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Daily Network Thread - Weekend Edition 4/26/14

The weekend edition means talk about what's on the Network, talk about baseball, basketball, hockey, farming, scuba diving, gastronomy or the medical condition that's slightly embarassing.

The Network highlights today are: Best of Smackdown from 2/1/01 at 1:00 PM ET which features a triple threat match between then WWF champ Kurt Angle, The Rock and Triple H; Best of Hall of Fame marathon beginning at 4:00 PM ET, and then Beyond the Ring at 8:00 PM ET which features You Think You Know Me: The Story of Edge.

Comments

  1. Jannetty and the Kid had some potential to be a pretty good tag team. Too bad (?) Jannetty got fired (again) like a month later during one of their European tours.

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  2. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:02 AM

    I gotta say I'm liking these nice, quick RAWs. They're fun to go through and see matches I haven't seen since they first aired.

    By the way, who exactly did Undertaker "bury"?

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  3. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:03 AM

    Why'd he get fired? Drugs? Im pretty sure at this point Marty is deep into the drugs. As is Shawn but he had more potential or something.

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  4. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:05 AM

    TJ: Which PPV had Angle vs Shawn 2?

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  5. Stranger in the AlpsApril 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    Vengeance 2005

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  6. Yeah I'm struggling to remember one instance where Taker played politics or "buried" anyone.

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  7. I think WWE was settling the lawsuit with the guy who's neck Jannetty broke back in '90, so they just dumped him since he's Marty Jannetty. Surprised he didn't come back until the Fall of '95.

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  8. I was a big fan of ??? Anderson.

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  9. I'd say that match with Kurt angle on ppv were he squashed Kurt and treated him like a jobber. It was on that ppv which had hhh v Jericho. Also, he squashed ddp during the stalker angle.

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  10. Something tells me that when Angle returns (which you know he will), he's going to get a weak pop because fans today won't remember him.

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  11. Squashed was redefined when his wife pinned him on Raw. Yes, 'Taker did the beatdown, but the end result: Sara Undertaker pinned DDP.

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  12. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:23 AM

    If he does ever return to the WWE it won't be to wrestle though. No way is the WWE clearing him. He could make a damn good mouth piece for a younger guy though.

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  13. It also had Cena vs Jericho vs Christian and Batista vs HHH Hell in a Cell. Great show

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  14. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:24 AM

    Flipping around on the Network, watch Orton vs Taker from Mania 21. For the life of me I can't remember who won!

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  15. Not sure if any of this was political, but 'Taker has made a LOT of people look like shit over his career. Perhaps the most notable example (for me anyway) were his two PPV matches with Angle. Angle looked like a joke in both, and in one of them he even did the "fake pinfall" spot that's normally reserved for lowercard opponents. If HHH or someone had done a spot like that, we'd be complaining about it to this day.

    Also, wasn't Punk's 2009 depush supposed to be because he disrespected 'Taker?

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  16. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:30 AM

    You know, Undertaker really should have beat the living shit out of Bob Orton.

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  17. The great Anderson wrestling family. Ole, Arn, CW, and ???

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  18. I was really hoping for Angle v Bryan for the strap.

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  19. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:39 AM

    Eh, I thought !!! Anderson was a bit better. On Tosh.0 I like how every once in a while Tosh will call out Arn Anderson. You can tell from a comment or joke here and there Daniel is (or was) a wrasslin fan.

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  20. Dorky 3 I's face Angle vs heel Punk was a dream feud of mine.

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  21. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 10:41 AM

    I don't remember it well but didn't DDP do a few things wrong backstage that landed him in hot water? Not that I'm excusing it but I thought all that stuff came from the office not Taker. The Angel stuff, yeah, Taker really should have given him more offense. But two people doesn't exactly make a "share" of people.

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  22. Stranger in the AlpsApril 26, 2014 at 10:57 AM

    His signature move was called the Vic Sage.




    Look it up.

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  23. Just think. A year later in the same place we get finkel and wippleman wrestling in their tightly whiteys and William shatner shilling trek wars by beating up Lawler. I dont know how people trash Russo's AE raws when this stuff exists.

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  24. Duh. He did an entire episode last year dressed as the warrior with the its still real to me kid.

