Well, Sunday is already over where I live, but I spent most of the day watching Royal Rumble 1994 and 2008. Got bored and turned it off. Took a nap.
Woke up and started watching Unforgiven 2000, for no adequately explored reason. The main event was a Fatal 4 Way between The Rock (C) vs Kane vs Undertaker vs Chris Benoit. And BAH GAWD it bought back a lot of memories.
A peaceful Sunday spent watching QUALITY wrestling with no disturbance from the family. Scott Keith must be rolling in his grave.
Hi guys, thanks for doing this stranger. I'm happy to admit I'm a loser. I went out the last two nights. Got invited to go out tonight but turned it down because I thought in my head "I wanna chill at home,watch movies, and post on the BoD"
So for the guys that were saying that the Oakland A's miss Cespedes, they dealt for Adam Dunn. I'm not sure he's the answer for them, however. This is a guy that hit .160 a couple of years ago....for a full season.
I'm watching PWG Eleven, so far so good. ACH is gonna be in the WWE in the next 5 years, no way they're not gonna try to hire this guy, he's charisma machine.
I don't get why people here even mention NPP. By far their most active thread is a thread about this blog. That's rather telling about how much their opinions are really worth. Blah blah blah, don't feed the troll.
I was kinda meh on the first two Hobbit movies when I saw them but I just re watched them recently and I liked them a lot more. Not LOTR quality but still good.
Sitting in a hospital room with my father watching a blowout on ESPN. Don't drink and drive, kids. Also don't hide being a full-blown alcoholic, drive into a tree and be in the hospital for 3 days without anyone knowing about it. Not cool.
Stinkin' fan boys. Liking stuff they like. Ruins it for the rest of us who are just trying to enjoy things for what they really are. They are really pouring dirt onto the grave of this thing called ART that I love so much.
He obviously lost whatever touch he had with those LOTR movies though. You could see it happening in ROTK. He had too much money to make these Hobbit movies.
I had fun staying in posting on here all day. Not shame to admit it. I'm going out today and tomorrow so there is a balance, I guess? I don't know. You may want to ignore me cause I'm a divorcee that has just turned into a complete man-whore
Your glass is half full, mine is half empty. They lost a threat in the middle of their lineup, and replaced him with a lesser threat. Other guys in the lineup benefited from hitting around Cespedes. In my opinion, Dunn does not provide that same sort of presence. He'll help a little, yes. In the end, I think he'll be a non-factor.
Hey I need someones opinion. I only have Antonio gates as a TE in fantasy (but play in league with a flex we/rb/te spot). Someone offered to trade me Edleman and Vernon Davis for Megatron. Should I do it?
I'm going with a strong no on that one. Honestly, you're not gaining much with Vernon that you probably can't pick up on your waiver wire. It's not worth losing Megatron.
These Hobbit movies really have an overabundance of CGI. There wasn't as much of that in LOTR. I enjoy the special effects CGI can bring, but too much can be overkill.
When you have a true elite at a position like Megatron, you keep him. The key to winning fantasy -- and I know about that as your defending 2x BoD Fantasy Football champion -- is minimizing risk and stacking the odds in your favor, so it's all about having money in the bank on your roster, so to speak. Whatever upside Edelman or Davis has, that will pale in comparison to what CJ will average, on top of the half-dozen MONSTER games he will put up (esp. with Stafford chucking it 40x a week). Calvin's an untouchable on your roster, don't get fleeced.
When Warrior was fired after SS 91 did WCW try to bring him in? What about SurSer 92? I know he couldn't be Ultimate Warrior but that has never stopped them before
I was bored to tears with that one... I watched it with my step son and he kept asking me when we were going to see Captain America... of course when I took him to see Avengers he asked me when we were going to see Batman so it is what it is.
They're decent, but there's more padding in both movies than a teenager's bra. The Hobbit should've been two two-hour movies tops; there's some great moments mired in a lot of boring or uninteresting stuff because Peter Jackson doesn't have a semblance of self-control with the material.
Second was fantastic. Great story that ripples the whole MCU, and I love the way they evolved the use of the shield with alot of creative offensive uses. I want 10 movies around Cap and Falcon.
I think he'll help a little bit, he's actually been having a decent season outside of the usual sinkhole BA. I think the middle of the lineup just needs one more threat to take the slack off the other guys in the lineup who are clearly pressing.
