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CM Punk Update
Punk sent out a tweet on Saturday that had some fans believe he was retiring soon. According to Mike Johnson from PWInsider.com, no one in the company is under the belief that Punk is retiring. His contract is set to expire at some point in the Summer of 2014, as Punk signed a three-year extension in 2011.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
WWE.com Article on " 15 Superstars That Should Have Been Bigger Deals."
http://www.wwe.com/classics/classic-lists/15-superstars-who-shouldve-been-bigger-deals
http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2013-12-30/five-point-preview-26172827
CM Punk Update
Punk sent out a tweet on Saturday that had some fans believe he was retiring soon. According to Mike Johnson from PWInsider.com, no one in the company is under the belief that Punk is retiring. His contract is set to expire at some point in the Summer of 2014, as Punk signed a three-year extension in 2011.
Credit Mike Johnson, PWInsider.com
WWE.com Article on " 15 Superstars That Should Have Been Bigger Deals."
http://www.wwe.com/classics/classic-lists/15-superstars-who-shouldve-been-bigger-deals
"The bald-headed [Saturn] caused shockwaves when he left WCW for WWE alongside Dean Malenko and Eddie Guerrero as part of a famous defection."
ReplyDeleteOh, come on!
Were you expecting them to actually say the B word?
ReplyDeleteI think Punk has enough money that he'd be content with a Legends contract. I think he'd take one more run on top in order to put over some up and comer at the end of a story and then go the Jericho route.
ReplyDeleteSix months of touring, Six months off to heal. Easy, breezy.
Remember reading Meltzer (or keller, I forget who I was subscribed to at the time) and they were saying that the wwe actually saw Saturn as the guy with the most potential drawing ability out of all of them.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think he will stick around until he gets to close out a 'Mania, or it becomes evident he will never get to... I think I remember reading that is the only thing he has left that he wants to accomplish.
ReplyDeleteAnd if Saturn wasn't ten (or more) kinds of fucked up, he might have become a solid player. Maybe not main event, but upper midcard.
ReplyDeleteAny truth to the Brock Lesnar rumours tonight?
ReplyDeleteRAW: Big Show dressed as a baby. NO WATCH.
ReplyDeletePunk: Is there anyone he doesn't play, in some form or another?
Deals: I might flip through later... probably not though.
Is raw taped again tonight
ReplyDeleteI believe it's supposed to be live.
ReplyDeleteIf Punk has enough money to retire early, kudos to him. If you're set for life and can do some 1 off manias for big paydays instead of traveling 200 sone days a year, sounds like an easy choice
ReplyDeleteA third of of the people on that list are dead. Wrestling is depressing sometimes.
ReplyDeleteI guess they just taped Fridays smackdown already then. I was gonna skip it if it was taped but I might check it out now
ReplyDeleteSucks because he probably should have closed 27 and 29
ReplyDeleteI haven't seen any spoilers posted anywhere, anyway. They probably want to do it live to make sure that no one but them leaked pictures of Big Show as Baby New Year.
ReplyDelete*shudder*
Bob (Holly)?
ReplyDeleteSeriously, I remember someone reporting a long time ago that Dean was on one of the Wrestling Roundtable shows on Classics on Demand, and he recalls when "the three of us" left WCW. Did this really happen?
Haven't heard those. My inclination is to say no. Logic: if Lesnar/Batista is really a thing, it'd make more sense to have Batista debut then bring back Lesnar tto set up their feud. If Lesnar returns first, he's kinda directionless until Batista comes back, hence you're just wasting an appearance
ReplyDeleteBecause "because he didn't say hi to Droz," "Undertaker thought he couldn't work," and a zillion honest references to WWF/E booking are less interesting reads.
ReplyDeleteOr you just have the fun random instances of Brock killing dudes until Batista comes back to say, "hey, knock it off."
ReplyDeleteBut that probably means no "Hollywood" Batista.
Article says Batista isn't coming back until Jan 20. I don't get this company sometimes.
