricky, the RnR would seem to be a perfect fit for this show - I wonder why they're not on it? (Because even Ricky Morton has standards?) Jannetty takes a chairshot and the announcer declares it "obscene" and "unethical". No shit. Where did they dig this dipshit up? Rogers gets the hot tag, but tries to headbutt the Samoans and gets nowhere. Jannetty and Rogers double-team the SST, with Jannetty hitting a plancha on Fatu, but that leaves Rogers alone with Samu. Samu hits a pretty good TKO and gets the easy pin at 9:51. Nothing special here. 1/2*  Did I mention how bad lead commentator Randy Rosenbloom is, calling a simple dropkick a "legdrop" and other things equally ridiculous? Thank god Dutch was there to cover for him.

Greg "The Hammer" Valentine v. George "The Animal" Steele.

George has Sherri with him. It occurs to me that given the choices, George is smarter to eat the turnbuckle than to eat…oh, never mind. George starts to remove his shirt, and Hammer jumps him. Sherri attacks as well, thus throwing the subtlety card right out of the window. But George can't see the betrayal, because the shirt is over his head. Plus he's really stupid. Steele finds an international object and hits Greg with it, then hands it off to Sherri for safe-keeping. Sherri hands it right to Greg, who plays "Hide the object" for a bit, and then Sherri turns on George outright, nailing him with a chair and giving Valentine the win at 6:31. Hey, our first negative star match of the night! –***  (The booking and the matchmaking was just bizarre here.  Valentine was still doing regular indy shots at this point and could have worked a totally acceptable match with someone like Tully Blanchard.) 

Julio Fantastico (Sanchez) v. 2 Cold Scorpio.

I have no idea why they even bothered with this one. 2CS has a WCW World title knockoff with him, which is never mentioned by the announcers. Captain Lou Albano comes out to do rambling commentary. Decent, but awkward wrestling sequence to start. Julio ends up on the floor and Scorp follows with a pescado. Now it's Julio's turn, as he blows a pescado and ends with a skin-the-cat type thing, then decides to REDO THE SPOT (Ugh!) and hits it better on the second try. Sure sign of a jobber 4 life right there. NEVER REDO THE SPOT! He does take a nice backdrop over the railing into the crowd. Back in the ring and then a very ugly sequence begins, with the end result being a legdrop from Scorpio and a badly blown Tumbleweed to finish it at 9:48. Hey, if you're gonna do a spotfest, HIT THE DAMN SPOTS! *  (Julio never ended up doing anything in the business anyway.) 

The Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff v. The Artists Formerly Known as the Bushwhackers.

The heels have some goof named Nikita Brezhnikov in their corner, who does a bad Russian accent and wears what looks like a Cossack uniform and waves a USSR flag. Geez, read the news once in a while, guys. We get the Russian national anthem (short form version) and the Iranian club demonstration, for old (and I mean OLD) time's sake. Thankfully, I'm on my third drink by this time and I'm getting pleasantly detached from the living room. Ssssssssssssss tttttttttttt aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll. The old, wrinkly, Volkoff beats on Luke to control, although there's six inches of air between Luke and the bottom of Nikolai's boot on every kick. Sheik comes in and gives Luke what can only be generously described as a lovetap, and Luke sells a throat injury like Steamboat. Yeargh. The heels are working so loose they might as well stand in the aisle and kick them from there. It'd look more believable. Seriously, this is just SO sad. Butch finally gets the hot tag, and heel miscommunication involving the wrong person getting hit with an international object gives Butch the pin at 8:45. Oh. My. God. –****  (That’s actually a generous rating given Meltzer’s famous demolition of the match in the Observer.  This is where I would have stuck George Steele, by the way.  Steele & Bushwackers v. Sheik/Volkoff/some other geek at least confines the major suck to one bad comedy match.) 

Stan Lane v. Tully Blanchard.

