I wonder if they'd bother having Kane feud with Xavier Woods' new faction. Although I'm pretty sure WWE will play them as heels -- because, well, they're fed-up Black guys and therefore bad -- technically Woods' beef is with the Authority. So they come to HHH demanding respect, and he siccs Kane on them.
that's one of the frustrating things with the writing. HHH doesn't really have a beef with the people he's feuding with or at least shouldn't. He's not feuding with the guys that have an issue with him or him with them.
It made sense when Vince didn't want Austin to be champ. He didn't want redneck trash to be the face of his company when he'd been trying to shake that stigma from the business for 15 years. I don't see why HHH would have a beef with any of the top contenders, heel or face.
Here's a scary thought: Lesnar beats Cena for the title at SummerSlam. Reigns wins the Royal Rumble. Reigns goes on to beat Lesnar for the belt in an absolute war... only to have Rollins come out, cash in the MitB briefcase, and steal the title away from Reigns. The Authority wins again.
Maybe WWE still thinks of Cena as "hip-hop," and hip-hop is still considered anti-authority, so that's the connection. Which would be kinda stupidly brilliant because then HHH is recalling his "people like you" persona from the Booker T feud.
Ending WM with a heel champ is rare, and I don't think Rollins is quite on that level yet. I think Reigns will win the title, Rollins will cash-in sometime after WM and lose due to Ambrose interference, which sets up a triple threat title match between Reigns, Ambrose and Rollins.
Exactly, that's why Austin was a perfectly timed character that was a hit and none of this is connecting. It was even a stretch with Bryan. Now it's just stupid against Cena.
All of this Cena hate just comes out of nowhere. Back at Mania 22 they framed it where HHH was tradition and Cena was new school but that was 8 years ago. I don't see why HHH would care now.
As a boss I'm going with the guy the fans want cause I want to make money. Bryan didn't have a terrible image so it made no sense for a COO to ignore the paying customer
Sadly, I think so. I don't mind Triple H's creative work behind the scenes, especially since he's been big in creating talents in NXT and appears to want to make the divas division legitimate. However, I really, REALLY don't want to be subjected to 20 minute+ Triple H promos for the next 30 years.
Yeah, they didn't come out and say "Austin is a redneck and we hate him," but McMahon hating Austin's dress and "colorful language" irked him the most after WrestleMania.
Oh god, I hope not. Kane really doesn't do much for putting over new acts. I think the new NOD should band together and win the tag titles first and then try to go after the IC or World title. Not sure if they are going to get that prominent of a push, though. The original NOD only won the IC title and that was when the Rock won via forfeit from Austin in December 1997.
He's already a part of this angle. Making himself referee isn't interjecting himself into the angle, it's continuing with him in it, just like when it started.
I would love to see Hunter cut a promo on Cena where he's like, "You're a great guy, John. Your charity efforts have been the best in our history, and you carried the company for a long time. But having you be the world champion is bad for business. People are sick of you and your stale act and with you at the top there's no room for youngsters like Cesaro and Seth Rollins and Randy Orton to grow. What will we be left with when you leave if you're king of the mountain when you do? An empty mountain top. I appreciate everything you've done for us, John, but you not being champion is best for business." And sold.
I would guess that HHH and those around him believe he NEEDS to be there. Like his star power is helping keep WWE out of ratings and financial trouble.
I'm kind of digging this but it would just turn him babyface. Plus, it needs to have more corporate-ese nonsense. Break out a bunch of charts and powerpoints that make no sense saying how Cena is not best for business anymore. It may lose the fans but I'll laugh.
He's the COO, why would he have personal beefs with the talent let alone interact with them? I'll give you D-Bryan but the rest really don't make much sense. He may have petty beefs with them but why would you keep yourself from making as much money as possible cause you don't like someone? That's where the confusion is. If he were a wrestler then this would make sense. As an executive why the fuck would you care? Vince's beef with Austin was business that turned personal. HHH beefs are all personal.