The only MCU movie I didn't like was The Incredible Hulk, and even that was decent. Thor 2 was fun (I love the climax) and I;m one of the biggest supporters of Iron Man 3.
While DC says is Impossible to make a Wonder Woman movie, Marvel does a film where one of the protagonists is a raccon that talks and shoots people with a rocket launcher.
Same. That was the one that made me a believer that the MCU could pull off any character, because I really doubted they could pull off Thor without feeling really dumb. And they couldn't find two better fits as Thor and Loki.
In week 5, Guardians of the Galaxy dropped only 5% from its gross last week. The staying power it's showing is nuts, and it's gonna be the first non-Downey MCU movie to hit $300m in the States. Not bad for a film that garnered a Hounsou-esque "Who?" reaction when announced.
Also the Dol Guldor stuff was awesome. The Sauron reveal was so great. I think the problem is that the Dwarves quest is the least interesting story in the movies.
Boring day here. Woke up, went to the gym, did homework. going to grill some steaks outside in a half hour or so. Also, the WWE Network officially stopped working for me only 5 days after my subscription expired.
When it's all sud-n-done , it'll probably wind up making more both domestically and internationally than Man of Steel. No wonder they're trying to put every DC character in existence in BvS.
Is that Option C? The only reason I don't like TNA's way of doing things is the X-Division Title is meant to highlight a certain style. It doesn't make as much sense for them to do it.
The UWF used to do this with their Television Title. ROH used to have a #1 contender's trophy. This way the U.S. Title is sought-after, and someone like Seth Rollins gets squeezed from both ends. Obviously, he doesn't want to cash it in now, but he guys like Reigns, Cena and (until recently) Ambrose nipping at his heels.
Let the IC Title be what it once was - the title for people who worked their asses off.
exactly. Reigns is awesome but I am afraid his push starts to feel less and less "organic".
I think the comparison to Orton in 2004 that I have read similar times during the last weeks is not that far-fetched. Orton is a pretty great worker (despite what some on this blog might think) but his whole push in 2004 felt too "forced".
wouldn't even be necessary. Batista didn't squash Triple H but beat him decisively. that was still enough to give Batista credibility for at least two years.
it means that Ambrose is such a "loose cannon" that he wouldn't hesitate to beat the crap out of Lesnar with a chair or the ring bell if he felt that he had to.
with a title match with different challengers each week it wouldn't take long until the title gained a lot more value (well of course, unless the WWE gets bored with that idea too quickly and books a title change two or three weeks after the first defense).
The secondary title issue, much like most self-inflicted WWE problems, is easily fixed. This a booked product, not a shoot. Which means you can, you know, BOOK THINGS. If you want a guy to be dominant, you (*gasp*) book him to be dominant. If you want a title to mean something, you actually book it to mean something. And so on.
This isn't UFC where an occasional box-office dud wins a belt and then you're stuck with him until he loses. If you think someone has the potential to be the next Big Thing, then book him that way. If it doesn't work out, then cut your losses and recalibrate. And if the current crop of headliners doesn't like it, show them the door and let them try and make things happen in Florida. Odds are, they'll fall right in line.
It's just a lack of long term planning. In years past they'd already know that they're doing at the next WM, or at least have a rough idea. These days they have no idea no idea what they're doing on Raw, and that's 24 hours away. And I think this is the cause of the 50/50 crap, not a result of it.
Yeah, but the average fan doesn't look at Ziggler winning the IC championship and saying, "pfft, yeah, well look what it did for Big E!" If they had Reigns win the US title and he just went on to dominate the title scene before losing it to another up and comer so that he can move on to the WWE title scene, nobody would think twice about the title being damaged goods. This is the same method that worked for Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Randy Orton, John Cena, the Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, and loads of others. And this whole idea of cataputing somebody to the WWE Championship only to "demote" them to the secondary titles -- like Sheamus -- does the Superstar more harm than good.
I just think of the men who successfully booked wrestling in the past and, well, most of them weren't Mensa candidates. But they had common sense and a feel for the audience they were catering to. And yet to hear some people tell the tale, booking is the hardest thing in the world and we internet nerds don't have a clue how hard it is. Seems to me if a guy is over, you push him. If someone doesn't like it, well, what are they going to do? Quit? In most jobs, if someone you don't like gets promoted over you, you just deal with it because you've got bills to pay and the job market sucks. Professional wrestling is no different.