Both guys look pretty good, age and layoff time considered. Pretty nice start with Tully taking a bump into the post early, and Lane gets a neckbreaker and a cobra clutch. Russian legsweep gets two. They hit the floor and Tully puts a figure-four on him on the floor. Lane is playing the heel but Tully is drawing the heel heat for some reason. Lane is also sporting the Chris Candido hairstyle. Anyway, back in the ring and after a brief bit involving a sleeper, we get the stupidest ending in wrestling, the "belly-to-back suplex and one guy lifts his shoulder" double pin. In this case, Tully gets the shoulder up first and wins at 7:12. Well, they tried, I guess. 1/2*  (Much like getting the gold medal at the Special Olympics…)

Who in god's name is booking this crap? I mean, the double pin spot? I know this is supposed to be nostalgic, but let's at least get past 1985 in the booking, PLEASE! Do an nWo run-in and get it up to 1997 or something…

One Man Gang v. Abdullah the Butcher.

Both guys bleed. Both are counted out at 7:29. There's your match highlights. Oh, those and Abby swiping the blade over his forehead every five seconds with a camera focusing on his head. Almost forgot about that one. –*** (Hopefully Gang didn’t get Hepatitis from this match.)  What's the point of doing a non-conclusive ending to a one-time-only match? To protect the reputation of two semi-retired wrestlers?  (I think their reputation was long gone by this point anyway.  OMG could have teamed with Sheik and Volkoff, I think.) 

"Cowboy" Bob Orton v. Jimmy Snuka.

I'm on drink #4 by this point, so it's gonna be hard to faze me. (These days I stop after one.  Just doesn’t interest me anymore.)  Snuka gets a quick two off a cross-body, but Orton takes control with a cheapshot. A suplex into the ring and a kneedrop gets two. Orton is moving slow, but he's pacing himself nicely and doing his usual great job of working the mat. He works one armbar in particular for quite a long time. (Like father, like son.)  Dutch is doing an absolutely spectacular job of selling the armbar for the fans at home, because Randy Rosenbloom has no idea what the hell is going on, in terms of the psychology. The fans invent increasingly crude taunts for Bob during the armbar, leading to the epic "Bob is a faggot! (clap clap clap-clap-clap) in D-Minor" to close out the armbar.  (Clearly we know he reproduced, so they’re probably off-base in their criticisms of his sexuality.  I don’t think Snuka ever had any children, though.)  Snuka comes back with the usual, and they do a double-KO with Orton falling on top for two. Snuka recovers and heads to the top, but Orton tries to reverse to a superplex. Lou Albano grabs Snuka's ankles to stop the move, and Snuka hits a bodypress off the top for the pin at 11:42. Match of the night, at a whopping *1/4

And now…THE FUN PART!

During the night, the wrestlers have been cutting various pre-match promos with some Pettingill-ish clone backstage, with nothing of note being said. Then comes Jake Roberts. The promo itself was unexceptional. No, what was so memorable was the fact that he was PLASTERED. I mean, he was literally so stinking, falling down drunk off his fat ass that he could hardly string together a sentence, and in fact needed to grab onto the interviewer to keep from falling over. The interviewer looked SERIOUSLY freaked at having Jake hanging on him, with the snake crawling around in it's bag on the floor.

(Let’s GO TO THE YOUTUBES!)

And then the match…

Jake "The Snake" Roberts v. Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart.

PLEASE let it be quick, that's all I ask. (Dozens of young wrestlers also thought the same thing before trips into the shower with JBL.)  Jake is literally STAGGERING down the aisle on the way to the ring. He tosses Damien into the corner, then staggers back to the dressing room, takes his shirt off, and staggers back. Poor Neidhart has no idea what to make of the situation. (I’m guessing “This guy is almost as fucked up as my wife!”) Jake hits on a couple of ugly chicks in the front row, then rolls in and we're underway. Anvil literally does all the work, physically carrying Jake through the "match" so he doesn't' fall over and puke all over the ring. Damien wriggles free of the bag, so Jake pulls him out and makes uses it as a surrogate penis, waving it around the ring while protruding from his crotch, pointing towards women in the front row. And there's KIDS in the audience, all over the place. I think Jake can finally kiss his wrestling career goodbye, for good this time. And now obviously someone in the back realizes this is getting out of hand, so King Kong Bundy comes out to run interference. Anvil puts Jake in a long chinlock, and looks to be bitching him out while there. Jake goes for the DDT, but he can't get the spot quite right, so Bundy runs in for a 2-on-1. Yokozuna makes the save, and it's turned into a tag match. Jake takes a couple of chairshots from Neidhart to hopefully make him stay on the floor, but he rolls back in and Bundy gets a two count. Jake hasn't even bothered to lace his boots, and when Neidhart pulls on his foot to stop a tag, the boot comes free. Jake makes the hot tag to Yoko, but about 2 seconds later Bundy splashes and pins Jake (the illegal man) for the pin to end the whole fiasco. Jake and Yoko beat up Bundy's manager, and the show is hastily yanked from the air 15 minutes early without so much as a goodbye from the announce team. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is your Worst Match of the Year, hands down. -***** I suppose it would be harsh of me to wish Jake would just choke on his own vomit one night and spare us all ever watching him ruin his life or the lives of the people that care about him ever again, but at the rate he's going he's probably not far off.  (I’m continually amazed that 15 years after this, he’s still alive.) 

