This week's episode of WWE Countdown ranks the top ten greatest factions of all time. Speaking of which, the Greatest Factions DVD set was released this week. Coincidence? The voice over lady says "We list them, you rank them". Again......that's the problem. So here is the list presented. I am the messenger of said list, and I do not endorse this list. If it angers you, seek help. It's a wrestling list! CLICK "READ MORE"!
10. The Heenan Family - Bobby Heenan was one of the more successful managers of the 80's. Dean Ambrose states that if you're in the Heenan Family, you had instant credibility. Brodus Clay brings up that Heenan wanted to manage the champion, and Hulk Hogan stood in the way, making him a constant target of the Family. Heenan's coup was supposed to be Andre the Giant, but we know how that turned out. Cesaro says that Heenan never cheated, he just helped his clients win. Mean Gene says the Heenan Famly is the greatest faction of all time, but they're only #10 on this list.
9. The Dangerous Alliance - Paul Heyman brought together one of the more talented factions to the forefront. Heyman says that their favorite target was Sting, because Sting was the face of WCW at the time. Of course, Steve Austin was being groomed as the next big star. The Dangerous Alliance held every major title except for the World title.
8. The Nation of Domination - The Nation was memorable because they were controversial. Rocky says that when he joined, he was able to be himself. They show the members in their various less successful incarnations (Papa Shango, Gladiator Faarooq, Olympian Mark Henry, etc). They bring up Rock's ousting of Faarooq, and Faarooq says that he should have whipped Rock's ass sooner.
7. The Corporation - This group was borne from Vince McMahon's need to have guys in his back pocket to carry out his efforts to control everything. Steve Austin was the biggest adversary because of his refusal to cower to The Boss. Vince brought The Rock into the fold because he saw him as a foil to Austin. They bring up Vince's Royal Rumble win due to the help of the other Corporation members.
6. The Hart Foundation - The group formed during a match between Owen Hart and The British Bulldog, when Bret Hart came out and reunited everyone. This kicked off the excellent Canada vs. USA angle. Dean Ambrose says that was a revolutionary idea. Bret himself says some Americans thought Bret had a good point. No tears in his eyes there, however. Canadian Stampede saw every member of the Hart Foundation get a bigger pop with each individual entrance. One of the hottest crowds ever, in my opinion.
5. Evolution - Three generations came together in one group, with Ric Flair, Triple H , Batista and Randy Orton. Their peak was at Armageddon 2003 when all four won titles in one night. Everyone was banking on Orton being the breakout star of the group. Batista says that before Evolution, he was lacking that credibility he needed. Of course, it all started to go downhill when Orton won his first World title, then Batista felt that Triple H was holding him back. Orton and Batista would go on to become big stars after their stint.
4. The Four Horsemen - Each individual member of the Horsemen was an accomplished wrestler. They considered themselves the elite of the business. With JJ Dillon at the helm, they won title after title. Mean Gene says that one prerequisite to be in the Horsemen was you had to have a strong liver. Rolexes, limousines, fancy suits; the party never stopped. However, they still took care of business, breaking various bones of guys like Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Morton and Nikita Koloff. Should be #1, honestly.
3. The NWO - The goal of the New World Order was to take over WCW. It was the height of the Monday Night War, and when Scott Hall and Kevin Nash showed up, WCW made no bones about WWF stars invading the company. Hulk Hogan revealing himself to be the ringleader was a bombshell that turned the ratings tide to Nitro's favor. It seemed that every week, people were tuning in to see who would join next. The group became so hated that it became cool to cheer them. NWO merch went through the roof, and a lot of people got rich.
2. The Brood - Dafuq?? Gangrel, the gothic blood-drinking vampire, taking Edge and Christian under his wing. Their entrance was attention grabbing, with them rising from a ring of fire. The bloodbath gimmick came about due to the lack of verbal communication from the group, but they thought they needed a calling card. Eventually, Edge and Christian went on to become huge stars. Gangrel......not so much.
1. D-Generation X - It started out as Shawn Michaels and Triple H acting like a couple of frat boys, enjoying ruffling those feathers. When Shawn Michaels left due to injury, they brought in Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and X-Pac with Chyna as the straight man. The crotch chop transcended wrestling. When HBK and HHH reunited in 2006, it really became more of a comedy routine every week.
The Post-Game Opinion: The Brood being on the list surprised me. The actual factions that should be on the list are here, but the order is out of whack, as per the usual for this show. I do not have too many complaints with the list other than the Horsemen should have been #1, as they are the bar for all factions to meet. NWO should be #2. Thoughts?
