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The Amount Of Movez Doesn't Really Matter All That Much

Well, this column is bringing me more attention than I thought it would.  It is already on Ewrestling news, and it will be in Greg De Marco's column this Sunday. Other websites are wondering if I could put in on their website, too 

Just a heads up: It's a pretty long piece. 

The Amount Of Moves Doesn't Really Matter All That Much:

Some fans out there believe certain wrestlers are good or bad based up how many moves they do. They also believe adding more moves to a wrestler’s repertoire will automatically make them a better wrestler. Both of those statements are not particularly true. Frankly, a wrestler does not need a ton of moves in order to have a compelling match. In fact, there are more important things a wrestler should be able to do than just a lot of moves.

The most important attribute a wrestler needs to be successful is to have good psychology. The word psychology is an insider word that essentially equates to realism. Back in the day, it was something a wrestler needed to have in order to keep kayfabe alive. However, it is still very important today. Psychology is what causes fans to suspend their disbelief and enjoy the story each match tells. Most people know wrestling is predetermined these days, but even so, fans are more likely to emotionally invest into something that feels real as opposed to something that is clearly contrived.

The first level of good psychology occurs when a wrestler stays true to their character. It would not make any sense if a wrestler were a coward outside the ring and the dominant monster in it, would it? In the 80s, Ric Flair was always one to back out of a fight and his cowardice continued in the ring, where he would take every shortcut in his bag of tricks to win the match. On the flip side, you have The Undertaker’s Deadman gimmick; his character was an immortal zombie, so he would wrestle methodically and no-sell moves, all the while keeping a blank expression on his face.

Another example of good psychology happens when a wrestler adapts to whom they are wrestling. Bret Hart was a master at this; when he wrestled against someone like Kevin Nash, a giant monster, he was mostly on his toes, trying to pick his opportunities to attack. But when he faced someone like Curt Henning, an in-ring technician, he would try to outwrestle them. He always wrestled differently depending on his opponents’ strengths and weaknesses, no matter the opponent. This added a level of realism to Hart’s matches, as just as if one would in a real fight, he adapted his style to give him the best chance of winning — at least in kayfabe.

Arguably, the most integral part of psychology is selling. To most, the word selling means acting injured or hurt. In actuality, it occurs anytime a wrestler is pretending something is happening to them. Facial expressions, body language, and mannerisms are all critical keys to being a good seller. HBK was impeccable at all three of those key factors. Even though he would act as if he was nursing a bad back by constantly grabbing at it, his sentiments are what truly made him an ever-so-loving, sympathetic baby face. Fans could essentially feel the make believe pain HBK was going through, all because of his amazing facial expressions and body language.

There are two major keys to selling a body part; they are selling consistently and adjusting appropriately. If a wrestler A, for example, works over wrestler B’s arm throughout the match, B should make proper adjustments. For argument's sake, let’s just wrestler B’s usually spears people with his left shoulder. However, wrestler A is really working it over. Wrestler B should either properly adjusted to the injury by spearing him with his right shoulder instead, or really sell the effects of spearing him with his wounded shoulder. Christian does both particularly well, as he consistently sells his injury and finds different ways to win a match.

Unlike what limb psychology critics believe, the injured body part does not necessarily have to play into the deeper courses of a match. However, a worked over body part should not be ignored once the wrestler makes a comeback. Instead, they should adapt for a while and then do certain things that make it as if they are trying to shake it off, or something to that nature.

The other three important things a wrestler should have are timing, execution and the ability to pace out a match. A wrestler must be on the same page as his in-ring partner. They need to do a good job of communicating with each other. Think of it as dancing. If someone is off rhythm, it is usually going to look bad, no matter how good the other person is. It is also crucial for reversals/counters and sequences to be perfectly timed and executed. Otherwise, the moves look sloppy and ineffective. Bad execution and timing can lead to more serious tragedies than just bad matches. They can lead to career ending injuries.

The pace is all about the speed of the match. Good wrestlers know the precise time of when to slow or speed up a match. It is usually because the good ones basing their match off the crowd’s responses. Adjustments can also be made if the wrestlers are properly listening to the crowd. If a heel, for example, uses a sleeper hold that is not creating any heat, the best thing would be to get out of that spot as soon as possible. But if the move is creating lots of heat, they should leave it in longer in order to infuriate the crowd (in a good way). Daniel Bryan is a good example of all the above; he works a rapidly paced style; paces his matches based upon the crowd’s reactions, and yet neither his timing nor execution are marred because of it. His timing is instead on point while his execution is flawless. 

