Its not confirmed as career ending yet. I personally suspect though that he either can't come back from this or has to remove a lot of the dynamism from his offense. He might be forced to reinvent himself and maybe be exactly like Regal, and that may not take.
But then maybe it makes him an intelligent wrestler that maximises his potential at one aspect of the game instead of being an 9/10 in a lot of things. And maybe he can figure out a character motivation to enhance his mic work.
You know what's an overlooked part of why people love Bryan so much. The man clearly loves professional wrestling. It's his passion. Nothing against guys who want a payday as long as they're consistently entertaining, but there's something special about a guy marking out for people other then himself.
I got the sense that while he's not talking to people about it extensively there are lots of guys will mention this or that from Japan. Interview was pretty short
He's going to look like late WCW Paul Orndorff out there. The powers that be didn't believe in him at 100%. With a dwarf arm you can expect to see him wrestling in ROH or TNA sometime soon. Next thing you know he's being out promoed in a tag team with EY. One of the absolute most heart breaking stories in wrestling history. It's a DAMN shame.
If, and i pray to Obalata this isn't the case, but if Bryan can't make it back from this injury he absolutely needs to be in. Florida helping run developmental. If his students catch even a fraction of his passion for wrestling we will see some great stuff in the future.
First of all, the reason Orndorff screwed up his arm so bad was that he refused to let it properly heal. Bryan is in therapy every day. Second, fucking really?
I just did. It was called "Just because one wrestler 600 years ago had a nerve problem not all that similar to this one, that doesn't mean Daniel Bryan's career is over, especially when he's having an elbow surgery that MLB pitchers usually return from successfully."
TJ: for some reason I'm on a. TNA kick and I'm watching a bunch of random shit on YouTube. First was Sting vs Jarrett from BFG 06(it was decent I guess). Now I'm watching my favorite tag team match of all time, AMW vs XXX in a cage. How AMW never got snapped up by WWE, I'll never know.
To be fair, you kinda are reaching. I mean, I have a theory, but part of that is based on how often the doctors have seemed to change their minds on what the fuck is wrong with Daniel. Not to mention, theres also the chance Daniel's putting on a brave face even though he knows its serious, and no details of whats REALLY going on have gotten into the sheets.
Likewise, theres a chance he works all of us to set off a nuclear pop at Survivor Series when he confronts Lesnar, but I'd say thats unlikely because RR makes more sense. But its not outside the realm of possibility. They did the same thing with Cena in 08, who was supposed to be out til Mania?
Bryan really does not care. When he was on Austin's show he talked about how WWE gives everyone these BS corporate personality tests and that the test taker said that he scored the lowest in company history for "ambition". To the point she said she didn't see how he even made it in the company.
Good to see some love for Nakamura-Shibata on day 1. That was one of the best matches of the tournament for me (I had ****3/4) but it kind of got forgotten about by the end.
All the Tommy John surgery references I don't get. T.J. Surgery is done to replace a ligament. They move the ulnar nerve during the process to keep scar tissue from putting pressure on it. Bryan would have the surgery to move the nerve, not replace a tendon, thus it would not actually be Tommy John surgery correct? Ball players have the surgery because they snapped a tendon, not because of nerve damage. Am I off base here?
It's all connected. The surgery repairs the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL), but I'm pretty sure the ulnar nerve is either moved or removed as part of it. It's not a nerve surgery, per se, per its application for fixing a pitching arm. But I can see why the surgery could be useful for someone with nerve issues in their arm who doesn't need to rehab to get back to throwing 90 mph sliders.
(I, of course, am no medical expert, but this is my best understanding of the elbow's interconnectivity and how the TJ surgery tries to fix it.)
I know we had our little back-and-forth a few posts after this. But I just now noticed that you spun this whole narrative of extremely unlikely fictional things, and then referred to these non-existent events as "one of the absolute most heart breaking stories in wrestling history."
A few things.