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  25. How so? They're going to get a big raise no matter what. 2-3 times as much was a McMahon pipe dream but i can see USA shelling out $200 Million a year.

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  26. Was watching the first In Your House when I thought of something: You live in the Syracuse/Central New York area, but you entered the contest for the house. On the off chance they pull your name out of that giant bin of entries, do you stay home and watch the show on Pay-Per-View?


    Also, how many of those entries do we think were real?

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  27. Glad they're putting the Edge doc up on the network. I watched that one while it was on Netflix and it was great.

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  28. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM

    Was the duh warranted? He dresses up for each of his web redemptions in one way or another. It's the little comments and jokes that show he really is a fan.

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  29. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 11:05 AM

    Funny, the Once More with Feeling soundtrack synchs up with a couple of WM 21 matches pretty well.

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  30. 3 I's angle was his best form.

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  31. I'd like to point out how much I hate Big E's. Finisher. It's a failed Davey Boy Smith power slam.

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  32. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 11:07 AM

    I didn't plan it but when Taker pinned Orton the singing demon guy was singing "see you all in heeeeelllllll".

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  33. Magoonie NOT Teddy BelmontApril 26, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    Question for anybody a fan of Once More with Feeling, which match do you think would pair up perfectly with "Going Through the Motions". A Hogan match right?

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  34. Ric Flair formula match?

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  35. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    Oh, I've seen weirder. But still, what the fuck...

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  36. My apologies. It wasn't meant as a mean spirited duh.

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  37. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:17 AM

    AdBlock Plus and a good anti-virus program are your friends.

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  38. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    First Row is fine for wrestling or MMA, but the VQ isn't close to good enough to watch NHL or NBA games.

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  39. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:20 AM

    Fuck DirecTV, they can eat a pallet of dicks. Fuck their terrible commercials too.

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  40. I don't know what shows you guys watch but Ziggler gets good pops across America. He's over, he's just not being pushed.

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  41. Mister_E_Studd_Got100ProblemsApril 26, 2014 at 11:21 AM

    Related: My cable company just called me and had a package all lined up where I would get 150 channels, free PVR, and some other throw in crap for a grand total of 3 dollars more on my bill each month, no contract, no installation fee.


    DENIED. Cable is not worth $3.

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  42. Hello! DMY. :P Lamest Simpsons reference I've ever made.

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  43. Was it the norm to not put your biggest stars on every week? No Razor, Shawn, Bret or Luger.

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  44. Stranger in the AlpsApril 26, 2014 at 11:34 AM

    Personally, I'm watching the continued implosion of Clay Buchholz. What a crappy season for him, thus far.

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  45. At this point it isn't worth the hassle. I may get to the point where dollars trump convenience but I'm nowhere near that yet.

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  46. We're still in the era when "come to local shows" was heavily played on T.V. The next Raw, we are constantly "updated" with the Title Switch at MSG, despite the next episode being taped.

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  47. Just curious...how many dicks to a pallet?

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  48. I see. Still wouldn't hurt to cut a promo or advance an angle.

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  49. Yeah, but bragging about it sort of makes you a douchebag.

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  50. I thought the Rock Bottom looked good when he actually got the guy off the mat, but a lot of the time, it looked like his opponent was basically just pushed over.

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  51. More often than not, as 1994 goes by and 1995 came around, you would see guys like Shawn, Diesel, Razor, Jarrett, Bret, and Owen on a regular basis in key roles (feature match, interview, whatever). Things get really sad and depressing, though, with smaller venues and weaker undercard talent (Aldo Montoya! HOG! Mantaur!)

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  52. I hear this critique, understand it, and disagree. Actually watch video of the two moves back to back and you'll see the difference. With the Rock Bottom, the Rock actually lifts the opponent about a foot off the ground and throws all his weight into the opponents chest as he slams him down. With the Flatliner, the idea is the opponents head is being pulled down so that he slams face first into the mat. The attacker uses only the opponent's arm across his body to guide him down, so he isn't absorbing the opponents body weight in the impact like he would if he were being Rock Bottomed. The theory of the move is that the opponent's face takes the impact and the attacker just lands with a controlled back bump, like he would with a suplex or pancake.

    To say the Flatliner is the same thing as Rock Bottoming yourself would be like saying the Curtain Call is like Diamond Cutting yourself.