10. The Heenan Family - Bobby Heenan was one of the more successful managers of the 80's. Dean Ambrose states that if you're in the Heenan Family, you had instant credibility. Brodus Clay brings up that Heenan wanted to manage the champion, and Hulk Hogan stood in the way, making him a constant target of the Family. Heenan's coup was supposed to be Andre the Giant, but we know how that turned out. Cesaro says that Heenan never cheated, he just helped his clients win. Mean Gene says the Heenan Famly is the greatest faction of all time, but they're only #10 on this list.
9. The Dangerous Alliance - Paul Heyman brought together one of the more talented factions to the forefront. Heyman says that their favorite target was Sting, because Sting was the face of WCW at the time. Of course, Steve Austin was being groomed as the next big star. The Dangerous Alliance held every major title except for the World title.
8. The Nation of Domination - The Nation was memorable because they were controversial. Rocky says that when he joined, he was able to be himself. They show the members in their various less successful incarnations (Papa Shango, Gladiator Faarooq, Olympian Mark Henry, etc). They bring up Rock's ousting of Faarooq, and Faarooq says that he should have whipped Rock's ass sooner.
7. The Corporation - This group was borne from Vince McMahon's need to have guys in his back pocket to carry out his efforts to control everything. Steve Austin was the biggest adversary because of his refusal to cower to The Boss. Vince brought The Rock into the fold because he saw him as a foil to Austin. They bring up Vince's Royal Rumble win due to the help of the other Corporation members.
6. The Hart Foundation - The group formed during a match between Owen Hart and The British Bulldog, when Bret Hart came out and reunited everyone. This kicked off the excellent Canada vs. USA angle. Dean Ambrose says that was a revolutionary idea. Bret himself says some Americans thought Bret had a good point. No tears in his eyes there, however. Canadian Stampede saw every member of the Hart Foundation get a bigger pop with each individual entrance. One of the hottest crowds ever, in my opinion.
5. Evolution - Three generations came together in one group, with Ric Flair, Triple H , Batista and Randy Orton. Their peak was at Armageddon 2003 when all four won titles in one night. Everyone was banking on Orton being the breakout star of the group. Batista says that before Evolution, he was lacking that credibility he needed. Of course, it all started to go downhill when Orton won his first World title, then Batista felt that Triple H was holding him back. Orton and Batista would go on to become big stars after their stint.
4. The Four Horsemen - Each individual member of the Horsemen was an accomplished wrestler. They considered themselves the elite of the business. With JJ Dillon at the helm, they won title after title. Mean Gene says that one prerequisite to be in the Horsemen was you had to have a strong liver. Rolexes, limousines, fancy suits; the party never stopped. However, they still took care of business, breaking various bones of guys like Dusty Rhodes, Ricky Morton and Nikita Koloff. Should be #1, honestly.
3. The NWO - The goal of the New World Order was to take over WCW. It was the height of the Monday Night War, and when Scott Hall and Kevin Nash showed up, WCW made no bones about WWF stars invading the company. Hulk Hogan revealing himself to be the ringleader was a bombshell that turned the ratings tide to Nitro's favor. It seemed that every week, people were tuning in to see who would join next. The group became so hated that it became cool to cheer them. NWO merch went through the roof, and a lot of people got rich.
2. The Brood - Dafuq?? Gangrel, the gothic blood-drinking vampire, taking Edge and Christian under his wing. Their entrance was attention grabbing, with them rising from a ring of fire. The bloodbath gimmick came about due to the lack of verbal communication from the group, but they thought they needed a calling card. Eventually, Edge and Christian went on to become huge stars. Gangrel......not so much.
1. D-Generation X - It started out as Shawn Michaels and Triple H acting like a couple of frat boys, enjoying ruffling those feathers. When Shawn Michaels left due to injury, they brought in Road Dogg, Billy Gunn and X-Pac with Chyna as the straight man. The crotch chop transcended wrestling. When HBK and HHH reunited in 2006, it really became more of a comedy routine every week.
The Post-Game Opinion: The Brood being on the list surprised me. The actual factions that should be on the list are here, but the order is out of whack, as per the usual for this show. I do not have too many complaints with the list other than the Horsemen should have been #1, as they are the bar for all factions to meet. NWO should be #2. Thoughts?
5.Dangerous Alliance
ReplyDelete4. Hart Foundation '97
3. DX
2. NWO
1. Horsemen
The Brood @ #2.........WTF?!? They shouldn't have even cracked honorable mention.