ReplyDeleteClearly Punk is more in Jericho / RVD / Batista territory and would have to come back for a little run. I can't see Vince shelling out 6 figures to him for one match at Wrestlemania.
ReplyDeleteDavey Boy main-evented multiple PPVs and was a huge draw in his own country. I'm not saying that makes him a megastar, but for someone who was so good-hearted (yet naive and at times limited,) I'd say he carved out an excellent career for himself.
ReplyDeleteFair play to them really. Would you want to associate yourself with Benoit if you didn't have to?
ReplyDeleteSaturn did have a certain 'it' factor. He was decent in the ring (if not quite as good as the other Radicalz) and looked good. He was still a little small by WWE standards, and of course his career was never the same after beating the crap out of that jobber.
ReplyDeleteI remember early on in Goldberg's streak, as part of the build leading up to him winning the U.S. title from Raven - there was a RAW (or Thunder) where Goldberg plowed his way through the Flock and then had a stare-down with Saturn. The crowd just went nuts.
Considering Eddie was just a big star as Benoit was, it'd be really easy to rewrite history by putting Eddie over as the leader.
ReplyDeleteThey could just as well call that article "a bunch of people we f'ed up with."
ReplyDeletePeople are convinced that because he got to hold the belt while Cena and The Rock were setting up their year-long angle, he's some massive megastar who brought wrestling back to the mainstream and captivated audiences worldwide with his innate charisma. It's baffling.
ReplyDeleteDavey Boy was not good hearted. He was a nasty bastard.
ReplyDeletePretty sure that list has been up before.
ReplyDeleteNo idea, but I would totally get it. It's not like Benoit's a beloved friend who crossed the wrong guy and ended up excommunicated and erased from hostory.
ReplyDeleteIf one of my best friends killed his wife and kid before hanging himself, I'd kind of erase him from my life and memories as best I could.
I'm not sure why he was included, he had a long successful North American run. The only thing he is missing is a World Title reign.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. You see Davey Boy pop up on these lists every now and then. The Bulldog had a better career than 99% of those who ever laced up the boots. Not having a world title reign--especially in his time--does not mean "unsuccessful."
ReplyDeletePunk has sold a shit ton of merch and seems like he's a very conservative spender. On an espn podcast right after the pipebomb, he was asked if he was set for life. He said he didn't like talking about it, but yes, he was set for life. I don't think he needs the money at this point, so I don't see him doing any long runs unless he wants to.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Saturn had a certain X Factor to him. He had a chance to be a TV/US title kind of guy.
ReplyDeleteHe was just bizarre.
ReplyDeleteThe 2 guys I think should have been huge stars are always Monty Brown and Hayabusa.
ReplyDeleteMonty Brown had it all - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEqEas9hUAI
And he was going to win the Intercontinental championship at SummerSlam 1992 whether he wanted to or not!
ReplyDeleteAre you kidding? Seeing those words on a WWE-sponsored list would be a fantastic read!
ReplyDeletewell, according to rumors, people should probably avoid making open challenges tonight...
ReplyDeleteDepends on how his last few months go. I think he's hottest now as a face as he has ever been.
ReplyDeleteI don't think anyone in this thread has had that assertion. All that was said is he's probably set for life and how could come bback for some 1 off programs and matches and make some money doing it
ReplyDeleteYeah, apparently he has lived in the same apartment this whole time and on his "little" DVD when he talked about the bus he bought to travel in he really seemed like he felt guilty about it... so I am guessing he is very thrifty and could find enough other interests to give him steady cash flow so that he wouldn't have to wrestle if he didn't want to... but he probably doesn't have Cena/Rock( wrestling)/Austin money.
ReplyDeleteNo one in this thread... or anywhere that I have ever seen has said that..
ReplyDeleteYou just want to pass cultstatus ASAP
ReplyDeleteThe divas? At this point they must know they are a hit it and quit it.
ReplyDeleteI haven't heard Lesnar/Batista rumors... where did that come from?
ReplyDeleteThere go my plans!
ReplyDeleteWhat did he do at 27? Was that the Orton match?