Storytelling and structuring are arguably two of the most important things a wrestler has to be able to do. Simply put, storytelling can make or break a match. Without a story, the fans are going to have a difficult time emotionally investing into a match. In addition to that, the story does three also very important things: it creates drama and suspense, makes the moves being performed matter, takes the crowd on a journey, and keeps them intrigued to see how everything unfolds. Let me tie it into the real world by asking you this question: what classical movie had no plot? Exactly. There are not many, if any at all.

Structuring is about putting a match together. The more traditional (and arguably more effective) way is building it like a pyramid. Think about it: you work from the base, build it up by putting the correct layers conjointly in place until it reaches its crescendo. Mick Foley was great at both these things. He could tell a different, yet compelling story, every time he wrestled. He could also pre-plan all of the big spots ahead of time and understand the best time to do them.

Without these elements mentioned above, a wrestler that performs a bunch moves will still be terrible. In essence, matches that have a lot of moves, but lack a lot of things mentioned above, are glorified spot-fests. Don't get me wrong: I am all for spot-fest once in a while. They serve their purpose in wrestling. However, they are the LCD of pro-wrestling. They consist of one big spot after the other, and their only real purpose is to get a cheap pop from the crowd. The moves never string together, and the crowd hardly ever becomes emotionally invested into the match. Furthermore, spot fests can actually have a long-term detrimental effect of a promotion if they’re overdone. One time, TNA accidentally trained their audience to pop just for high spots. As a result, the fans would sit there quietly, waiting for a big spot to cheer about.

Ultimately, the amount of moves can help a wrestler or match to a certain extent. However, moves do not make or break a wrestler or match. In fact, there have been plenty of wrestlers who used a limited move set that are considered masters at honing their craft. Additionally, there is a reason NWA early 80s stuff holds up to this day while stuff in the late 90s like ECW’s hardcore matches do not. The point is that a wrestler can have compelling matches even with a basic move set if they do most of the stuff mentioned above correctly.


Comments

  1. Perfect article man,I have the same feeling as you in this case.I watched a couple of weeks ago Flair vs Race at mid-atlantic,a great match,Race just keeps his offense simple but it feels effective,Flair hits at the end a double arm suplex and the crowd explodes.This is basically two guys doing moves that today are considered weak,however in this match every attack seems to be important.

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  2. I've always assumed that this went without saying. Ric Flair is regarded as the greatest of all time, but it's not like the guy had that much of a moveset. He knew exactly what to do and when to do it. Well, except when it came to retiring.

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  3. There was a gradual, steady "increase" in the movesets and "damage" starting around the time Vince went national, and it REALLY accelerated around ECW's early days.


    70s (and before): What we call "basic moves" were finishers... body slams, vertical suplexes, toe holds... EVERY move was damaging, in some way, and anything could end a match.


    80s: Still basics, but the real dawn of "finishers". Stuff like Superplexes, DDTs, Piledrivers took over, and the slams and suplexes were relegated to "basics". They still "hurt", but not to the level they had before. Now you needed something high impact, whether from your power or from up top, or you needed a solid submission (figure four, sleeper, boston crab/sharpshooter).



    90s: Go crazy. Some matches felt like pulling a gun would be less hassle (and that's INCLUDING the legal ramifications) than hitting the needed moves. Just look at Terry Funk's career: Spinning Toe Hold, Piledriver, Moonsault (not a finisher, I know).


    I'll leave any further ideas to the rest...

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  4. Well, if it was, people wouldn't claim things such as Lynn vs. RVD and a lot of indy matches, especially Davey Richards', as classics

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  5. One thing I miss is the guy winning using anormal move,Just like Sheamus did on Christian it makes his move-set more dangerous,Why can he only finish with the kick?

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  6. Send this article to Davey.

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  7. I think Edwards might read it.

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  8. Moveset is definitely not everything, and flashy moves do not equal a good worker.

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  9. The thing that is so frustrating about Richards is there is a good wrestler inside somewhere. His mindset of what a good match should have is ridiculous. I have liked his work in TNA so far because they have agents that tell him what to do. I think he would have excellent in WWE. NXT is a really good developmental system, plus WWE's road agents are Arn Anderson, Ricky Steamboat, Michael Hayes, and Dean Malenko.