First, wrestling history is filled with dozens of performers in their 20s, 30s and 40s WHOSE LIVES HAVE ENDED, which I'd say is a bit more tragic than having elbow surgery.
Second, as detailed earlier, you're spinning this narrative in the gloomiest possible way by comparing it to an injury that's not only unrelated, but was treated by the medical science of 1986, not 2014.
Third, by referring to it as an "event" in "history," you seem to think this is a real thing that has happened.
Not to mention the arm de didn't exactly end Orndorff's career. The guy had a pretty substantial run in WCW, and it wasn't like he was the best worker on the planet before the injury. He had a great run with Hogan because they were involved in a great angle, other than that he was a guy with a decent finisher and a physique that carried him further than his charisma otherwise would have. Bryan's definitely got more to work with.
Hearing about guys like Bryan and Cesaro nerding out about G1 before they do a Raw or whatever is cool.
ReplyDeleteBryan talked about Raw. He made note of how lame the Clair Lynch story-arc was.
ReplyDeleteI saw that.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised he's not catching any heat for that.
ReplyDeleteIt was kind of sad that it seemed like just he, Cesaro, and Bray were NJPW fans.
ReplyDeleteLOL nice
ReplyDeleteIt's a real shame that THIS MAN is suffering for a nerve problem that is going to end his career. Meanwhile Wayne Ferris is perfectly healthy.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure it's way more than that.
ReplyDeleteIts not confirmed as career ending yet. I personally suspect though that he either can't come back from this or has to remove a lot of the dynamism from his offense. He might be forced to reinvent himself and maybe be exactly like Regal, and that may not take.
ReplyDeleteBut then maybe it makes him an intelligent wrestler that maximises his potential at one aspect of the game instead of being an 9/10 in a lot of things. And maybe he can figure out a character motivation to enhance his mic work.
You know what's an overlooked part of why people love Bryan so much.
ReplyDeleteThe man clearly loves professional wrestling. It's his passion.
Nothing against guys who want a payday as long as they're consistently entertaining, but there's something special about a guy marking out for people other then himself.
I got the sense that while he's not talking to people about it extensively there are lots of guys will mention this or that from Japan.
ReplyDeleteInterview was pretty short
He's going to look like late WCW Paul Orndorff out there. The powers that be didn't believe in him at 100%. With a dwarf arm you can expect to see him wrestling in ROH or TNA sometime soon. Next thing you know he's being out promoed in a tag team with EY. One of the absolute most heart breaking stories in wrestling history. It's a DAMN shame.
ReplyDeleteIf, and i pray to Obalata this isn't the case, but if Bryan can't make it back from this injury he absolutely needs to be in. Florida helping run developmental. If his students catch even a fraction of his passion for wrestling we will see some great stuff in the future.
ReplyDeleteWhere did you go to med school?
ReplyDeleteSo fun to hear that passion.
ReplyDeleteUniversity of Your Mom. Read a book.
ReplyDeleteOverreact much? And even if Bryan never makes it to a high level in WWE again guess what? We still have Mania 30.
ReplyDeleteI think even the office chalks it up to "looked fine on paper but didn't work in practice". I doubt they care either way.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all, the reason Orndorff screwed up his arm so bad was that he refused to let it properly heal. Bryan is in therapy every day. Second, fucking really?
ReplyDeleteI just did. It was called "Just because one wrestler 600 years ago had a nerve problem not all that similar to this one, that doesn't mean Daniel Bryan's career is over, especially when he's having an elbow surgery that MLB pitchers usually return from successfully."
ReplyDeleteIt's a long title, but it makes sense.
Whatever it takes to get DeMott out of there.
ReplyDeleteTJ: for some reason I'm on a. TNA kick and I'm watching a bunch of random shit on YouTube. First was Sting vs Jarrett from BFG 06(it was decent I guess). Now I'm watching my favorite tag team match of all time, AMW vs XXX in a cage. How AMW never got snapped up by WWE, I'll never know.
ReplyDeleteSounds like you read the cliffs notes. Grow up.