ReplyDeleteYea, that was a Simmons podcast iirc. He talked about being content just chilling in Chicago on his couch for awhile
ReplyDeleteTHERE ISN'T ANY PROOF /Dustin Harris
ReplyDeleteI seriously doubt it was a RAW
ReplyDeleteHe's the biggest star in the company other than Cena
ReplyDeleteBayless had it up for 2 days in a row as being "reported" by Meltzer and Johnson IIRC. We all know and how these WM "reports" go though...
ReplyDeleteNot where I was going with it... but Bravo.
ReplyDeleteI can't keep up. I thought we had him winning the Rumble and Lesnar/Taker written in stone.
ReplyDeleteMarcus Cor Von = WWE once again flushing some money down the drain.
ReplyDeleteThat would admit falliability in the WWE office/Creative... yeah, right. Might as well ask a blow-up doll to come to life.
ReplyDeleteI'd say over half of his assholishness comes from Dynamite... Or was he involved in shit once he went solo.
ReplyDeleteAgreed, it seems like the only thing he spends a lot of money on is comic books. I don't think he has Cena money either, but I definitely think he's a millionaire and could continue living his lifestyle for the rest of his life without working if he wanted.
ReplyDeleteNot definitively, no. I haven't seen enough to damn the guy to hell because I don't know for certain what happened and neither do you.
ReplyDeleteUnless you're putting Punk in Miz's spot at 27 (with the title and all), no, that should not have closed the show.
ReplyDeleteSome of these "stars" weren't bigger because the WWE didn't make them that way. How do you have Raven on your roster and not let him be Raven?
ReplyDeleteIt was all a set up by HBK, who was jealous after Benoit won the belt back at WM XX. Think about it, this explains the bibles perfectly. Also there were several unexplained footprints in the corner of the room (HBK was likely tuning up the band.)
ReplyDeleteSo are you saying death stopped their push? The Undertaker and Katie Vick beg to differ.
ReplyDeleteHe left to take care of his sister's kids
ReplyDeleteYou are right. Just checked the date of the article and it is from March. It was featured on the front page today, oddly enough.
ReplyDeleteDo you also believe in the following:
ReplyDelete9/11 was an inside job
FDR knew about Pearl Harbor well before and said nothing
The "New World Order" is more than just Hogan, Nash, Hall, and friends.
Obama was born in Kenya
TWA Flight 800 was shot down by a prototype weapon
If not, there is hope. If so... good luck with the paranoia.
Do you keep your "Dumbest Man Alive" award in a closest somewhere, or do you display it prominently in your home, like on the fire place mantle?
ReplyDeleteWho is convinced that this is the case?
ReplyDeleteNo Neck 'Roid Monkeys FTW.
ReplyDelete"WHO THE FUCK HIRED RAVEN?!"
ReplyDelete(One guess who allegedly said that.)
Nothing I had posted was about Lesnar and Batista facing off.
ReplyDeleteHis wife was an asshole too.
ReplyDeleteNo nothing like that. Just depressing to see... apparently my downvoter agrees.
ReplyDeleteI didn't think so
ReplyDeleteYeah, that Steph sure was an asshole.
ReplyDelete(BZZT!)
ReplyDeleteIncorrect, minus 200.
*snaps fingers and has a servant that looks like Tessmacher hop up on the table and dance for Parallax*
ReplyDeleteThe perks of the top 5.
The rumor was Vince didn't like Raven because he used to hang out with Shane and they got fucked up together.
ReplyDeleteLIAR! No, your right. It was in one of Scotts threads about a WM lineup
ReplyDeleteYES>
ReplyDelete*Adjusts aluminum foil hat*
Did not think "dance" was the verb you were gonna go with there...
ReplyDeleteApparently you don't watch rap videos much.
ReplyDeleteThey didn't do much with him before he left. Not calling him Monty Brown was a huge mistake, he was completely homogenized by the WWE. Konnan said TNA management was racist and wouldn't go all the way with his push. What a waste of a great talent.