Well, they have planned ahead to Mania the last few years. It's just that the majority of fans didn't care for the plan (Cena/Rock twice, Batista/Orton).
I think if they unified the US and the IC title and created some super midcard championship then it could work, but both titles in their current state would only pull him down.
No, they have planned the main event for mania the last few years. Everything else is on the fly. Which kills the product. Say what you will, but VR at least had a plan for the under/mid card
Yep. Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio turned the IC belt around overnight in 2009 after several years of being a useless belt and made the IC belt credible again.
It's booking 101: Put a meaningless belt on a top guy and it becomes meaningful again. Problem solved.
If it means less threadjacking... I'm all for it.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I'm doing jack shit.
ReplyDeleteThat's the purpose. I saw threadjacking yesterday, so I threw up a thread.
ReplyDeleteWell, Sunday is already over where I live, but I spent most of the day watching Royal Rumble 1994 and 2008. Got bored and turned it off. Took a nap.
ReplyDeleteWoke up and started watching Unforgiven 2000, for no adequately explored reason. The main event was a Fatal 4 Way between The Rock (C) vs Kane vs Undertaker vs Chris Benoit. And BAH GAWD it bought back a lot of memories.
A peaceful Sunday spent watching QUALITY wrestling with no disturbance from the family. Scott Keith must be rolling in his grave.
Hi guys, thanks for doing this stranger. I'm happy to admit I'm a loser. I went out the last two nights. Got invited to go out tonight but turned it down because I thought in my head "I wanna chill at home,watch movies, and post on the BoD"
ReplyDeleteThere's some fodder for you NPP trolls!
Dude calm down.
ReplyDeleteSo, I'm going to a college party thursday, time to meet the new Bixos(freshmen).
ReplyDeleteI think in the evening thread we have agreed to watch Night of Champions 2011 on the live stream at 8:00.
ReplyDeleteWatched Australia beat the basketball juggernaut that is South Korea, too tired to stay up to see the US though >__>
ReplyDeleteI'm very calm right now. You're obsessed.
ReplyDeleteHim, okay. Why that one?
ReplyDeleteObsessed with what?
ReplyDeleteJust because it's already up on the stream tonight. It's not a bad show, dude.
ReplyDeleteI forgot Taka Michinoku's theme had a "Fuck you" intro.
ReplyDeleteSo for the guys that were saying that the Oakland A's miss Cespedes, they dealt for Adam Dunn. I'm not sure he's the answer for them, however. This is a guy that hit .160 a couple of years ago....for a full season.
ReplyDeleteMeh, that was Punk-HHH, right?
ReplyDeleteIt also has Orton-Henry posing as Sting-Vader.
ReplyDeleteAbeyance
ReplyDeleteNo way.
ReplyDeleteNo it's decent I was just curious. Generally the BoD watches shows that are at least 10 years old lol.
ReplyDeleteOi... I had a pretty severe breakdown last night. I think I might have a pretty strong case of depression or something.
ReplyDeleteGo to a shrink, that's what I did 3 years ago.
ReplyDeleteI'm watching PWG Eleven, so far so good. ACH is gonna be in the WWE in the next 5 years, no way they're not gonna try to hire this guy, he's charisma machine.
ReplyDeleteI'm kidding. Happy to go back to school?
ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong?
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm really happy to be back in college. I was reading before a I got in to BoD.
ReplyDeleteAwesome, live it up. College is the best.
ReplyDeleteThey should bring in Okada.
ReplyDeleteHe denied a contract in 2012.
ReplyDeleteI'm losing my fear, I'm enjoying.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the BoD!
ReplyDeleteDamn you, Abeyance. I have to carry the slack for the alleged #1?
Offer him more money!
ReplyDeleteNot possible now for the WWE.
ReplyDeleteWatching Captain America: the first avenger. Okay so far.
ReplyDeleteI don't get why people here even mention NPP. By far their most active thread is a thread about this blog. That's rather telling about how much their opinions are really worth. Blah blah blah, don't feed the troll.
ReplyDeleteI wasn't honest with my shrink so it didn't help. Zoloft was bad for me too.
ReplyDeleteThe first one is really meh. I loved the second one, and loved even more because I saw with a date.
ReplyDeleteFair enough. I check their thread every week or so and it is quite sad. Jobber is public enemy number one there.