ReplyDeleteGiddy Meltzer cracks me up.
ReplyDeleteTo be fair, you kinda are reaching. I mean, I have a theory, but part of that is based on how often the doctors have seemed to change their minds on what the fuck is wrong with Daniel. Not to mention, theres also the chance Daniel's putting on a brave face even though he knows its serious, and no details of whats REALLY going on have gotten into the sheets.
ReplyDeleteLikewise, theres a chance he works all of us to set off a nuclear pop at Survivor Series when he confronts Lesnar, but I'd say thats unlikely because RR makes more sense. But its not outside the realm of possibility. They did the same thing with Cena in 08, who was supposed to be out til Mania?
Also, not to mention it's his ELBOW that has a nerve problem, something a lot of pitchers deal with, and not his neck anymore.
ReplyDeleteYeah, a nerve problem in his ELBOW. He'll be fine. Baseball pitchers deal with this all the time.
ReplyDeleteBryan really does not care. When he was on Austin's show he talked about how WWE gives everyone these BS corporate personality tests and that the test taker said that he scored the lowest in company history for "ambition". To the point she said she didn't see how he even made it in the company.
ReplyDeleteGood to see some love for Nakamura-Shibata on day 1. That was one of the best matches of the tournament for me (I had ****3/4) but it kind of got forgotten about by the end.
ReplyDeleteAll the Tommy John surgery references I don't get. T.J. Surgery is done to replace a ligament. They move the ulnar nerve during the process to keep scar tissue from putting pressure on it. Bryan would have the surgery to move the nerve, not replace a tendon, thus it would not actually be Tommy John surgery correct? Ball players have the surgery because they snapped a tendon, not because of nerve damage. Am I off base here?
ReplyDeleteBased on this exchange, Bryan's chances of a good comeback are about 20x better than yours. ;)
ReplyDeleteAre you feeling OK?
ReplyDeleteShut it down. Thread over.
ReplyDeleteIt's all connected. The surgery repairs the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL), but I'm pretty sure the ulnar nerve is either moved or removed as part of it. It's not a nerve surgery, per se, per its application for fixing a pitching arm. But I can see why the surgery could be useful for someone with nerve issues in their arm who doesn't need to rehab to get back to throwing 90 mph sliders.
ReplyDelete(I, of course, am no medical expert, but this is my best understanding of the elbow's interconnectivity and how the TJ surgery tries to fix it.)
Good to see Nagata getting his due.. Has been great for 2 decades now.. Still..
ReplyDeleteThat GHC title reign this year was stronk.. And his match with Ishii to wrap up the tournament was outta-this-world..
Well, one of them did.
ReplyDeleteThat was in orndorff's neck. Slightly different.
ReplyDeleteHold on a second.
ReplyDeleteI know we had our little back-and-forth a few posts after this. But I just now noticed that you spun this whole narrative of extremely unlikely fictional things, and then referred to these non-existent events as "one of the absolute most heart breaking stories in wrestling history."
A few things.
First, wrestling history is filled with dozens of performers in their 20s, 30s and 40s WHOSE LIVES HAVE ENDED, which I'd say is a bit more tragic than having elbow surgery.
Second, as detailed earlier, you're spinning this narrative in the gloomiest possible way by comparing it to an injury that's not only unrelated, but was treated by the medical science of 1986, not 2014.
Third, by referring to it as an "event" in "history," you seem to think this is a real thing that has happened.
So like I asked before: are you OK?
Not to mention the arm de didn't exactly end Orndorff's career. The guy had a pretty substantial run in WCW, and it wasn't like he was the best worker on the planet before the injury. He had a great run with Hogan because they were involved in a great angle, other than that he was a guy with a decent finisher and a physique that carried him further than his charisma otherwise would have. Bryan's definitely got more to work with.
ReplyDeleteExactly the kind of guy Vince should want to keep at the top of the card.
ReplyDeleteOver, damn good, and completely without an ego that needs to be baby'd