    Tyler Black was becoming Davey Richards 2.0 in the indies, now look how great he is.

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  10. Good stuff, Kyle.

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  11. I think the idea of this Hybrid-wrestler-shootfighter is cool,but he just tries to go full jiu-jitsu.Another problem is that he doesn't work as a single Face,tag he works.I like Davey too,especially the merciless killer one,not the Jiu-Jitsu Jack off,His reign as world champion was one of the protagonists of ROH downfall until Steen Saved it.

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  12. Or when Batista would beat Jericho with a clothesline

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  13. When this happened?

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  14. Solomon Crowe finally debuted at the NXT tapings tonight.

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  15. Hopefully Kalisto is soon too

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  16. Yes! Hollywood Dave is back!

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  17. A brazilian website once made a interview with him,they said he was really cool.

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  18. " WWE is reportedly considering the possibility of adding a third person to the WWE World Title match at WrestleMania XXX, with the latest internal lineup reading, "Batista vs. Orton vs. ? (hopefully Daniel Bryan killing two birds with one stone, giving HHH the comeuppance he deserves and winning the title, although I'd settle for CM Punk).


    WWE US and Intercontinental Title Unification Match: Big E. vs. Dean Ambrose

    * Luke Harper and Erick Rowan vs. Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins
    * Sheamus vs. Christian
    * Goldust vs. Cody Rhodes
    * A match between two NXT wrestlers for the main card (Does Cesaro vs. Zayn count?)"


    WM 30 is going to be epic if this is the final card and they add Bryan into the title match (which I think they kind of have to at this point.)

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  19. That hat is fly.

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  20. Have the HHH vs Bryan on raw with a special stipulation,if Bryan wins he gets the title shot,if he loses he will never fight for WWE title again.

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  21. Nice avatar picture.

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  22. 2004. Batista was still in Evolution,

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  23. A Bret-WM-10 type of scenario would be cool,

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  24. I don't think HHH will ever wrestle on Raw again. However, I do like the idea of Bryan defeating HHH and winning at title on the same night. It would be Bryan's ultimate moment, proving everyone who said he couldn't do it - both from a kayfabe and non kayfabe perspective - wrong.

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  25. You're right.

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  26. This is the way Big Dave shouldve been brought back from get....

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  27. He nailed at that promo.

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  28. that promo was great.

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  29. Funny all the anti smarks bitching about us wanting heel Batista.

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  30. It's his greatest character.

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  31. Problem is: would HHH do what's truly best for business?

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  32. I think this he would,IF don't he's gonna be guilty of making WM 30 a dumpster.

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  33. Squashed LeFort. Looked good but was short. Not sure if they gave him any backstage buildup since they aren't showing us any backstage stuff this taping

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  34. It could kind of be like the Hogan/Goldberg title change on Nitro. Goldberg was crazy over and Hogan putting him over was the final piece of the puzzle(it shouldve been anyway)....

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  35. Ziggler jobs.

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  36. He does what is best for HHH...

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  37. He is so good in this persona, it looks effortless....

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  38. The best characters are the ones you are on a daily basis

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  39. Great point about Tyler Black. I couldn't agree more.

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  40. See, I like this version of Batista.

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  41. Cena would probably excel playing a douchebag....

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  42. Wasn't the original one a botch, where Batista knocked Jericho out with the clothesline? Or am I remembering it backward...

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  43. if some of the interviews he had done are any indication he is a totally cool guy (just a lot less "polished" than how he comes accross on the television).

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  44. His heel character should be his persona crank it up 100x,coward,cocky,troll.They need to make his Bella a valet for him and film a vignett of him have a new look with his Bella creating his set of clothes.

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  45. Are they even still a thing?

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  46. Where's the Hall of Pain Henry?

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  47. They're still dating.

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  48. Seems like a lot more is coming out of him being a bit of a dick....


    I'll always respect the make a wish stuff though....

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  49. Ah, I thought I had heard they split up because Cena didn't want to get married or something like that. I don't really pay that much attention.

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  50. Holy Shit Cesaro is a strong motherfucker.

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  51. This is back to jobber Henry.....

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  52. He seems to be nice but with asshole side sometimes.His make-a-wish stuff is really commendable.

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  53. If Triple H can wrestle Curtis Axel on Raw, and let's be honest, my grandmother gets better reactions than he does, he'll wrestle BRYAN on Raw.

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  54. Random thought:


    What would be your Submission finisher?