ReplyDeleteStill dating?
ReplyDeleteI tried to hook up with the Stossel fan but I think we're in this "just friends" vibe.
ReplyDeleteGood thing it's not a few years ago.
ReplyDeleteThat sucks. But again you're in college so I have to imagine you have other options.
ReplyDeleteI'm not really in "that sucks" thing, I'm slowly gaining confidence and changing how I look, one day I'll find someone cool.
ReplyDeleteThe point is: Dunn won't get you the World Series. The Angels have bypassed these guys.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but at least he'll strike out 200 times.
ReplyDeleteWhat an odd thing to be at a young age: a John Stossel fan.
ReplyDeleteThey got Dunn to help, not carry them to the Series.
ReplyDeleteShe studies International relations and is in the "Privatize everything" team.
ReplyDeleteFirst one is great.
ReplyDeleteI was kinda meh on the first two Hobbit movies when I saw them but I just re watched them recently and I liked them a lot more. Not LOTR quality but still good.
ReplyDeleteThe first half is great, but falls down in the second half where the action starts.
ReplyDeleteDunn will strike out with men on base moreso than make contact with men on base.
ReplyDeleteI agree with this. I liked them both enough. It gets compared to LOTR way too much by critics and fanboys.
ReplyDeleteSitting in a hospital room with my father watching a blowout on ESPN. Don't drink and drive, kids. Also don't hide being a full-blown alcoholic, drive into a tree and be in the hospital for 3 days without anyone knowing about it. Not cool.
ReplyDeleteListening to Shaq "I know I got skillz". Terribly underrated.
ReplyDeleteAnd? He will also walk a ton and hit home runs.
ReplyDeleteWatching Young Justice with the daughter. Kinda wish they used Garth as Aqualad.
ReplyDeleteWe are here for you like Flair was there for Sting at Halloween Havoc
ReplyDeleteStinkin' fan boys. Liking stuff they like. Ruins it for the rest of us who are just trying to enjoy things for what they really are. They are really pouring dirt onto the grave of this thing called ART that I love so much.
ReplyDeleteHow many hours are you ahead of us?
ReplyDeleteThe show got cancelled because it wasn't selling toys, UGH.
ReplyDeleteHe obviously lost whatever touch he had with those LOTR movies though. You could see it happening in ROTK. He had too much money to make these Hobbit movies.
ReplyDeleteYeah. It's kind of a great sequel to Justice League. Did they get two seasons or if it?
ReplyDeleteI had fun staying in posting on here all day. Not shame to admit it. I'm going out today and tomorrow so there is a balance, I guess? I don't know. You may want to ignore me cause I'm a divorcee that has just turned into a complete man-whore
ReplyDeleteYour glass is half full, mine is half empty. They lost a threat in the middle of their lineup, and replaced him with a lesser threat. Other guys in the lineup benefited from hitting around Cespedes. In my opinion, Dunn does not provide that same sort of presence. He'll help a little, yes. In the end, I think he'll be a non-factor.
ReplyDeleteCan the NFL start already? Good grief
ReplyDeleteThe Joel Schumacher sindrome, Jackson works best on low budgets.
ReplyDeleteHey I need someones opinion. I only have Antonio gates as a TE in fantasy (but play in league with a flex we/rb/te spot). Someone offered to trade me Edleman and Vernon Davis for Megatron. Should I do it?
ReplyDeleteWhat? NC A&T vs whoever the fuck they're playing not doing it for ya?
ReplyDeleteIt's not like they gave Cespedes away.
ReplyDeleteNCAA should really split up the first Saturday and move some games to today.
ReplyDeletehey man don't bury HBCU football! Let me know when it's halftime so I can catch the bands
ReplyDeleteI'm going with a strong no on that one. Honestly, you're not gaining much with Vernon that you probably can't pick up on your waiver wire. It's not worth losing Megatron.
ReplyDeleteIn my No Mercy Playthroughs these are the current champions
ReplyDeleteWorld: Jericho
IC: TAKA Michinoku
European: My caw
Tag belts: HHH and HBK
Light Heavyweight: Perry Saturn.
Women's: Lita.
I wouldn't do it. I'm always against trading away a guy who is basically guaranteed to put up numbers for you week in and week out.