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  53. Wow people think high of the Rock Bottom. I always considered it a jokes and a Chock Slam looks 10x times more damaging.........

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  54. For all the people who trash Russo's AE Raws, I don't think I've ever seen someone say, "those Russo written Raws were garbage. They should have been more like the 1995 Monday Night Raws."

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  55. -Ewww....



    -I know, that's why we changed it to DMY.

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  56. Why are you doing a pedophile gimmick in the other thread? Do you want attention?

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  57. I don't think Stone Cold becomes Stone Cold if he kicks off his rebellion by putting Vince McMahon in the Million Dollar Dream.

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  58. It was probably better that way. The main reason why so many wrestlers are stale right now is that we see them each and every week, sometimes twice or 3 times. If we just saw them once a month, they would seem a lot fresher.

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  59. What are you talking about Mr.?

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  60. It some dude named "Wrestling 008". He must not have logged out or something because the Disqus email notification had his name attached to it with his reply

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  61. Here's a story for if Punk comes back: Every match, he goes for the GTS, but it's always reversed or kicked out of. Then, one RAW, Jake Roberts comes up to Punk and offers him the secret of the perfect DDT. Not the kind that people kick out of regularly, the Jake version that got a 3 count every time. Gives Punk a new, better finisher that he can hit anyone with, and we get some great promos out of it, too.

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  62. POWERPLEX!!

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  63. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Not sure, I don't know many dicks are in a bag, or how many bags are in a case of dicks. My warehouse experience (I used to run the warehouse of the biggest liquor store in the world when I was 20) tells me there's either 48 or 60 cases of dicks on a pallet, most likely.

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  64. There's lots of good illegal football streams. I watch Redzone every Sunday for years now with no issue.

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  65. Wrestling 008
    You look like youve seen better days... Those days are over for Lawler, I am Brian Christopher taking my father's role. Whose the girl btw?
    11:21 a.m., Saturday April 26

    Previous comments form.same username:

    Guest: Whoes the pretty lil girl on the Scott's facebook profile? How olds she now?

    Guest: You ever visited Scott's facebook, theres the girl of my dream, I am 42 btw and I like touching preety girls like that

    OfficerFarva: Lawler?

    Guest reply:
    You look like youve seen better days... Those days are over for Lawler, I am Brian Christopher taking my father's role. Whose the girl btw?

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  66. Hands down, worst finisher ever = The Cobra (sorry Santino)........

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  67. The Angle Slam was a finisher that got KILLED back in the 00s. See also: any Y2J finisher before the Codebreaker.

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  68. http://www.rspwfaq.net/2014/04/cutting-cord.html?m=1

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  69. Ok a guy can have some fun sometimes, sorry now please edit your post and remove my name....

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  70. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:55 AM

    There's good trolling, there's douchebag Dougie/Chan trolling, and then there's just being a complete fucking idiot. This would obviously be a case of the last one.

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  71. YEAH!!! STICK IT TO THE MAN.

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  72. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM

    As much as he's tried, it just keeps coming back even stronger. GO AVALANCHE!

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  73. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    Same here. Really, if it weren't for sports and my 360 I'd have no need to even own a TV.

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  74. Im legit curious on if he thought it was funny, trying to piss if Scott, or just wanted attention. He just admitted it in another thread

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  75. Amsterdam_Adam_CurryApril 26, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    If he thought it was funny than he's dumber than I thought. Like, if it was Scott's wife in the pic it'd be funny, but in that case Parallax would have all over that shit months ago.

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  76. Yeah, but honestly the lil girl on Scott's facebook is sexyy, bye now, I am going back to the joedust account.

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  77. Always thought Hogans leg drop and Randy elbow drop were really poor excuses for finishers. Then again I was a baby when they were at their peak. It still was ridiculous for them to use it during wcw when the leg drop and the elbow drop was practically on everyone's move set. I was never impressed.

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  78. Applying to jobs while watching the Yankees-Angels game. It seems like every time I look up at the TV, Mike Trout is at bat.

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  79. Wow. That's an insane deal tho

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  80. I'd argue that's part of what makes (or maybe made, since it's gone downhill) NXT easier to watch. They switch things up on a week-to-week basis so not everyone wrestles every week. It gives different people the spotlight.

