OK, let's talk about this now, shall we?
- Austin v. Michaels at #1...no way. Hogan slamming Andre is clearly #1, not only on a list of WM moments but of moments in wrestling history all-time.
- John Cena v. Rock II at #7 or whatever it was can suck my ass.
- Hogan-Rock should have been higher still. 70,000 people losing their minds and jumping up and down like little kids at least warrants #3.
- I kind of liked the contrast of Shawn's career ending, followed immediately by Flair's career ending.
- The Savage-Liz reunion is insultingly low.
They sure do love them some Shawn Michaels, don't they?
Shawn/Austin doesn't deserve the top spot but it definitely deserves to be in the top 5.
ReplyDelete#1: Pete rose gets tombstoned b for the 1st time or GTFO.
ReplyDeleteHOW BOUT IT?!
The Savage/Liz moment at WM 7 got shafted.
ReplyDeleteEdge spear from X7 should have been higher. Such an awe inspiring, picture perfect spot.
ReplyDeleteYou're fighting a losing battle by criticizing a WWE Best Of List, Scott.
ReplyDeleteThe last time we were here we KICKED YER ASS.
ReplyDeletewe need another pete rose sighting this year.
ReplyDeleteI've brought this up before but since Austin/HBK is 1...Keller always rants about how Austin/HBK is the most historically significant match in history. His rationale: it headlined the ppv that kicked off the Austin era and subsequently the biggest money era ever, while starting the downfall of wcw.
ReplyDeleteI don't agree but it's an interesting talking point
What? No Brock Lesnar Shooting Star Press from WM 19?? That's the night Kurt Angle wrestled with a with a broken freaking neck!!
ReplyDeleteI'm shocked (probably shouldn't be, though) that Austin-Michaels was ranked No. 1. How many people actually remember that? Michaels disappeared immediately and Austin started the McMahon feud. It's Hogan vs. Andre, always and forever.
ReplyDeleteSeriously you guys are lucky that the Shane vs Vince match wasn't rated #1. Count your lucky stars.
ReplyDeleteThey showed the groggy aftermath.
ReplyDelete#1 Triple H beating Lesnar
ReplyDelete#2 Triple H beating Jericho
#3 Triple H beating Rock, Foley, Big Show.
#4 Triple H beating Owen Hart
#5 Triple H beating Goldust
#6 Triple H beating Booker T.
#7 Triple H beating Orton
#8 Triple H beating Sheamus
#9 Triple H survives second degree burns from dry ice
#10 Triple H's Wrestlemania 22 Entrance
Gotta love WWE telling people what the top moments are. Did the email survey get lost on it's way to the BoD?
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing is I don't recall a single Triple H moment on the list.
ReplyDeletelast time I was here we kicked your ass!
ReplyDeleteAgreed that there was too much Michaels. Hogan/Rock should have been a top 5. Bret/Michaels was also really overrated.
ReplyDeleteThat was a good match.
ReplyDeleteHOW BOUT IT?!
ReplyDeletePlus the match sucked.
ReplyDeleteI don't have the stats but I would bet good money that Steve Austin is #1 on at least 50% of these lists.
ReplyDeleteHe has had some awesome WM entrances tho. The one where he smashes the glass as he walks through might be my favorite WM entrance ever.
ReplyDeleteSucks his Barbarian outfit negates anything cool he's ever done
Just watched it a few nights ago, very fun.
ReplyDeletePete Rose at wm14 was so awesome I don't even know where to begin.
ReplyDeleteWell, Shawn is Mr. WrestleMania......
ReplyDeleteHogan/Rock is one of the most insane things I've ever seen. The bar I was in was going completely apeshit when Hulk kicked out of the Rock Bottom and started hulking up. Yes, we were all jumping up and down, because our inner children, for one glorious moment, remembered exactly what it was like to be a little kid staring in awe at hulk Hogan.
ReplyDeleteI know people have written that off at times for just being a Canada crowd thing, but Scott is right - look at the faces of all the people you can see in the crowd losing it from the moment Hulk comes out, and you know that we all wanted our hero back.
Unfortunately, they misread what that was and put Hulk in a position he shouldn't have been in, but man, that night....
It is a really interesting viewpoint, I'll give him that. I'm not sure I agree either, but I can see his side.
ReplyDeleteHow 'bout it?!
ReplyDeleteMichaels vs Angle should have been on that list.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with you. Poison is NOTHING without Bret Michaels.