ReplyDeleteI'm not a fan of college games on non-Saturdays. It's more about me jonesing for the NFL
ReplyDeleteThese Hobbit movies really have an overabundance of CGI. There wasn't as much of that in LOTR. I enjoy the special effects CGI can bring, but too much can be overkill.
ReplyDeleteWhen Jon Lester re-signs with Boston, they will have.
ReplyDeleteThat one is the George Lucas Syndrome.
ReplyDeleteI know it's a video game, but Perry Saturn is no LHW.
ReplyDeleteAlternate 8 booking: Flair vs Hogan and Jake vs Savage for the title.
ReplyDeleteThey were trading Cespedes in the offseason anyway.
ReplyDeleteAlso Taka is no IC champ.
ReplyDeleteGates is done.
ReplyDeleteIt's a video game, no need to copy reality.
ReplyDeleteThat is terrible. Even if you really believe in Davis, the drop from Megatron to Edelman more than offsets Davis to Gates (or a waiver wire TE).
ReplyDeleteavoid that trade
ReplyDeletegreat fucking song "I lean on the statue of liberty when I get tired"
ReplyDeleteHe cut weight, obviously.
ReplyDeleteWhen you have a true elite at a position like Megatron, you keep him. The key to winning fantasy -- and I know about that as your defending 2x BoD Fantasy Football champion -- is minimizing risk and stacking the odds in your favor, so it's all about having money in the bank on your roster, so to speak. Whatever upside Edelman or Davis has, that will pale in comparison to what CJ will average, on top of the half-dozen MONSTER games he will put up (esp. with Stafford chucking it 40x a week). Calvin's an untouchable on your roster, don't get fleeced.
ReplyDeleteWhen Warrior was fired after SS 91 did WCW try to bring him in? What about SurSer 92? I know he couldn't be Ultimate Warrior but that has never stopped them before
ReplyDeleteI was bored to tears with that one... I watched it with my step son and he kept asking me when we were going to see Captain America... of course when I took him to see Avengers he asked me when we were going to see Batman so it is what it is.
ReplyDeleteThey're decent, but there's more padding in both movies than a teenager's bra. The Hobbit should've been two two-hour movies tops; there's some great moments mired in a lot of boring or uninteresting stuff because Peter Jackson doesn't have a semblance of self-control with the material.
ReplyDeleteTranslation: The Winning Team
ReplyDeleteI love it. Very Rocketeer-ish in its style and fun, which makes sense considering the director. One of my favorite MCU movies.
ReplyDeleteHe better learnt he difference between Marvel and DC.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed it, but Winter Soldier was by far the better of the 2.
ReplyDeleteAh yes that is like stage 2 of getting divorced.
ReplyDeleteSecond was fantastic. Great story that ripples the whole MCU, and I love the way they evolved the use of the shield with alot of creative offensive uses. I want 10 movies around Cap and Falcon.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, Cap 2 is a top-tier superhero film. And it's not even my favorite Marvel movie of the year. They're rolling, as MAGGLE would say.
ReplyDeleteAnd still is not Marvel's best, it's a amazing film but IM1, GoTG and Avengers are better.
ReplyDeleteIn the words of Sting, I AGREE! My top 4 would definitely be that quartet.
ReplyDeleteI think he'll help a little bit, he's actually been having a decent season outside of the usual sinkhole BA. I think the middle of the lineup just needs one more threat to take the slack off the other guys in the lineup who are clearly pressing.
ReplyDeleteWhat would be the worst ones then? The only ones I can think of were IM3, Thor 2, and maybe Hulk.
ReplyDeleteCap 1 and Thor were the worst films.
ReplyDeleteMarvel is on roll, DC is desperate cramming everyone they have on their next film.
ReplyDeleteThe only MCU movie I didn't like was The Incredible Hulk, and even that was decent. Thor 2 was fun (I love the climax) and I;m one of the biggest supporters of Iron Man 3.
ReplyDeleteAnd I am so glad I don't follow those films.
ReplyDeleteIt's so out of character for me and I don't even care.
ReplyDeleteI hated the climax of Thor 2 ( the subway joke really killed it for me), but that final scene before the credits left me wanting more,
ReplyDeleteLadarius Green is going to get a lion's share of the touches at TE by year's end. Dude is legit.
ReplyDeleteIncredible is my 2nd favorite pre Avengers film, I loved IM3. The Mandarin twist was extremely well made.