The Bottom Line:

You may have noticed that we didn't get the advertised main event, or even Yokozuna or Bundy wrestling for more than 5 seconds each. Leave it to Jake to ruin an entire show for everyone. Not that there was much there to ruin. Easily the worst PPV I've ever seen, and that includes a lot. I don't know how these morons got a PPV deal in the first place, but since the buyrate is likely to be somewhere between 0.00000005 and 0.1 (if they're lucky) I doubt we'll have to worry about seeing this abortion stink up our TV screens ever again.

If there was a rating even lower than thumbs down I'd give it. If you want nostalgia, watch WCW. You might even see a wrestling match there by accident, too.

(Given the people involved, here’s the matches I would have booked instead:

Stan Lane & Marty Jannetty v. Scorpio & Tommy Rogers

George Steele & The Bushwackers v. Samoan Swat Team & Yokozuna

King Kong Bundy v. One Man Gang

Bob Orton & Greg Valentine v. Jimmy Snuka & Jim Neidhart

Main event: Jake Roberts v. Tully Blanchard

I dunno, still not great, but I’m big fan of disguising weakness with tag matches.  This would also presume that Roberts wasn’t shitfaced going into the show, and that he and Tully could do promos leading up to it. 

Comments

  1. The AWE PPV is on Netflix. You should enjoy Nash vs Gibson

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  2. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Fuck yeah, we need more Scott Sez or shitty shows. Do I-Generation next, Scott!

    "Live from Bay Saint something, Mississippi."

    Bay Saint Louis, MS, which is a long way away from the city of Saint Louis. IIRC this show was held at Casino Magic, which also hosted the UFC that was supposed to be in Buffalo but had to be moved because NY state banned MMA (a ban which still exists today, though it will probably be overturned in a year or two) the night before the show. I might be wrong on the last part, but I'm 100% sure that this arena hosted an early UFC.

    "Oh. My. God. –**** (That’s actually a generous rating given Meltzer’s famous demolition of the match in the Observer."



    I remember someone (might have been Meltzer) calling it "as many negative stars are there are stars in the universe, and the universe is infinite!" Though "Oh. My. God." gets the point across equally well.

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  3. Love ya Scott, but can I ask why of all shows this is the one you picked for Scott Sez?

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  4. Can't find it. What should I search for?

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  5. Yep. It's along the Gulf Coast, about 50 miles east of New Orleans. My wife and I have made weekend trips to Biloxi a few times this year, and we drive along the Gulf Coast to get there, passing through Bay St. Louis (US-90 is such a beautiful drive once you leave NOLA). The casino is long gone, not sure if Hurricane Katrina or this shitty PPV sunk it, but I keep looking for billboards along the drive to Biloxi, hoping there's still some Cajun money mark out there who would dare try another Heroes of Wrestling PPV

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  6. I think someone asked for it the other day.

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  7. "Snuka didn't have any children, though."


    It may shock you to learn that Tamina, the "She-sel" to AJ Lee's Shawn Michaels is Jimmy Snuka's daughter.

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  8. NO. FUCKING. WAY.


    You'd think someone – anyone – would mention this once in a while on commentary. Michael Cole, perhaps.

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  9. I know! It blows my mind!

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  10. Its probably in the horror section.