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  55. That's hold 399 on jericho's list.

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  56. That was such a cool gimmick....

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  57. Camel clutch. Break your back. Make you humble.

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  58. So sad WCW never pushed him,he was their best heel in 98.

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  59. Sleeper. No bumping involved. Work smarter, not harder

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  60. Funny you mention that because I thought Bo's gimmick was a total rib on Cena's character. Especially the shit eating grin appearing every time he's booed.

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  61. So sad WWE is going down the same road with plenty of guys that are over....

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  62. Sleeper is probably the most underrated hold of wrestling.

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  63. I miss Ricardo doing his announcing.

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  64. Oh tag. New attitude = a suit jacket

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  65. Arm bar. The Brock Lock might be the coolest looking finisher ever

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  66. Jericho invented that trend.

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  67. I would do a boston crab.

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  68. I like how the only time Cole tries to call the action is when they have a "guest commentator" on trying to advance a story

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  69. Ziggler got it over pretty good back in 2009.

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  70. That is a great observation....

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  71. That's hold number 2 of Jericho's list.

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  72. Botched tombstone into a "reverse" Liontamer.

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  73. and 4, and 8, and 13.....

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  74. 45,99,555....

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  75. What is the best WWE non-title match in the last five years?

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  76. ...so Hogan....is the hair a part of the bandana now, Kane style? Didn't look real in the Today show clip

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  77. Cena vs Rock WM 28 Once In A Lifetime!

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  78. Hogan:You know,brother,I'm back because my wife took all I had,so I need a paycheck and TNA wasn't paying enough.

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  79. ...christ, I'd jab an ice pick in my ears if Brigitte Neilsen kept repeating whatever she was saying just now

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  80. "I defeat Real champion"

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  81. If he's dead,he's dead.

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  82. "...like your Popeye, he eats his spinach...."

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  83. *Was* it a botch? I thought it was just effective booking, as they made that a thing for a while.

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  84. Nice to see the asshole Batista back.

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  85. He's been back for weeks....

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  86. The character.

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  87. I'm literally crying looking at some of this guys MS Paint drawings of wrestleres that he Tweets to them.

    https://twitter.com/ilyassking1

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  88. E/Ambrose, Wyatts/Shield, Sheamus/Christian are all fine. Goldust and Cody should be part of a multi team match, say NAO/Usos/Rhodes/Americans, and the NXT guys should be preshow at best. It's WRESTLEMANIA for chrissakes.

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  89. Two of my fav's:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhQJV1RCQAAAqDf.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhXVqblCMAA5nrJ.jpg

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  90. I wonder on what timeline Bray's the Yellow King

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  91. I can't see Cena the good guy in this feud,Bray is just telling the truth.

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  92. I'm not watching Smackdown, but after watching the pre-show on my phone at the gym, I have the Smackdown theme stuck in my head.

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  93. Probably the one that had Shirley go get the pizzas.

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  94. Just what this feud needed....HHH!!

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  95. I'm SHOCKED HHH is in the Shield/Wyatts feud

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  96. It's best for business.

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  97. ...way to kill a crowd and show. "This can't happen.......It can happen Monday instead on Raw"

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  98. On the WWE Network currently: Old School card from MSG features Bob Backlund defending the WWE Title against Stan Hansen in a Steel Cage Match. Sgt. Slaughter and more.


    I'll take that please.

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  99. I'm a cheapskate, but I would have paid for the network for Shield/Wyatts 2. Thanks HHH for giving it away Monday!

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  100. Cant watch that shit, it doesnt feature HHH....

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  101. So dumb that it isn't at Mania.

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  102. I'd laugh if he starts Lucas'ing his way into the old stuff

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  103. After watching Paige vs Emma,I can't believe they still let these models wrestle.

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  104. He already has, I was just watching the Helmsley's Pit where he smashes a coconut over Snuka's head .....

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  105. You'll get Batista and Wyatt jobbing,be happy with that.

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  106. 2 minute crappy model matches on RAW/SD


    15 minute great women's wrestling matches on NXT.


    Something doesn't add up, lol

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  107. I'm betting we get Cena in the main event for the WWE title and Shield vs Wyatts II will happen at Mania.

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  108. Cena in the main event is not the solution,Wyatt vs Shield needs to a street fight.

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  109. Divas plug = Wish I had brain bleach

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  110. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 28, 2014 at 7:28 PM

    Did You Know....? You can watch Smackdown on TV and the WWE Network on your laptop at the same time?