ReplyDeleteI always thought the Rooster could have actually been something. But he seemed so embarrassed by the gimmick. If he had just shaved his head and had an actual big red mohawk and started making cock puns (In as safe a way as you can, "The ladies call me the cock of the walk for a reason" or something similar) I really do believe he would have gotten over. (I have never convinced another living soul of this but I stand by my theory.)
ReplyDeleteInstead. I distinctly remember all of my friends not understanding why he had such a stupid haircut. It's not like there weren't a lot of punks around at the time to steal costume ideas from.
To make her a Real Doll you mean?
ReplyDeleteSo,, you are saying that Alex Jones is a paranoid lunatic?
ReplyDeleteMan, the whole Hakushi thing seems cool to me. Too bad he didn't stick around longer.
ReplyDeleteAlso, apparently he teamed with Kwang in 95. The match is on YouTube against The Smoking Gunns. The match is pretty good. But what a strange pairing.
Also, remember when The Gunns were a thing?
This is tremendous entertainment. I havent witnessed this discussion. Please elaborate for me. So you dont think he did or or theres not enough evidence to prove he did it? Or was it bigfoot?
ReplyDeleteNah, about 2-3 steps further than that.
ReplyDeleteI guess... Maybe...
ReplyDelete(Don't know who he is, and likely don't care.)
Oh, it'd be easy. Hell, Jeff Hardy has purportedly never forgiven Edge and Lita for the Matt thing. Won't talk to either of them and barely acknowledges they exist. All because his little family was broken up. And that was just some slap and tickle. I wouldn't admit to hanging out with a child killing lunatic either.
ReplyDelete"To make her have sex and pleasure you" I think is what youre getting at
ReplyDeleteDid Vince just get around to watching Pinocchio?
ReplyDeleteThat finisher Monty Brown had was awful in TNA. Did he use the same one in WWE?
ReplyDeleteAnd by "pleasure him", Vince just means the doll should turn on the secret cameras at the Florida Training Center and put the feed on his big screen.
ReplyDeleteIf Smackdown spoilers are true, this company confuses me sometimes. Batista weeks in advance on a throwaway show and apparently a surprise return tonight that would have popped ratings if announced in advance. (staying vague for no spoilers types)
ReplyDeletePunk: "I was gonna challenge that new interview chick to suck my di-"
ReplyDelete**PLEASE STAND BY***
Now I'm definitely gonna be tempted to check those out.
ReplyDeleteYou forgot crystal skulls and bigfoot
ReplyDeleteI am having a really difficult time resisting the urge to play a game of Jakes Booty Call here at work...
ReplyDeleteThreadjack: has anyone else seen this? WTF. You know those Vietnamese are gonna eat it
ReplyDelete??
ReplyDeleteMy bad. Just put the link up
ReplyDeleteI don't think keeping him as Monty Brown would have made a huge difference one way or another. A small fraction of people knew him as Monty Brown before he jumped to the WWE. Cor Von was probably a stupid name, but I doubt it hurt him any more than another name would have.
ReplyDeleteFor F'ed up people: on a recent jericho podcast, him and edge were talking about the 7vs7 nexus summerslam. Both tried to convince cena it was a wrong move to do that finish with cena being supercena. They both said it basically ruined barrett to this day.
ReplyDeleteAfter looking at that vid, I still say..
ReplyDelete??
Well.. That's a thing.
ReplyDeletePunk has a "Bang" Bus.
ReplyDeleteBut to be serious, if he lives by himself and he's traveling there is no need to have a mansion, cars etc.
Raw is live, Smackdown was actually taped yesterday.
ReplyDeleteI just went with the first couple I could remember, and let Wiki do the rest.
ReplyDeleteYou know, to do the rambling anti-smark gimmick, you need someone to say something smarky first.
ReplyDeleteStam prefers the preemptive strike, it seems.
ReplyDeleteIs the Blog Of Doom just becoming synonymous for crazy internet rantings from wrestling fans? Mostly from people who don't feel comfortable posting here, I'd imagine.
ReplyDeleteIt should be synonmous with "Smart-ass Wrestling Critics, with guest stars Dougie and Jesse Baker" by now.