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed the first Thor, more than I thought I would.
ReplyDeleteI honestly didn't see that ending coming. Great hook.
ReplyDeleteYep, I loved the Mandarin arc too, so much so that I wish they didn't retcon it.
ReplyDeleteWhile DC says is Impossible to make a Wonder Woman movie, Marvel does a film where one of the protagonists is a raccon that talks and shoots people with a rocket launcher.
ReplyDeleteI hated, but fanboys were bitching as hell.
ReplyDeleteRagknarok is coming.
ReplyDeleteSame. That was the one that made me a believer that the MCU could pull off any character, because I really doubted they could pull off Thor without feeling really dumb. And they couldn't find two better fits as Thor and Loki.
ReplyDeleteAnd the worst part is I don't see any Thor films in the near future.
ReplyDeleteNow why did I think that watching a documentary about a turtle's journey from Florida to North Africa and back again was a good idea last night?
ReplyDeleteI don't mind the padding. Thought Tauriel and Lake Town were the best parts of the second one.
ReplyDeleteWhy was Peggy Sue so cool with Honky Tonk clearly wanting to bang Elizabeth?
ReplyDeleteShe was a little freaky.
ReplyDeletesXe means I'm better than you
ReplyDeleteIn week 5, Guardians of the Galaxy dropped only 5% from its gross last week. The staying power it's showing is nuts, and it's gonna be the first non-Downey MCU movie to hit $300m in the States. Not bad for a film that garnered a Hounsou-esque "Who?" reaction when announced.
ReplyDeleteStraight edge also applies to movies? I think I'll watch Bellflower next time.
ReplyDeleteYeah, Thor had a nice coming of age tale, it became one of my favorites, until GoTG of course.
ReplyDeleteMy point was you were on drugs. You know what makes a joke funny? Having to explain it.
ReplyDelete::Meanwhile in DC::
ReplyDeleteDC president: FUCKKK!
Also the Dol Guldor stuff was awesome. The Sauron reveal was so great. I think the problem is that the Dwarves quest is the least interesting story in the movies.
ReplyDeleteBig props to Bradley Cooper; I was unsure about his casting going in but he fucking nailed it.
ReplyDeleteOhhhh.........yeaaaaah.
I didn't get it. You having to explain it then made me chuckle. So there you go.
ReplyDeleteVin Diesel too, he's the especialist of making grown men cry.
ReplyDeleteBoring day here. Woke up, went to the gym, did homework. going to grill some steaks outside in a half hour or so. Also, the WWE Network officially stopped working for me only 5 days after my subscription expired.
ReplyDeleteWhen it's all sud-n-done , it'll probably wind up making more both domestically and internationally than Man of Steel. No wonder they're trying to put every DC character in existence in BvS.
ReplyDeleteBellflower is great. Love the ending.
ReplyDeleteI would buy one for my cubicle, no doubt.
ReplyDeleteThe creative team would DIE if you took away their ability to job a champion to build to a title match.
ReplyDeleteIm guessing if they ever went along with this, they would immediately destroy the title's credibility by having the champ win it in a battle royal..
ReplyDeleteso sort of like TNA's tv title
ReplyDeleteIs that Option C? The only reason I don't like TNA's way of doing things is the X-Division Title is meant to highlight a certain style. It doesn't make as much sense for them to do it.
ReplyDeleteThe UWF used to do this with their Television Title. ROH used to have a #1 contender's trophy. This way the U.S. Title is sought-after, and someone like Seth Rollins gets squeezed from both ends. Obviously, he doesn't want to cash it in now, but he guys like Reigns, Cena and (until recently) Ambrose nipping at his heels.
Let the IC Title be what it once was - the title for people who worked their asses off.
He had a **** match with Angle?
ReplyDelete"when Reigns was obviously the best thing about the group over the next couple of years"
ReplyDeletewhen did that ever happen?
exactly. Reigns is awesome but I am afraid his push starts to feel less and less "organic".
ReplyDeleteI think the comparison to Orton in 2004 that I have read similar times during the last weeks is not that far-fetched. Orton is a pretty great worker (despite what some on this blog might think) but his whole push in 2004 felt too "forced".
was he appeal ever "silent badass"? I think at least after The Shield he was always presented as "the cool dude".