ReplyDeleteI would make the nwo number 1 they drew WAY more money and we're single handedly the cause of Vince McMahon demise for two years. No way there is a more successful faction in the history of the business.
ReplyDeleteReal list determined by sciences and maths:
ReplyDelete1. nWo
2. Horsemen
3. DX
4. Hart Foundation
5. Dangerous Alliance
6. Corporation
7. Evolution
8. NOD
9. Triple Threat
10. Camp Cornette
Technically, The Heenan Family was a stable, not a faction.
ReplyDeleteThe Brood was OBVIOUSLY a way bigger deal than the NWO guys.
ReplyDeleteAnother great list from WWE!
If the Heenan Family and Dangerous Alliance are in, the First Family deserves mention. Since they're stables I'd drop them and add the Varsity Club and Hot Stuff International. The Brood is dropped for not being important, replaced by the Army of Darkness.
ReplyDeleteIf this isn't a sign that the fan vote needs to be abandoned, I don't know what is. What with The Brood and their prestigious zero title reigns.
ReplyDeleteBest Faction Entrance Themes
ReplyDelete5. Nation if Domination (When the two white rappers were doing their entrance)
4. NWO
3. Evolution
2. The Brood
1. Horsemen
Just saw the dvd ad. I wish they'd stop telling people Barry Windham was a huge deal in the Horsemen. He was fine, but Ole is the fourth.
ReplyDeleteOle fucking sucks.
ReplyDeleteWe are The Nation! Live and in color! Don't diss the man, or we'll bone rush ya motha!
ReplyDeleteI can dig that. # 1, 2 and 3 are the only real answer for a real top 3. Nwo and Horsemen are interchangeable for me at 1 or 2. DX is right where it should be
ReplyDelete2006 DX really hurts their ranking.
ReplyDeleteDX and Nation were nWo knockoffs. I'd rank 'em: #1 is Horsemen. #2 nWo. #3 DX. #4 Heenan Family. #5 The Corporation. #6 Dangerous Alliance #7 Hart Foundation.
ReplyDeletenWo has to be #1
ReplyDelete"DX and Nation were nWo knockoffs"
ReplyDeleteThanks for the early warning to stop reading the rest of your post.
They all had there weak points. NWO in 99-2000 and 2003, Horsemen in the early 90's, etc
ReplyDeleteWindham being the "Official" WWE recognized 4th Horsemen is more due to Flair's preference over anything else.
ReplyDeleteThey were created during the Monday Night Wars as evil heel factions to oppose the nWo on TNT. Black shirts and silver letter... Not saying they sucked. But "oh no, a new member of...!" was totally nWo's deal at the time. WWE did it well, but they were created because of the nWo, 100%
ReplyDeleteI was trying to remember the lyrics earlier. THANK YOU
ReplyDelete"King, Faarooq has promised two new members of the Nation, right here tonight!" Raw '97 = DiBiase sitting in the crowd, giving 4 fingers and saying "next week, five." C'mon.
ReplyDeleteDoes that mean that the nWo is a Camp Cornette knockoff?
ReplyDeleteNation nor DX were based around "oh no, a new member of..." suspense. Nation's members were way more fluid but neither group was based around that at all.
ReplyDeleteI mark for PG-13.
ReplyDeleteNo shame here.
No. Camp Cornette was a classic trio of heels followed by a manager. A classic stable. The nWo is a knockoff, though. Bisch jacked the idea from Japan. DX wearing matching black shirts and "taking over the show" in no way reflects the nWo, right.
ReplyDeleteDX and NoD's gimmicks were nowhere near nWo's.
ReplyDeleteThis was factored in. Like I said dude, sciences and maths.
ReplyDeleteI can see how someone would connect DX and nWo, but the Nation and nWo?? That's so random
ReplyDeleteDX's marketing matching black t-shirts, attacking authority figures, not playing by company rules, having celebrities join the ranks... not the nWo at all.
ReplyDelete"Well, the NWO wore black, whereas the Nation *were* black."
ReplyDeleteClearly the votes were swayed by an influx of Jeff Hardy fans counting his time in the New Brood!
ReplyDeleteYou need to be more specific with number one. I prefer the Pillman-era Horseman theme to the Malenko-era one for example.
ReplyDeleteThere is a difference between knockoff and being similar. DX was a comedy act, nWo was a super srs heel group.
ReplyDeleteNash is also half black.
ReplyDeleteATTICA! ATTICA! ATTICA!
I loved their interactions with Lance. You can tell he just didn't like those hoodlums and their cheating ways.