ReplyDeletePlease stop stealing things from NPP.
ReplyDeleteThe Pounce was mega over.
ReplyDeleteYeah I see what they're saying but I wouldn't say that was the nail in the coffin for Barrett, they've done way stupider things with him. But I'm also of the belief that Barrett is quite boring in-ring so I'm cool with his under-utilisation.
ReplyDeleteDougie. The name you can trust.
ReplyDeleteCool, what I read was that Big E mentioned him on TV (smackdown?) this week and they were bringing him back tonight for some kinda showdown. Guess we'll have to see...
ReplyDeleteI guess he would have some bad news for Y2J.
ReplyDeleteWe do know what happened. Benoit killed his wife and child and then himself.
ReplyDeleteShouldn't you be working on 9/11, the Kennedy assassination or the moon landing?
Sorry. By "less interesting" I should have said "more honest"
ReplyDeleteHe's got real estate holdings in Chicago as well; a friend of a friend works at a tattoo place in Wicker Park that rents from Punk.
ReplyDeletethanks. I'll fix it.
ReplyDeleteYes, because I could have ONLY seen this at NPP. I have never visited there in my life.
ReplyDelete... so does Jericho, at any point, explain why he treated Fandango like a jobber at Mania?
ReplyDeleteNow would this be f'ed up in the Savage/Steph (allegedly) sense?
ReplyDeleteDid I imagine Barrett headlining Survivor Series?
ReplyDeleteI hear that was the next step in the Katie Vick story.
ReplyDeleteNot only Barrett, but also Michael Tarver, David Otunga, Justin Gabriel, etc...
ReplyDeleteNo. Just some down (ECW) home drug-use
ReplyDeleteI thought I had heard something about that...
ReplyDeleteIt's just...
ReplyDeleteI don't think Jericho and Edge are wrong for thinking it was a bad finish (even if Cena selling the injury for a near count out loss, getting back in, and barely kicking out, would've been excellent), but it's weird that they're acting like Barrett wasn't still pushing to the top of the card after SS.
Granted since then he's fallen, but for a while he was one of the WWE's top heels.
yes vs orton for the title with cena as ref. if barrett lost, cena would be fired.
ReplyDeleteDo any of you ever feel like the other sites that tend to make fun of us (not so much me, I imagine, I'm a life-long JTTS here), namely NPP, are like Warren in Empire Records? The guy went around dissing the staff of the record store, but all he wanted was to be accepted as part of the group?
ReplyDeleteAlso, can we start referring to NPP as Warren?
I was being sarcastic - their exchange suggests after Summerslam he was buried.
ReplyDeleteI so botched that response... I was thinking the Summerslam 7-on-7.
ReplyDeleteDownvote away, I've earned it here.
Nah - they were still all in a main event angle. So technically you're correct; the best kind of correct.
ReplyDeleteYou just know that when they re-visit that "15 bigger deals" piece in about five years, guys like Ziggler and Ryder are going to crack that list, even though it was this company's conscious decision to cut them off at the knees. But hey, it's their own fault, right?
ReplyDeleteBecause he was booked like a comedy jobber, I'd guess.
ReplyDeleteNPP vs. Blog of Doom is a work. Scott and Scotsman are friends. Scotsman even bankrolled the BOD in the beginning. I'm just not sure if they or most of the people over here realize it.
ReplyDeleteThe Pounce was the most over finish in TNA before he left
ReplyDeleteRaven could have been a legend,his Nest in ECW as awesome,decent ring skills,had a distinct look and was superb on the mic.
ReplyDeleteNo, I realize the connection with Scotsman and the Blog, but I don't think that translates to some of the people posting on either site.
ReplyDeleteHe may well have pushed for something different and the Authority was like, no...do it this way. Hard to say, though Jericho seems pretty ok with putting new guys over.
ReplyDeleteAdmittedly if you're a guy like Jericho and they ask you, "Hey, do us a favor and put this guy over." And you say, "Sure. I'd love to help out this new guy." And after you do that, they just treat him like a joke who jobs in two seconds, you'd get upset.