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  11. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 4:52 PM

    Fun fact: this show did 29,000 buys. Which is (probably, I'm too lazy to look it up) more than any TNA PPV did.

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  12. Threadjack:


    McCarron may have won the Heisman. 99 yd TD pass to take a 28-21 lead over Auburn. Then Auburn fucks up a 4th and 1 from their own 36 by trying cute.


    Also, TNA may be the most "relevant" it has ever been: AJ Styles theme just played for a Survivor commercial on CBS. And 99.99% of the people seeing that commercial had no clue it is a wrestling theme on the side.

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  13. It pops up when I search for WWE stuff… like I click on a title and then the screen says, "if you like this…" and it will be among those choices.

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  14. It became Hollywood Casino IIRC... (Hollywood was a fave of my parents while my dad's parents were still alive)

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  15. Gotcha. Not hating on it, it's just such a random choice of show...

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  16. Yea, I got big money on the Bama over tease. If he wins the heisman it'll be a "lifetine achievement" award. Not saying it's undeserved...

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  17. Auburn with the BALLS STOP on 4th and 1 from their own 15... Bama's kicker costing his team (0-2 today, no faith apparently on this one.)

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  18. I've never heard that. Can you tell me how to install the wwe app?

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  19. First you need a vintage phone.


    STEAL it!

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  20. Maybe you can't find it because it's on US Netflix and Not Canadian?

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  21. Gotcha. I'll steal one from Zach Morris.

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  22. *forced laughter*

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  23. You gotta figure there was a time a few years ago (before WWE signed everybody they might even consider using one day) that someone could've booked an indy supercard that would do close to that number. Especially if they brought in some puro guys.

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  24. Stranger in the AlpsNovember 30, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

    I did not request this, by the way, but I have in the past. I liken it to a really bad date. You know you went through with it, you tried to forget about it, but once in a while you like to think about it and laugh.

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  25. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 5:11 PM

    I think Barely Legal did about 100,000 or so, which is fucking insane when you consider that only 1 PPV company (and DirecTV) carried it. I doubt ROH has has 100,000 buys with all thier PPVs combined.

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  26. HOLY FUCK. And we are TIED at 28 with :32 left

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  27. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 5:16 PM

    I've said this before, but I feel Scott's best work is when he rants on garbage shows. Anyone can describe a match and give it a star rating (hell, I've done it), but his talent lies in just fucking BURYING terrible shows. I want to see him Scott Sez the entire Kindle book of Worst PPVs ever.

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  28. I dont disagree. I enjoy all his rants but the real snarky stuff is pretty amusing. This was just such a random choice I figured there must have been a reason he picked it

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  29. These Auburn games in November.. Amazing..

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  30. I don't care what pundits say, the SEC is by FAR the best conference out there. I'd seriously be ok if they picked the top 2 SEC teams to play for the title Every year

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  31. And it's up to the redshirt freshman..

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  32. OH MY GOD. If this stands, this is the PLAY OF THE FUCKING YEAR.

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  33. That is one of the greatest endings I've ever seen to anything. Stupid decision Saban

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  34. Scott has a point, for as awful as this show was, it really didn't have to be this bad as back in 1999 a lot of the veterans weren't that old and could still go. Plus the whole Legends PPV concept is a pretty neat idea and had this been a good show, they could of had an annual PPV event.

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  35. If Bama's gonna lose the National title, why not like that?

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  36. Only ending I remember that's close is the LSU/UK hail mary.

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  37. Because they're still a top 2 team and they won't get to play in the title game

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  38. Ummm, Auburn/UGA last week with a 78 pass on 4th and 18 with 30 seconds left.

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  39. This was better. Much better imo

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  40. This was better. LSU/Kentucky was not. Not close.

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  41. Hey Saban, next time let the fucking second stay off the clock. HAHAHA!


    And Auburn's only loss this year? LSU. Makes 9-3 feel a little more acceptable.

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  42. It was Awesome Wreatling Entertainment: Night of Legends.

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  43. Rematch for the National title?

    Seems as good a way as any to kill off the BCS.

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  44. OSU would kick all their asses.

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  45. Sure... and there's a cure for cancer right around the corner if we keep buying pink shit and sending more money to Susan G. Komen.