ReplyDeleteHorsemen should always be #1. I smell corporate bias.
ReplyDeleteThe theme that sounded like The Creeper when they kicked out Sting is the best one.
ReplyDeleteWhy should Horsemen be ahead of the nWo?
ReplyDeleteThey were ever-evolving. Plus Flair > Hogan.
ReplyDeleteSo far no mention of the Freebirds or Von Erichs. Crazy how many great factions there have been and also the Brood.
ReplyDeleteYou would think the York Foundation with all their computer skills could have hacked the poll and had a stronger showing.
ReplyDeleteIt's kinda hard to hack the internet with a broken 80's word processor!
ReplyDeleteRichard Morton snorted too much business powder and ruined the keyboard.
ReplyDeleteSurprisingly this eloquent and well thought out defense hasn't swayed me.
ReplyDeletewho are you to doubt the prestigious Light Heavyweight Title
ReplyDeleteNWO has to be number 1, they are the only group that accomplished what they set out to do. Their stated purpose was to destroy WCW, and, eventually, they did. What other group can say that? What was the Four Horseman's original purpose? To destroy Dusty Rhodes? They failed. What was DX's original purpose? To prove that Vince loves cock? They failed. Though Nailz might say otherwise...
ReplyDeleteSeriously, stop letting fans rank these, their choices are utter crap considering most have no idea of the awesomeness the Horsemen or Alliance were up to in their prime.
ReplyDeleteHey, WWE just offers the choices, the fans are the ones who rank them, I'm pretty sure the actual program will have guys going "yeah, the Brood this high?"
ReplyDeleteThey 4... 4 LIFE (sorry long day, the jokes will get better tomorrow)
ReplyDeleteOh darn. Well, you win the argument then. Sorry about that.
ReplyDeleteFacepalm at the Brood.
ReplyDeleteI dunno man, that might be what they're saying, but every list released thus far has screamed "WWE Corporate Revisionist History".
ReplyDeleteRemember that night Gangrel, after over a decade as being the most famous wrestler of all time, finally turned his back on the fans and changed the business forever?
ReplyDeleteSPOILER : No, they won't.
ReplyDeleteI do. Lee Marshall told him to go to hell.
ReplyDeleteMaybe but pretty sure some choices are not the ones guys want. On the "Biggest Blunders" list, all the guys say Shockmaster should have been #1 and really can't see some of the picks for tag teams going over.
ReplyDeleteAs for "Revisionist History," the new "WWE 50" book has stuff on how Crockett offered better in-ring action and guys taking shots on Hogan, the Brawl for All and Heyman trashing the WWE ECW so it's not all revisionist.
Well jeez, they're releasing a DVD with the word "Wrestling" in the title, so obviously Vince can't be everywhere at once!
ReplyDeleteThe Brood being so high is an apology for being left out of the "Coolest Entrances" countdown completely, because they should have been #1 on that list, IMO.
ReplyDeleteUnless you want me to say that Flair, Anderson, et al, couldn't hold a candle to Konnan, Nash, Hogan, and Buff Bagwell...but, hell, it's a matter of taste, I guess...
ReplyDeleteStraight to hell
ReplyDeleteIn fact, I can't think of any nWo match I would EVER watch again. Ever. Even Sting vs. Hogan was a fucking dud.
ReplyDelete96 Wargames still holds up well I think
ReplyDeleteI mean, I totally disagree with DX being #1, but I get it. Doesn't surprise me. The Brood? The Brood? Huh? Brood? Who voted on this list? People whose entire experience with wrestling was late 1998 to early 1999 WWE and literally nothing else? How could a list have The Brood at #2 and even have the Dangerous Alliance on the list? Would anyone voting them that high even know who the Dangerous Alliance is? Where's the Ministry? Where is the Union Of People You OUghta Respect, Shane?!?
ReplyDeleteAlways imagined what it would have been like if JR and Lawler called Hogan's turn.
ReplyDeleteI would have been guessing a while to come up wit the Brood.
ReplyDeleteI think it's weird that a list that has the Brood at #2 even has groups like the Dangerous Alliance on it. There can't possibly be crossover between anyone voting the Brood #2 and people who have even heard of the Dangerous Alliance.
ReplyDeleteIf you gave me 10 guesses I probably would have gotten 7-8 of them. If you gave me 20 guesses I'd almost certainly get 9. If you gave me 50 guesses I'd still be at 9 and claiming you're cheating.