I forget the timeline on the Jericho thing with Fandango, but didn't he put him over big in one of their fights? Was it just 50/50 booking?
Also he has little body area to keep getting tatoos on so hell soon start saving money that way.
ReplyDeleteActually, the Blog of Doom seems to have the more level headed posters. Wrestlezone can get a bit tedious and weird. Same with virtually every other wrestling news site I go to.
ReplyDeleteAlso...isn't there a blog which exists only to bitch about people on this blog?
Well I did see the words "Tessmacher is overrated" written here a few weeks ago...
ReplyDeleteKane gave Katie the big red push, ifyaknowwhatimsayin.
ReplyDeleteOh, I agree that the Blog seems the most level-headed. I've been coming here for about 5-6 years now and, despite some turnover with posters, Scott runs a great site with (mostly) intelligent discussion and fun commentary.
ReplyDeleteThis is pretty much the only place I post to regularly.
And that's how you do it. Start buying apartment buildings. It's usually pretty steady income. Invest at Merrill Lynch in some diversified accounts. If he had 2 million dollars at Merrill and the apartment buildings he could easily be bringing in 300,000 per year from dividends and rent alone. That doesn't include Merch and WWE income.
ReplyDeleteIt takes a chunk of money to get started, but once you have money, it's incredibly easy to keep making more from it.
I liked the Smoking Gunns, especially when they lost the goofy moustaches. I actually prefer them to the New Age Outlaws.
ReplyDeleteThe article suggested Hakushi vs Undertaker. In 1995, no way that match is worth watching.
ReplyDeleteIf they kept building Hakushi up, it could have been. They were promoting him pretty hard when he debuted.
ReplyDeleteI always said if I hit a couple million in the lotto I'd build student apartments in a college town and hire a company to run them. Best hustle for the buck around.
ReplyDeleteThis and meltzer are the only 2 wrestling sites I go to. Between bayless giving the news and scotts threads it's pretty diverse and informative. Went to 411 awhile ago and it seemed like everyone who was posting was like 14 yrs old
ReplyDeleteCompletely agree. That or invest in land around an airport, specifically like airport parking.
ReplyDeleteThe only good thing about 411 is Sforcina's Ask411 column. He does a great job with it every week, and it's really the most consistently-good column they do (outside of some of the video game columns, like 4-Player Co-Op). Other than that, though, I will check out LOP for Smackdown spoilers, since I never watch the show.
ReplyDelete1995 Undertaker was wrestling guys like Bundy, Mabel, and Kama. Hakushi would be a major style clash, not in a good way.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Fandango win at 'Mania? I honestly don't remember
ReplyDeleteMini-TJ:
ReplyDeletehttp://deadspin.com/is-peyton-mannings-single-season-yardage-record-a-lie-1491619362
Even as a Saints fan (well, when they're not making me scream myself hoarse at least...)... let it go.
I definitely thought Hakushi would have gone places. His career was a big disappointment. If he'd become a bigger deal, he coulda returned to fight Fat Ninja for the rights to body tattoos.
ReplyDeleteChemtrails, Flouride etc...
ReplyDeleteUh yeah
ReplyDeleteDidn't Sforcina give it up a while back though?
ReplyDeleteHe did, but he just came back a few weeks ago.
ReplyDeleteHe did fine in Japan. I've never understood why people think that a little Japanese guy who can't speak English (or maybe he can, for all know Shinzaki can speak perfect English) was ever going to go anywhere in 1995 WWF. In hindsight he should have gone to WCW, where he probably would have had a bunch of **** matches with all the cruiser guys.
ReplyDeleteAh... might be worth reading again then.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, other than here and Wrestlecrap, I stay away from wrestling sites now.
It's crazy that he doesn't have a job backstage with one of the major promotions. Then again, Vince hates him, so it's really not surprising.
ReplyDeleteNice catch big cat!
ReplyDeleteYeah I agree. Wcw would have been the better move.
ReplyDelete