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  46. So...if Auburn and OSU lose next week, does Alabama play for the National title without even finishing in the top 2 of its own conference?

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  47. College football is so rad. Say what you want about the BCS, but it sure makes the games matter. The ones in November anyway.

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  48. What about The Game?

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  49. Missouri would jump Bama with the win.


    FSU/Auburn or FSU/Mizzou? I'm down with that.

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  50. Why would buy pink shit when you could buy Pepto Bismal and make it yourself?

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  51. When Jim Neidhart is the sober one dragging someone through a match then something is seriously wrong.

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  52. Seriously? FSU/Mizzou woyld. E the biggest farce of the BCS. Put Bama on the field vs any team right now and they're ten point favorites

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  53. But I don't wanna be a Doors fan.

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  54. I'm shocked that 2013 Scott was able to use the word "ironic" correctly.

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  55. I'd rather have meaningful playoff games then cool November games

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  56. Honestly, I think a show like this could still be decent today. You also have the advantage of the Internet to allow you to shoot promos and upload them to YouTube as a way of hyping the show and building up to specific matches.

    Hypothetical time: If you had to book a Legends of Wrestling II PPV using today's crop of washed-up drug addicts and sideshow attractions masquerading as genuine legends, who would you book and what would be the finish to each match?

    Marty Jannetty & John Morrison (aka The Marty Jannettys) vs. The Headbangers - The Marty Jannettys

    Al Snow vs. Norman Smiley in a Hardcore Match(assuming WWE permission to work the show, if not, then sub Terry Funk) - Snow
    Honky Tonk Man & Greg Valentine vs. Raven & Stevie - Double DQ after Raven & HTM turn on their partners and decide they should become allies, turns match into:
    HTM & Raven vs. Greg Valentine & Stevie - HTM & Raven after shenanigans
    Fatu vs. Val Venis - Fatu
    Vader vs. Disco Inferno/Glen Gilbertti- Vader in a short comedy squash match to make Vader look vicious after Disco cuts a promo about how he's a true legend and issues an open challenge
    2 Cold Scorpio vs. Lance Storm vs. Taka Michinoku - Storm in what will probably be the only "good" match of the night
    Kevin Nash & Sean Waltman (w/ Scott Hall as manager) vs. Scott & Rick Steiner - Wolfpac after Hall interference, Steiners run them off with chairs to get their heat back
    Beth Phoenix & Madusa vs. Mickie James & Victoria - Beth & Madusa in the obligatory piss break match
    Warrior vs. Sid - Warrior via DQ when Vader runs in to reunite the Masters of the Powerbomb, show closes on a Sting appearance to save Warrior (assuming you can work a deal with TNA, otherwise Warrior powers up and runs them both off)

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  57. That wasn't Rikishi. It was Samu and the Tonga Kid

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  58. Its not that random. This show has a huge legacy/cult following type thing due how literally offensive it is.

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  59. Stealing is illegal... I had better create separation between us.

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  60. SHough 610 > Parallax 1978

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  61. ...at the husband that is still with that bitch.


    What we aren't playing finish the sentence?

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  62. DAMN IT DAMN IT OFFICEFARVA HAS SCREWED PARALLAX! SON OF A BITCH NOT THIS WAY!!!


    I got some clarification on that... apparently Shough is under the impression that mickfoley is actually me. But he is wrong... or IS he?

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  63. "You got 21, I got 22" - best line ever.

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  64. This is getting WAY to complicated for me to care. Just don't go full NPP and we're good

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  65. How the hell do you get negative votes in both directions?

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  66. Lyle "Chip" ChippersonNovember 30, 2013 at 6:16 PM

    Scott was fucking zooted when he watched this. Now he's pulling zingers out left and right! Home run, Kietherson! tss tss

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  67. "Just don't go full NPP and we're good"


    I don't even know what that means... but glad to know that being "good" with you has boundaries.


    And yes it really isn't very entertaining... I was hoping my first scandal would be Clinton/Lewinsky in nature... this is barely .3 on that scale.

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  68. zooted is a thing that people say?

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  69. I have standards mofo!!!!! Not that I've ever been there but I meant people who post exclusively/majority at npp lose all credibility/respecr to officerfarva.