Surrounding yourself with pathetic "yes men" like Kevin Dunn, and having your wife be a HUGE part of the creative process will tend to warp your sense of self importance. As if "Mr. Fragile Ego" needed any help in that department.
He's also feuded with Orton and Brock multiple times in the past. But if he's able to get over it with them because it's Best For Business, why wouldn't he be able to get over it with Cena? Not only is Cena Best For Business -- e.g., they just put him on the 2K15 cover, and just by looking at the crowd you can see they sell a ton of his merchandise -- but HHH and Cena's past feuds were never as personal and hate-fueled as his feuds with Orton and Brock.
Here's an idea: Stephanie returns on RAW pissed that HHH didn't move his feet fast enough to get her out of jail. Because she's the owner and he's the COO, she has more power than him, so out of anger she books him in a match with Reigns at SummerSlam. HHH loses that match and goes away from TV for a while.
It made perfect sense for the storyline. HHH is a heel. His idea of what's "best for business" is meant to be warped. As he said himself in a promo or two, he kept Bryan around because the fans clearly loved him, but Aitch's own bias against the "sawed-off midget" prevented him from giving Bryan a shot at the very top, and instead giving that shot to his handpicked guy (Orton) who the fans were clearly against.
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He's a villain, he holds grudges, he justifies his hatred for people but he's a petty bastard who resents people for their success and their independence. He doesn't fear Orton because he can beat Orton. Triple H couldn't beat Reigns and he doesn't have a great record against Cena, they don't need him the way Orton does, the way Seth Rollins would.
Triple H is an egomaniac that can't stand by and let himself be the paper pusher, he needs to be in charge.
It's perfectly reasonable. Cena is invincible and stubborn to a fault and Reigns is a cocky young badass who doesn't back down from anybody. Triple H hates them for that, he wants a whipped champion.
He beat Brock and he beat Orton. Plus Brock is pliable, he does what he's told (or rather what Paul tells him, and Hunter can boss Heyman around). And Brock is best for business because Brock believes in business, Cena and Reigns are irrational, they're emotional, they're heroes who go off and start punching people if they're upset, Brock doesn't get upset because Brock doesn't care.
And Orton is so reliant on the Authority for help with matches/emotional support, plus the old history with Evolution, he can control Orton too.
Then we get top heel Stephanie for a couple months before Triple H returns as a face? Fuck. That.
Triple H "realizes" that Batista and Orton were jokes and that he's the only one capable of taking out Reigns, add in the fact that Reigns was a tag-guy and hasn't competed in marquee solo matches and you got the basis of a feud. Triple H as the wily vet trying to tame the unstoppable beast that is Reigns?
I wonder if they'd bother having Kane feud with Xavier Woods' new faction. Although I'm pretty sure WWE will play them as heels -- because, well, they're fed-up Black guys and therefore bad -- technically Woods' beef is with the Authority. So they come to HHH demanding respect, and he siccs Kane on them.
ReplyDeletethat's one of the frustrating things with the writing. HHH doesn't really have a beef with the people he's feuding with or at least shouldn't. He's not feuding with the guys that have an issue with him or him with them.
ReplyDeleteIt made sense when Vince didn't want Austin to be champ. He didn't want redneck trash to be the face of his company when he'd been trying to shake that stigma from the business for 15 years. I don't see why HHH would have a beef with any of the top contenders, heel or face.
ReplyDeleteOr better yet, he can just never come back at all.
ReplyDeleteHe didn't want redneck trash to be the face of his company when he'd
ReplyDeletebeen trying to shake that stigma from the business for 15 years.
I never made that actual connection before, but you're absolutely right.
Agreed. I'm actually quite a fan of Kane, but it's time for him to take a step back.
ReplyDelete"Please never do another Kane feud. They haven't been good in a decade plus." Fixed.
ReplyDeleteHere's a scary thought: Lesnar beats Cena for the title at SummerSlam. Reigns wins the Royal Rumble. Reigns goes on to beat Lesnar for the belt in an absolute war... only to have Rollins come out, cash in the MitB briefcase, and steal the title away from Reigns. The Authority wins again.