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  111. Don't worry it won't be long til Vince, Steph and Dunn take over nxt production now that's its on their radar and simply ruin it to a homogenized product

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  112. After watching this vignette for Cameron, I hope AJ shoots on Cameron and fucking kills her. Seriously, was that supposed to make her a face? Fuck her.

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  113. If she acted like she did last night,Emma would be over,I can't understand why they won't do this? They can have some Awesome PR showing that women can do it too.

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  114. Fans will cheer for Cena to beat Batista/Orton. Fans will still get Bryan beating HHH, and fans will get Shield vs. Wyatts beating the crap out of each other in a streetfight or TLC or some other gimmick match. Everybody wins!

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  115. Her gimmick is being goofy.

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  116. That's what I'm afraid of. Last night's show smelled like ROH a couple years ago. It was awesome.

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  117. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 28, 2014 at 7:31 PM

    All the Total Divas are babyfaces because they're on a reality show. While the population of the civilized world with televisions AND common sense boo reality TV in general.

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  118. Smackdown is on the WWE Network? I thought RAW and SD weren't on here.

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  119. Last night she didn't acted goofy,to your credit that was my first NXT show.

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  120. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 28, 2014 at 7:32 PM

    I meant that Smackdown is on TV while perusing the Network. Sorry for the confusion.

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  121. Makes sense to me, but I think the mania crowd could still shit on Cena winning unless they HHH/Bryan match has an Extreme Rules title shot for Bryan as the stakes. I think most fans would love to see Cena/Bryan 2.

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  122. Yeah last night was different for her. Her gimmick is being a goofball essentially. Sending her up to WWE with a meanstreak gimmick would be everything that didn't get her over in NXT.

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  123. "This feud is great, but it needs more HHH."

    Hunter, on every hot feud since 2004.

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  124. I can watch an OLD episode of Smackdown from last year while watching tonight's Smackdown on my TV while I plug my Kindle into another TV with an episode from 2012 and have TRIPLE SUCK.

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  125. Backlund vs. Hansen in a cage is about to start on the WWE Network.

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  126. Stranger in the AlpsFebruary 28, 2014 at 7:36 PM

    You just blew my mind. Did that open a portal into a virtual WWE world where you're trapped in a Kennel from Hell match?

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  127. He's a real character alright.

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  128. No, that would involve getting out my iPod Touch and PS3 and having some 2010 episodes of Smackdown loaded up on them. You can literally SMELL the dog pee.

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  129. I want to punch her in the face. The only way they could of made her any more of a heel would have been for her to have Batista come out and give her a thumbs up.

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  130. Big Show is only a 4 time World Champ? Thought he had more reigns than that...

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  131. They forgot his WCW reigns.

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  132. That panel thing was fucking dreadful.

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  133. 2 WCW
    2 WWF
    2 World
    1 ECW (wwe version)

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  134. So WWE is now erasing reigns?

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  135. They're giving to HHH.

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  136. Sheild/Ryback & Hell no at TLC?
    Michaels/UT at WrestleMania 26?
    Cena/Punk #1 contenders on Raw last year?
    Cena/Brock?

    I'm just throwing out some ideas.

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  137. Well they could be counting heel Show and Face Show as two different people.

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  138. What did she say, I was grabbing a drink...

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  139. It's Best For Business.....

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  140. TNA has been good lately

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  141. Later he's gonna have a sex change to be Divas champion.

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  142. HHH: Eater of Reigns aided by Bronze Batista!

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  143. Oooh, Cole said "WWE fans" instead of "Universe".

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  144. He can just get Kainti to do it for him but they didn't get the job done with Val.

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  145. Vince:It's universe idiot,TO PATTERSON'S OFFICE LATER,you're gonna pay.

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  146. Welp, that earns him a shower rape scare from JBL.

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  147. Just watched Zayn vs. Cesaro match again. Fucking great and I love this network for letting me watch it repeatedly if I choose

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  148. She was her usual entitled self. A cocky bitch. She's the one from that tough enough from 2011, right?

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  149. How'd you rate it? I'd say ****1/4 that Scott gave it just about right.

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  150. So with the tweets going around that asks the Chicago crowd to turn around and put thier back to the ring when Batista comes out, do you think this'll happen of only like ten people will do it and look like jackasses?

