Hey Scott,
Try this one on: Ambrose/Rollins from Sunday is the third WWE PPV singles main event ever where both wrestlers were in their 20s.
The first two? Taker/Taker and Taker/Yoko, both 1994.
It's a useless fact, but goddamn is that a dumbfounder.
Was Undertaker seriously that young in 94? Damn.
Considering he was only 4 years into his WWF tenure at that point, that makes a lot of sense.
ReplyDeleteThere has to be a joke in there somewhere about bending over backwards, and trying to find something for her to do....
ReplyDeleteBroadcast Journalist Sunny.
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I'll be back in two minutes.
*Lights cigarette.*
ReplyDeleteThat is insane
ReplyDeleteSo it has been 20 years since a 20 something vs. 20 something main event. The youth movement is running wild!
ReplyDeleteTaker was 28, 29 in October, Brian Lee was 27, (turned 28 in November, and he was done by then), and Yoko was 27, 28 in October.
ReplyDeleteyour disqus handle is super relevant right now.
ReplyDelete"Tamara... it's Gar-den... Madison Square Gar-den... try again."
ReplyDeleteI do remember this. I read about her time in Smokey Mountain in the old PWIs and how hot she was, then she popped up as this events host and I was like, is this the plan for her??
ReplyDeleteI would have thought for sure that one of the Rock/HHH main events, or Rock/Brock would have qualified. Oh well.
ReplyDeleteSummer Slam 2007 Cena vs Orton is damn close. ;) Same with Rock vs Brock from Summer Slam 2002.
ReplyDeleteI could have sworn that cena/Lesnar main evented a ppv in 2003 for the title. At backlash 2003, it was rock/goldberg in the last match with the wwe title match in the mid card.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure she was willing to bend over backwards (or forwards) for WWF to give her something to do.
ReplyDeleteHey-o!
Rock was born in 72 and hhh in 69 so their 2000 matches would be close
ReplyDeleteYep, Cena was nowhere near ready to main event back then. It was basically billed as a squash for Brock, Cena was just barely relevant at the time (Feels strange to write)
ReplyDeleteIts funny. Undertaker to me has never been younger than 35.
ReplyDeleteLooks like Rock/Brock at SS2002 JUST missed. Rock's birthday is in May, he just turned 30.
ReplyDeleteFor curiosity because I honestly don't know, what ppv 1on1 main event has the 2 oldest wrestlers in combined ages?
ReplyDeleteoh that HAS to belong to WCW. Some combo of Hogan/Flair/Savage/Piper.
ReplyDeleteThis makes me wonder what main event features the two oldest wrestlers in company history, at least PPV-wise. Taker vs. Hogan?
ReplyDeleteJinx. Don't talk or I get to sock you in the arm.
ReplyDeleteThat Sting/Hogan match in TNA was the main event wasn't it? That would be a combined age of about 110.
ReplyDeleteFor WWE, actual last-match main events, maybe Lawler vs Piper at KOTR 94?
ReplyDeleteThat's gotta be it. Totally forgot about that hot mess.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Taker-Shawn?
ReplyDeleteI was going to say Flair-Hogan, but that was WCW (or maybe Australia).
Yeah they were both up there at that point. Very possible.
ReplyDeleteI might go with McMahon-Taker Buried Alive from 99.
ReplyDeleteSting/Hogan from BFG 2011 went on before Roode/Angle.
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to imagine Undertaker EVER being in his 20s.
ReplyDeletePiper was 40 and Lawler was 45 or so. Taker and Shawn were older in 2010.
ReplyDeleteWorst PPV main event in the history of rasslins.
ReplyDeleteAh okay. I wonder if Roode and Angle were able to follow it!
ReplyDeleteTo make your case even stronger, it was actually in 2003. :)
ReplyDeleteShows how much I know. This is why I don't gamble.
ReplyDeleteThanks - forgot how they shoehorned Kane in there so UT could return as Taker: Texas Ranger.
ReplyDeleteTNA doesn't count. (because I say so lulz)
ReplyDeleteMaybe Hogan vs HBK in 2005? 52 + 40 = 92.
ReplyDeleteAnd the sad thing is, it had a strong build, and both guys COULD have come up with a good psychology based match. But yep, absolutely horrible...
ReplyDeleteHogan vs Shawn from Summerslam 2005?
ReplyDeleteDoes the Legends of Wrestling PPV count?
ReplyDeleteGetting into "what constitutes the main event" territory now though!
ReplyDeleteThey all looked older back then. ;-) Flair with 40 looked older than HBK with 50. ;)
ReplyDeleteThat sounds like a winner. That was Hogan's last (and thus oldest) proper main event, and there hasn't been anyone older.
ReplyDeleteDidn't Lesnar face Edge after the won the Title from the Rock in 2002? Or was it a UK PPV?
ReplyDeleteHogan was born in 1953.
ReplyDeleteMcMahon was born in 1945.
Shawn and Undertaker were both born in 1965.
I think a combo of those guys would constitute the oldest WWE main event ever.
It was! But perhaps for no other reason than to disqualify it from this category, the match was actually Edge vs Brock Lesnar AND Paul Heyman in a handicap match
ReplyDeleteI was going to say Flair/Vince from "Royal Rumble, 2002", but that wasn't a main event. Same with Flair/Shawn at "WrestleMania XXIV".
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that the movie "Jack" was actually based on Ric Flair.
ReplyDeleteDamn, Shawn's been retired so long I didn't realize he was pushing 50 already.
ReplyDeleteIt's crazy that once they ended the Gladiator Faarooq character and broke up the Gunns, she basically did nothing but sell T-shirts and do Raw Magazine photo shoots until being put with the LOD. That's almost a year and a half of no real role in the company. And for a lot of that time Sable was doing the same thing, since Mero was on the shelf for most of '97.