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  81. Thanks for that. I really didn't need THAT visual back in my brain. Damn you.

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  82. Mister_E_Studd_Got100ProblemsApril 26, 2014 at 12:22 PM

    I KNOW RIGHT!

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  83. Mister_E_Studd_Got100ProblemsApril 26, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    It was 23 for the cable, but they would knock 20 off of my internet so a net of $3.

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  84. Put him in a smarky town and they'll wake up and cheer.

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  85. They also had something like 4-5 TV shows a week at this point I think. Raw on Mondays, All-American Wrestling on weekends, Superstars in syndication, Mania on Saturdays, Wrestling Challenge, etc. They'd shuffle the wrestlers around the shows.

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  86. The last match = depressing because everyone, valet included, is dead. Who was the ref?

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  87. How does 3 percs, 4 somas and 5 beer shades of gray Angle vs mascara running down his face, Kleenex fibers stuck to his nostrils shades of gray Punk sound to you?

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  88. I totally forgot about the Disciple's ability to hit you with the Apocalypse.....AND DROP YOU.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tgnp9I1eZY

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  89. But why not blame the bookers and Vince?

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  90. In fairness, Taker is 21-1... maybe he got the one from Orton?


    ;)

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  91. Oh man, the Network has the entire Starrcade 86 version up which is nearly 4 HOURS LONG. Do I try it as an endurance test? Yeah there are some fantastic matches but still, 4 hours long.

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  92. Watching ECW Hardcore Heaven 2000. Was there live but never actually saw the broadcast. Mahoney/Tanaka was a surprising strong opener, even if it did rely too heavily on going right to the big move/false finish formula. Taker and HHH apparently took notes.

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  93. Always makes me cry how close the Yankees were to drafting him.

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  94. Mikey Whipreck hooked Little Guido's arms, lifted him overhead into a spinning bodyvice, and dropped him into a piledriver. Little Guido kicked out clean at two. Japan called and said that move was too crazy.

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  95. There's a veritable cavalcade of trivia and unusual names on that card.


    Want to see a face Baron Von Raschke? Want to see Zeb Colter try for a tag title (U.S., not World)? Want to see Rick Rude in the NWA? Want to see Bill Dundee in the NWA? Want to see a rather bleh redhead help Jimmy Valiant shave Paul Jones' head? Want to see Jim Cornette nearly die (no, not literally) for the sport?


    Then by golly, does the NWA have the card for you!

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  96. Flair/Nikita, after Magnum's accident.

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  97. Just watched WWF bad blood. Shawn Michaels is just unbelievable. How many matches can a guy have where he completely steals the show with amazing bumping and crazy offense. I've Shawn have at least 4 amazing 5 starish matches where he just does the whole fucking thing himself. Saw what you want about his box office drawing when he's on the tippy top but is there anyone else you'd have rather seen in a big match? Dude was the best ever and I'm a flair and Bret fan more than Shawn but he was just the greatest.

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  98. ECW always had a hard time building to a finish. I've been watching all the ppvs in order (I've made it through n2r 2000) and the amount of matches you'll see with these crazy spots that people always kick out of and then end up actually ending with an nearly ice cold finish out of nowhere is kind of amazing. They really someone better than whoever they had to put the matches together and lay out the finishes.

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  99. My cable crapped out for a moment while Trout was at the plate in the top of the ninth. The reception came back and Trout was on first. I think he's cursed me.

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  100. I always felt the same for the older NWA/WCW shows too. The finish always seemed random and out of nowhere. Gives you a strong appreciation for Patterson.

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  101. Definitely. Patterson could possibly the greatest wrestling mind of all time. Gave the WWF a huge advantage over the competition.

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  102. Bah, that's nothing. Watch Teddy Hart vs Jack Evans from ROH Final Battle 2009.

    Or better yet, don't because it's a mockery of pro wrestling.

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  103. ... would that not apply to just about any match featuring either of those "gentlemen"? (Term used VERY loosely here)

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  104. Flair vs Dusty from 85 was at least a much better match than 84.

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  105. TJ: http://www.ddtdigest.com/features/prog1974/


    FORTY years ago...

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  106. Big K for K-Rob...Howie is a pest. Much needed W, especially with Masa My Hero tomorrow.

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  107. Did the DDT Digest crew stop updating their site permanently?

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