ReplyDeleteI rather have the Freebirds (Gordy Rodgers and Hayea) over the Brood who did nothing of note until
ReplyDeleteedge and Christian broke away from Gangrel and put on one of my favorite 99 matches against the Hardy Bros... The Goth wrestling fans must have been out in full force for voting
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the other nine I would have gotten in some order. I mean, I know Edge got a pretty long run as a main eventer, so maybe those fans who voted felt some type of connection to the Brood because of that.
ReplyDeleteBusiness is about to pick up! It's Hulk Hogan and he's mad as hell, King!
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking the same thing. Very strange, indeed.
ReplyDeleteEverybody knows it's thighs that Vince loves.
ReplyDeleteI think either DX or the NWO should have been one. They're both more historically relevant.
ReplyDeleteWhy am I not surprised that DX is #1?
ReplyDeleteYes, it needs to be.
ReplyDeleteSadly, they got me back into wrestling.
ReplyDeleteI like the crappy fan rankings, infinitely more interesting to see what the masses determine to be the greatest vs this blog. And im going to get the "real" list from dozens of people here who feel the need to share their opinion with the world anyway.
ReplyDeleteThe Brood were just an NWO knock-off.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, Ganrgrel was such shit it's shocking he makes it on any list.
ReplyDeleteThe Brood?
ReplyDeleteBwahahahhahaha!!!
Hell, I think I would have put the Dungeon of Doom ahead of The Brood.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the Truth Commission?
ReplyDeleteBecause you're just toooooooooo fruity!
ReplyDeleteJust imagine JR slowly and angrily saying "THIS IS A DARK DAY" and "WHAT IN THE DAMN HELL THIS IS MAKES ME SICK" a lot, whilst Lawler keeps squeaking "Ha ha! This is great!" for about 20 minutes.
ReplyDeleteNot if you use a back door to jack into the mainframe!
ReplyDelete*smacks head* Why didn't I think of that?
ReplyDeleteEVOLUTION IS A MYSTERY
ReplyDeleteON A TOP TEN LIST FOR ALL TO SEE
THEY COULDNT EVEN RANK #3
Is it Official WWE history now that Shawn and HHH formed DX and Chyna came later?
ReplyDeleteObviously, we've severely underestimated the appeal of pirate shirts and fake vampire teeth.
ReplyDeleteI would substitute The Radicalz, Dungeon Of Doom or even Right To Censor for The Brood. What did the Brood ever really do that was memorable?
ReplyDeleteThe Brood? Well fuck the Union should have been top five and Los Boricuas should have been at least 7.
ReplyDeleteThat Jackal was wise.
ReplyDeleteThese lists just amuse me now.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of DX. What's with the DVD cover of this new greatest factions DVD? They have HHH in the middle as if he was the leader and not HBK's stooge who got lucky by Shawn's back getting mangled by a casket.
ReplyDeletehttp://htcwrestling.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/wwes-greatest-factions.jpg
Other than their kickass entrance & theme music, nothing.
ReplyDeleteAccording to them, the WWE picks who's on the list & the fans just rank them.
ReplyDeleteI always see kids walking down the street wearing white lace-up shirts and leather pants, drinking blood from a goblet.
ReplyDeleteI guess Dave Heath belongs on those Legends pre-show panel shows....
ReplyDeleteWho is it that actually voted on by?
ReplyDeleteEh....who cares? These lists aren't really about who ranks where. They're more about watching highlights and listening to talking heads.
ReplyDeleteOk, but they are suppose to be the fans, I don't spend all my time at WWE.com but I never see these polls and if it is not fan voting then I'd be curious who does have a say. I doubt HHH would yea Edge's group should be ahead of Evolution and the Horsemen.
ReplyDeleteThe Brood at number 2???
ReplyDeleteDid Gangrel vote 10 million times himself to make this happen lol?
Pleasantly surprised that Evolution was so far down the list. I figured they would be put at number 2 and here they are five.
No, official WWE history is that HHH invented Dx and Shawn was his sidekick. I know....ridiculous right?
ReplyDeleteIt might be one of the greatest entrances/themes ever in pro wrestling history.
ReplyDeleteI've seen the polls on WWE.com from time-to-time. Never voted though. I think they're at the bottom of the main page....but not always.
ReplyDeleteMaybe it's younger fans interested in seeing new stuff (new to them) that are voting. Even if they weren't around in the 90's, DX and the NWO have been shoved down their throat so much that maybe they vote for stuff like the Brood out of curiosity.
I think the Brood is not that hard the fathom in that everyone loves Edge and Christian. They see the Brood as when Edge and Christian took off...blood drinking vampire guy is cool too but it's E & C
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