ReplyDeleteMaybe WWE still thinks of Cena as "hip-hop," and hip-hop is still considered anti-authority, so that's the connection. Which would be kinda stupidly brilliant because then HHH is recalling his "people like you" persona from the Booker T feud.
ReplyDeleteEnding WM with a heel champ is rare, and I don't think Rollins is quite on that level yet.
ReplyDeleteI think Reigns will win the title, Rollins will cash-in sometime after WM and lose due to Ambrose interference, which sets up a triple threat title match between Reigns, Ambrose and Rollins.
I'd go the other way and have the whole card be Cell matches.
ReplyDeleteExactly, that's why Austin was a perfectly timed character that was a hit and none of this is connecting. It was even a stretch with Bryan. Now it's just stupid against Cena.
ReplyDeletehaha cena, hip hop. complete juxtaposition
ReplyDeleteAll of this Cena hate just comes out of nowhere. Back at Mania 22 they framed it where HHH was tradition and Cena was new school but that was 8 years ago. I don't see why HHH would care now.
ReplyDeleteAs a boss I'm going with the guy the fans want cause I want to make money. Bryan didn't have a terrible image so it made no sense for a COO to ignore the paying customer
ReplyDeleteIF Triple H makes himself the referee, I'm just going to laugh. This guy just can't help but interject himself in a hot summer angle, can he?
ReplyDeleteI don't understand his endgame. Not just for any angle but himself as part of the show. Does he plan to be apart of the show forever?
ReplyDeleteNo way they would do that with Reigns, especially if they view him as the future of the company. It would significantly chop away at his heat.
ReplyDeleteSadly, I think so. I don't mind Triple H's creative work behind the scenes, especially since he's been big in creating talents in NXT and appears to want to make the divas division legitimate. However, I really, REALLY don't want to be subjected to 20 minute+ Triple H promos for the next 30 years.
ReplyDeleteYeah, they didn't come out and say "Austin is a redneck and we hate him," but McMahon hating Austin's dress and "colorful language" irked him the most after WrestleMania.
ReplyDeleteOh god, I hope not. Kane really doesn't do much for putting over new acts. I think the new NOD should band together and win the tag titles first and then try to go after the IC or World title. Not sure if they are going to get that prominent of a push, though. The original NOD only won the IC title and that was when the Rock won via forfeit from Austin in December 1997.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. They should run a final angle where Kane is locked in a house and burned alive to make the story go full circle or something. I dunno.
ReplyDeleteHe's already a part of this angle. Making himself referee isn't interjecting himself into the angle, it's continuing with him in it, just like when it started.
ReplyDeleteI would love to see Hunter cut a promo on Cena where he's like, "You're a great guy, John. Your charity efforts have been the best in our history, and you carried the company for a long time. But having you be the world champion is bad for business. People are sick of you and your stale act and with you at the top there's no room for youngsters like Cesaro and Seth Rollins and Randy Orton to grow. What will we be left with when you leave if you're king of the mountain when you do? An empty mountain top. I appreciate everything you've done for us, John, but you not being champion is best for business." And sold.
ReplyDeleteI would guess that HHH and those around him believe he NEEDS to be there. Like his star power is helping keep WWE out of ratings and financial trouble.
ReplyDeleteI'm kind of digging this but it would just turn him babyface. Plus, it needs to have more corporate-ese nonsense. Break out a bunch of charts and powerpoints that make no sense saying how Cena is not best for business anymore. It may lose the fans but I'll laugh.
ReplyDeleteYeah, you're right. Well... unless they wanted to have Cena win the belt the next night on RAW.
ReplyDelete#LOLCENAWINS
He's never liked Cena and has feuded with him multiple times.
ReplyDeleteReigns was part of his former security detail that was insubordinate and is still targeting him and his crew.
Daniel Bryan was the antithesis of what his vision for the business is.
He obviously has no problem with Lesnar- despite their beef in the past, he's "best for business"- or Orton.