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  151. Just rewatched X7. Not breaking news but this is why the authority hasnt/ will never work...at the payoff for like 4 storylines at X7, Vince gets kicked in the nuts by his wife, gets beat by his son, loses the girl amd gets slapped by Trish, and gets beat down by Foley.

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  152. The return of Heidenreich is probably worse for Cole....

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  153. That is what I gave that match too

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  154. While Shield/Wyatts II would kick ass, I'd rather they follow through with Cena/Bray because they've been building it since the Rumble so I'd rather them follow through.

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  155. The difference of Vince and HHH is that Vince would get embarrassed on a weekly basis to get Austin over.

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  156. And for poetry fans

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  157. Patterson: Damn it! I have to fuck Michael Cole? Why are you punishing ME Vince?

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  158. Vince:Do it Patterson,IF YOU WON'T I'LL DO IT.

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  159. yea. He'd still get over on Austin alot but when it most mattered he'd act a fool. It was great

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  160. They're either (1) forgetting about the WCW ones altogether or (2) forgetting about his 1st WCW reign (he got the belt off of Hogan by a dq then was stripped of it 8 days later) and first "World" title (he beat Mark Henry then dropped it to Daniel Bryan via a cash-in). And they definitely aren't counting his ECW title reign. Cause it's ECW.

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  161. Kicked in the nuts by his WHEELCHAIR bound wife.

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  162. I was about to write a response of Steph putting on a strap on to do it and realized this got wierd.

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  163. Watch the crowd react to Linda getting up from that chair. That was a brilliant fucking moment.

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  164. If hunter wanted the play the untouchable boss,fine but at least he should've stayed as heel the whole and constantly trying to Screw Bryan,that would make his match with Him even bigger with this Video-Game-Final-Boss feeling.

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  165. Yes,I screwed up,sorry.

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  166. Daniel Bryan might just become my NEW LORD, HERO AND SAVIOR if CM Punk is really gone for good.

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  167. LOL Sabres used a former video scout as a back up goalie.

    http://pagesay.com/buffalo-sabres-forced-to-use-former-video-scout-as-their-backup-goalie/

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  168. I vote for the second answer.

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  169. Yes, and she was the first one eliminated too.

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  170. Born 2 Run, This Life, or are you not sure?

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  171. I'm actually surprised this sort of thing never happened in ROH.

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  172. I still feel that If WWE snatched Richards up 5-6 years ago he could have been the next Dynamite Kid/Chris Benoit (no steroid, or murder jokes). He is an excellent in-ring worker, similar build too them, similar quiet demeanor, etc.

    Would have been a great mid-card, occasional upper-tier wrestler for years and years

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  173. Yeah...they weren't Full Impact Zone, but they definitely got Impacty at various points.

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  174. I THINK Born 2 Run...

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  175. Watch The WWE Network in Canada - http://www.accessustv.com/2014/02/how-to-get-wwe-network-in-canada.html

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  176. davidbonzaisaldanamontgomeryFebruary 28, 2014 at 9:39 PM

    As I mentioned before, great piece. There a ton of spot monkeys who can do a million variations of the Northern Lights Suplex but have no clue about psychology or storytelling. Glad everyone is receptive to your article.

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  177. "Mick Foley was great at both these things. He could tell a different, yet compelling story, every time he wrestled."


    Not after 1997.

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  178. Moveset is still quite important.


    One, different movesets help vary the matches, having the hoss matches and the high-flier matches really helps break up the monotony of a bunch of dudes body-slamming each other.


    Two, a good moveset can make a wrestler really pop. Would Roman Reigns be nearly as awesome without the Spear and Superman Punch? Would Austin be Austin without the Stunner?

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  179. Ah yes, I find it catchy.

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  180. I wouldn't call any of the Lynn/RVD matches good, much less classics.

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  181. Davey Richards is not an excellent worker by any means.

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  182. 2000s-2010s: moves that were once considered instant death are now transition moves and often no-sold. Look at the Jay Briscoe/Kevin Steen match where Jay won the ROH title, it took 3 Tiger Driver 91's to put Steen down. Back in the 90's ONE was an automatic pinfall, and probably a stretcher job and a couple months off due to "injury"

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  183. Me neither. One is okay, but it's still sloppy and disjointed. I remember someone on here said they had a 6-star match. I forget who it was.

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  184. Important? Sure. But not life or death.

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  185. It's awesome how it's only the start of March and we already have a great crop of MOTY candidates.

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  186. Figure-four finger lock.

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