ReplyDeleteIf we got piper vs hogan straight up at wm1 how much better does that shows nostalgia value become, and would that be #1 on every list?
ReplyDeleteOf course he did have that stage botch once.
ReplyDeleteAustin/HBK might've officially 'kicked off the Austin era' but I'd still argue that Austin/Bret at WM13 was more significant since that was the true breakout for Stone Cold as a face.
ReplyDeleteSavage/Liz WAS a magic moment and is quite low. If nothing else, it showed us the impact of having your shoes on too tight at WrestleMania, if you're a lady.
ReplyDeleteHahaha, touche!
ReplyDeleteTrue, but WrestleMania wouldn't have been as big of a deal without Mr. T in the main event. I doubt their War to Settle the Score match (from the month before on MTV) would've drawn as much attention from the mainstream, which is what the first Mania was really all about.
ReplyDeleteAustin Hart > Austin HBK.
ReplyDeleteYeah, if HHH had made sure to wear the Barbarian stuff for every Mania appearance thereafter he would be held in higher esteem.
ReplyDeleteHindsight.
"They sure do love them some Shawn Michaels, don't they?"
ReplyDeleteAs per WWE's revisionist history of 1990s Shawn Michaels being the catalyst of the Attitude Era and before that the wildly popular "New Generation" banner-carrier (neither of which were really true). I'm a fan of Michaels as much as the next guy, but the glorifying of his 1990s main event run is so overblown... especially since his 2000s run produced far better "big event" matches.
Very true, plus I'm glad orndorff got a shot to main event the biggest show ever at the time.
ReplyDeleteTotally agreed. By far one of my most memorable experiences as a fan, and the one that my friends always talk about.
ReplyDeleteNo it didn't. His 1996 run will never be matched for delivering the goods at the big shows.
ReplyDeleteNot much HHH. I am pleased.
ReplyDeleteYou're right, I didn't even notice that.
ReplyDeleteDid Shawn micheals fuck your sister or something. You and worst in the world are fucking crazy to hate on hbk and Bret so much. Let it go
ReplyDeleteExcept HHH's run in 2000 was better and also was the most profitable year in the company's history. But let's forget that because HHH is the devil.
ReplyDeleteWouldn't go that far at all, and it was impressive what they did pull off considering Shawn's condition. But it's no classic.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. Having legit stars like T and Cyndi Lauper made the WWF look like the top organization, despite the fact that the NWA had a longer history and more prestige (well, as far as prestige goes in a fake sport).
ReplyDeleteHuh? Are you saying hbk vs Austin sucked or Andre vs hogan sucked?
ReplyDeleteIs that where the crowd refused to break after the stage dive?
ReplyDeleteLol its not even close to 96 Shawn.
ReplyDeleteShawn won the title from Bret, and had classics with Diesel and Mankind. I didn't watch much WWF at the time. What other good matches should I track down?
ReplyDeleteHHH-Cactus at the 2000 Rumble and No Way Out and HHH-Rock at Judgment Day 2000 > any 1996 HBK match except the match vs. Mankind at Mind Games.
ReplyDeleteAlso shawn didn't need thumbtacks and hitc cages and career ending angles to get a five star match with foley
ReplyDeleteI do think HBK vs. Foley was the best match if you're ranking 2000 HHH and 1996 HBK together, FYI.
ReplyDeleteBret vs shawn is way better, hbk vs Nash is way better, hbk vs dbs at kotr is way better,
ReplyDeleteShawn had 8 **** or better matches on ppv in 1996 and and 3 matches that were 5 stars or very close.
No, he fucked my mother back when he was wrestling in the AWA and I'm his illegitimate child, furious that my daddy won't recognize me.
ReplyDeleteOr... you must have missed the part where I wrote "I'm a fan of Michaels as much as the next guy." I'm a huge fan of his in-ring work. He's one of the best ever. I just dispute the assertion that he was a great champion in 1995 from a business standpoint or that he was so instrumental to the Attitude era when he had to sit out of basically the entire era because of injuries.
No way. HHH's 2000 run is a lot better than HBK's match with Bret.
ReplyDeleteWhat are these eight **** matches?
ReplyDeleteDude check out these matches
ReplyDeleteAgainst Owen at the Feb ppv before mania
The British bulldog match at king of the ring(not the may ppv, the kotr one), the six man at the july ppv, the Vader summerslam match, and the sid match at survivor series.