ReplyDeletewouldn't even be necessary. Batista didn't squash Triple H but beat him decisively. that was still enough to give Batista credibility for at least two years.
ReplyDeleteit means that Ambrose is such a "loose cannon" that he wouldn't hesitate to beat the crap out of Lesnar with a chair or the ring bell if he felt that he had to.
ReplyDeleteunfortunately that show isn't.
ReplyDelete... and playing the second fiddle to the heel-turned John Cena.
ReplyDeletewith a title match with different challengers each week it wouldn't take long until the title gained a lot more value (well of course, unless the WWE gets bored with that idea too quickly and books a title change two or three weeks after the first defense).
ReplyDeleteChris Jericho vs. Rey Mysterio in 2009, although one could argue it the title wasn't the focus of that feud.
ReplyDeleteSounds like damaged goods to me.
ReplyDeleteIt's time for him to get a new gimmick.
ReplyDeleteHow about Roman "Purple" Reigns?
I think it was the Raw after Wrestlemania 21. It was a great match.
ReplyDeleteThe secondary title issue, much like most self-inflicted WWE problems, is easily fixed. This a booked product, not a shoot. Which means you can, you know, BOOK THINGS. If you want a guy to be dominant, you (*gasp*) book him to be dominant. If you want a title to mean something, you actually book it to mean something. And so on.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't UFC where an occasional box-office dud wins a belt and then you're stuck with him until he loses. If you think someone has the potential to be the next Big Thing, then book him that way. If it doesn't work out, then cut your losses and recalibrate. And if the current crop of headliners doesn't like it, show them the door and let them try and make things happen in Florida. Odds are, they'll fall right in line.
get right the fuck out of here! you're kidding???!!?!!?!
ReplyDeleteOh I remember that match. Flair looked really old there. Sad.
ReplyDeleteIt's just a lack of long term planning. In years past they'd already know that they're doing at the next WM, or at least have a rough idea. These days they have no idea no idea what they're doing on Raw, and that's 24 hours away. And I think this is the cause of the 50/50 crap, not a result of it.
ReplyDeleteYeah, but the average fan doesn't look at Ziggler winning the IC championship and saying, "pfft, yeah, well look what it did for Big E!" If they had Reigns win the US title and he just went on to dominate the title scene before losing it to another up and comer so that he can move on to the WWE title scene, nobody would think twice about the title being damaged goods. This is the same method that worked for Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Randy Orton, John Cena, the Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, and loads of others. And this whole idea of cataputing somebody to the WWE Championship only to "demote" them to the secondary titles -- like Sheamus -- does the Superstar more harm than good.
ReplyDeleteI just think of the men who successfully booked wrestling in the past and, well, most of them weren't Mensa candidates. But they had common sense and a feel for the audience they were catering to. And yet to hear some people tell the tale, booking is the hardest thing in the world and we internet nerds don't have a clue how hard it is. Seems to me if a guy is over, you push him. If someone doesn't like it, well, what are they going to do? Quit? In most jobs, if someone you don't like gets promoted over you, you just deal with it because you've got bills to pay and the job market sucks. Professional wrestling is no different.
ReplyDeleteWell, they have planned ahead to Mania the last few years. It's just that the majority of fans didn't care for the plan (Cena/Rock twice, Batista/Orton).
ReplyDeleteGood point.
ReplyDeleteI miss the days where the secondary titles were used to get people ready for ME runs...or find out they weren't quite cut out for it.
ReplyDeleteHart Dynasty were fine, it was just a bad time for teams.
ReplyDeleteI think if they unified the US and the IC title and created some super midcard championship then it could work, but both titles in their current state would only pull him down.
ReplyDeleteIf we put the US or IC title on John Cena // it might repair the damage.
ReplyDeleteWork-wise or gimmick-wise? Colt's okay in the ring, but the comedy crap gets pretty tiresome after a while.
ReplyDeleteHey, J.D.! You still doing reviews? I always liked your ROH stuff.
ReplyDeleteNo, they have planned the main event for mania the last few years. Everything else is on the fly. Which kills the product. Say what you will, but VR at least had a plan for the under/mid card
ReplyDeleteYep. Chris Jericho and Rey Mysterio turned the IC belt around overnight in 2009 after several years of being a useless belt and made the IC belt credible again.
ReplyDeleteIt's booking 101: Put a meaningless belt on a top guy and it becomes meaningful again. Problem solved.