So I don't get the confusion.
He's the COO, why would he have personal beefs with the talent let alone interact with them?
ReplyDeleteI'll give you D-Bryan but the rest really don't make much sense. He may have petty beefs with them but why would you keep yourself from making as much money as possible cause you don't like someone? That's where the confusion is.
If he were a wrestler then this would make sense. As an executive why the fuck would you care?
Vince's beef with Austin was business that turned personal. HHH beefs are all personal.
Surrounding yourself with pathetic "yes men" like Kevin Dunn, and having your wife be a HUGE part of the creative process will tend to warp your sense of self importance. As if "Mr. Fragile Ego" needed any help in that department.
ReplyDeleteHe's also feuded with Orton and Brock multiple times in the past. But if he's able to get over it with them because it's Best For Business, why wouldn't he be able to get over it with Cena? Not only is Cena Best For Business -- e.g., they just put him on the 2K15 cover, and just by looking at the crowd you can see they sell a ton of his merchandise -- but HHH and Cena's past feuds were never as personal and hate-fueled as his feuds with Orton and Brock.
ReplyDeleteIt would be funny if he put Orton among the group of "youngsters" being held down by Cena.
ReplyDeleteThese multi-man matches are why guys aren't getting over. So no
ReplyDeleteIf they have those three feuds peaking at once, it could work.
ReplyDeleteIf Brock gets best at Summerslam and Cena is facing some random challenger in the cell cause it's cell time, that's a problem.
Here's an idea: Stephanie returns on RAW pissed that HHH didn't move his feet fast enough to get her out of jail. Because she's the owner and he's the COO, she has more power than him, so out of anger she books him in a match with Reigns at SummerSlam. HHH loses that match and goes away from TV for a while.
ReplyDeleteIt's not that hot of an angle unfortunately
ReplyDeleteOr better yet, if the 'youngsters' were both Orton and Kane
ReplyDeleteIt made perfect sense for the storyline. HHH is a heel. His idea of what's "best for business" is meant to be warped. As he said himself in a promo or two, he kept Bryan around because the fans clearly loved him, but Aitch's own bias against the "sawed-off midget" prevented him from giving Bryan a shot at the very top, and instead giving that shot to his handpicked guy (Orton) who the fans were clearly against.
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Because Cena beat Triple H 8 years ago and Trips can't handle that?
ReplyDeleteThat would make it the best promo ever.
ReplyDeleteBecause Triple H is not a rational person.
ReplyDeleteHe's a villain, he holds grudges, he justifies his hatred for people but he's a petty bastard who resents people for their success and their independence. He doesn't fear Orton because he can beat Orton. Triple H couldn't beat Reigns and he doesn't have a great record against Cena, they don't need him the way Orton does, the way Seth Rollins would.
Triple H is an egomaniac that can't stand by and let himself be the paper pusher, he needs to be in charge.
It's perfectly reasonable. Cena is invincible and stubborn to a fault and Reigns is a cocky young badass who doesn't back down from anybody. Triple H hates them for that, he wants a whipped champion.
He beat Brock and he beat Orton. Plus Brock is pliable, he does what he's told (or rather what Paul tells him, and Hunter can boss Heyman around). And Brock is best for business because Brock believes in business, Cena and Reigns are irrational, they're emotional, they're heroes who go off and start punching people if they're upset, Brock doesn't get upset because Brock doesn't care.
ReplyDeleteAnd Orton is so reliant on the Authority for help with matches/emotional support, plus the old history with Evolution, he can control Orton too.
Then we get top heel Stephanie for a couple months before Triple H returns as a face? Fuck. That.
ReplyDeleteTriple H "realizes" that Batista and Orton were jokes and that he's the only one capable of taking out Reigns, add in the fact that Reigns was a tag-guy and hasn't competed in marquee solo matches and you got the basis of a feud. Triple H as the wily vet trying to tame the unstoppable beast that is Reigns?
Reads like a feud, in practice I imagine it'd be a squash.
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