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  70. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    Only time I've ever heard "zooted" was in New Jack City, Wesley Snipes says it when he's talking about being all fucked up on PCP.

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  71. Where's Meekin with our QOTD?

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  72. He also said he had Aces & Eights, but they never showed up.

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  73. What if FSU also lost?

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  74. Chip sounds like a child's name, kinda like Six Costanza

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  75. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    He's been MIA ever since he suggested that Wes Welker would kill his kid. Which was pretty stupid, I mean, does Welker even have any kids?

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  76. So its one of those words that white guys should never say? Like bling?

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  77. I mean, dorky white dudes usually do take their cultural references for hip from black pop culture a decade or two behind the times.

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  78. It was a REALLY poorly written question but I didn't get the bscklash. His point was valid IMO.

    I miss the old "favorite action move scene" QOTD. Simple man, no thinking required question

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  79. The Crying Game. That was always my answer.

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  80. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 6:27 PM

    There's a lot of words that white guys shouldn't say, "bling" and "zooted" are pretty far down the list. At the top is any white guy adding "-izzle" or "izznit" to any other word.

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  81. Expendable 2 ALWAYS worked also

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  82. ***paging HB Shizzle***

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  83. Personally, I was also a big fan of Million Dollar Baby. Such an action-packed boxing film, like Rocky but with better fight scenes.

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  84. Lyle "Chip" ChippersonNovember 30, 2013 at 6:32 PM

    I learned it from Lamar. He helps my mother around the house with things. My mother is a very rubenesque woman.

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  85. What else does Lamar say?

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  86. The English Patient. Tell me what you think about The English Patient.

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  87. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM

    I thought the fight scenes in Rocky Balboa were amazing. Of course, it helped that they (a): hired a real boxer and pretty much told him to just play himself, and (b): shot the fight like HBO would shoot a real fight, instead of shooting it like you normally would for a movie.

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  88. God, sardonic humor does not work on the Internet unless you bludgeon people with it.

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  89. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 6:40 PM

    I would tell you what I think of it, but last time I said anything about it nearly got me fired.

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  90. So we should expect Vince to make sure everyone on the roster says "zooted" in Monday's script?

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  91. Is he coming back or is someone taking it over?

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  92. Is there going to be a Saturday Night thread, I wanna mark out of that Bama/Auburn ending.


    HOLY CRAP!

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  93. OSU isn't losing.

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  94. That was insane. Michigan going for 2 was also ridiculous.

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  95. No idea man. Last I saw from him was the Welker thread.

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  96. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryNovember 30, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    More like Hillary Skan... nah, I like to think I'm above cheap humor like that, plus she's a pretty good actress.

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  97. Speaking of standards you never told me what you were doing that wouldn't live up to mine...

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  98. Stranger in the AlpsNovember 30, 2013 at 7:10 PM

    There's a Saturday night thread up for those interested.

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  99. My pepto must be bad because it turns mine black.

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  100. You can "prove" anything if you're gonna use facts.

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  101. 2+2=4

    Therefore, you're wrong.

    qed

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  102. But you can't really call what they do "winning"

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  103. "Look at the size of that thing" - rosenbloom

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  104. Sign me up for Warrior vs. Sid. The promos would be fucking GOLD and you would close out the show with a -***** match, which would be perfectly fitting.

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  105. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryNovember 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    It was weird to see a Rocky fight where the fighters actually block.

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  106. Jake Roberts puts asses in the seats and is a draw.



    After seeing this when it was originally broadcasted(free of course, thank you Directv football card) I wouldve paid for a Heroes II if Jake was headlining again, hell I would have paid for his first couple rounds at the bar.....

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  107. Still more entertaining than quite a few Raw episodes in 2013....

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  108. I'm not sure what them being favorites has to do with anything. Results matter.

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  109. You didn't watch this week.

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  110. Also, the fact that they try to start feuds and give the wrestlers reasons to dislike each other at the top of the card is a step above many matches on Raw in 2013.

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  111. Was that ECW's biggest PPV buy-rate wise? It seems they peaked then, with everyone supporting the first PPV and slowly filtering out.

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