ReplyDeleteWeird that they couldn't figure out a better way to use either of them (although I'm sure they were happy with the shirt sales and the ratings when they would do the modeling segments.)
That outfit is way too damn conservative
ReplyDeleteI never understood that match, because they were pushing the "new generation" everywhere and this main event looked more vintage than WCW with Hogan vs Flair...(same with backlund and his push).
ReplyDeleteI'd go with Flair/Hogan at Uncensored 1999. Flair was 50 and Hogan was 45.
ReplyDelete(Young) Age In a Cage!
ReplyDelete"even in SMW as a teenager you could see the star power she had"
ReplyDeleteAnd more importantly, a great rack and a fantastic can.
This was the weird time of WWF talking heads. Stephanie Wiand, Dok Hendrik, and the infamous Charlie Minn. I never understood why they had to change announcers names, it's not they were going to sell merchandise if they bolted to WCW.
ReplyDeleteSadly, that went on before Goldberg/Triple H. Hell of a PPV line-up right there...
ReplyDeleteI thought Jon Good was older than that, he started really young then
ReplyDeleteNow she's doing nude Skype shows for 20 bucks.
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Hogan/Piper, Havoc 1997?
ReplyDeleteNope, 44 + 43 = 87.
She was never a teenager in SMW.
ReplyDeletePiper would have been 41 then, so probably not.
ReplyDeleteTag main, so no.
ReplyDeleteWell, it became a tag main at least.
Considering he started in the mid 80's out in Southwestern and Mid-South (as a jobbing jobber)... 50's not that bad for him.
ReplyDeleteMan, four years into his tenure, Taker had already had a super heel title run vs. Hogan, went through god awful feuds with Kamala and Giant Gonzalez, was "killed" by Yokozuna and 12 other heels and had an angle where he fought his clone.
ReplyDeleteAnd this gimmick STILL has life 20 years down the line. Bravo, Mark. Bravo.
It's heartbreaking what a fuck up she is. :(
ReplyDeleteDid WCW ever have a PPV main event in which both competitors were in their 20s?
ReplyDelete52 and 40, respectively. I'd be surprised if this isn't it.
ReplyDeleteMr. Backlund owned this thing
ReplyDeleteWasn't that also when she reffed midget matches?
ReplyDeleteBetcha can talk her down to $7
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ReplyDeleteProbably. HBK was 40, Hogan was 52.
ReplyDeleteDid they ever had main eventers in their 20s? I think there was only Luger, Sting and the Giant...
ReplyDeleteTaker's birthday is in March, so he was 29 at the time.
ReplyDeleteLuger turned 30 in June 1988, Sting in March 1989. Giant debuted at the age of 23, so definitely him.
ReplyDeleteHuh, huh, you said "bend over:"...
ReplyDeleteFun fact: Magnum TA is younger than both of them. I would have not guessed that.
ReplyDeleteTBF, WWF gave her the former...
ReplyDeleteThough strangely, that squash feud is what got Cena over as an upper-mid carder. He improbably got over doing the goofy rap gimmick and then got fed to Brock before WrestleMania, and the rapping vignettes he did in the weeks that followed before his return transitioned him from Eminem wannabe to somebody to be taken more seriously, and the fans bought it.
ReplyDeleteSame thing with Hogan. Hogan has always been 40+ years old in my mind. It's the hair.
ReplyDeleteIt did seem odd that she was pushed as such a big deal and then suddenly nothing...maybe the Shawn affair, Bret rumors and drug problem held her back?
ReplyDeleteWas putting her with Bret ever really considered? I know there were rumours in WWF Magazine about it and she made comments about it on-air. It seemed like an odd pairing.
ReplyDeleteDavid Arquette was in his 20s
ReplyDelete... whoops.
ReplyDeleteBut what about Jay Reso?
ReplyDeleteIt's not that weird to me, really. Age means very little in wrestling. Internet fans have overblown it for years. Bret did his best work in his late 30s. Flair did much of his best work in his 40s, and so did Shawn and Taker. Most good wrestlers don't hit their peak until well into their 30s.
ReplyDeleteNope. Debuted in 1993 when she was 20.
ReplyDeleteI still think she's overrated. Yes she was attractive but her acting was terrible and she couldn't give believable promos.
ReplyDeleteNot odd to bret lol
ReplyDeleteKevin Dunn is why
ReplyDeleteBut, as Cornette noted, she loved the business, understood the business, was a good heel... And they pushed Sable instead.
ReplyDeleteDrugs were a big problem. And she was trouble hooking up with main eventers
ReplyDeleteSable drew money
ReplyDeleteLol. Nono
ReplyDeleteReal WCW fans don't talk about him.
ReplyDeleteHe always talked about procuring the chickenwing. Is that really the correct usage of procure? Or was misusing big words part of the gimmick that went over my head?
ReplyDeleteStop being a masochist
ReplyDeleteI know theres sort of a level of veteran you have to get to to be in a main event position, but that's pretty stunning nonetheless.
ReplyDeleteSo what's the oldest PPV main event? Hogan/Piper in WCW? Hogan/Flair?
ReplyDeleteI think most of it was that the Sunny character didn't fit her. Even back then, she just didn't come across as the happy girl. I found her dirty slut mic work in WCW was more fitting. Tammy's a natural cunt like Cornette says.
ReplyDeleteOnce the bandanna comes off, it's the phenomenon known as "Insta-Old."
ReplyDeleteFabulous Moolah could have drawn the same amount of money in her 70s had they given her the same push.
ReplyDeleteSunny did as well back when the WWF started its Internet launch. She wasn't as big as Sable, though, because she peaked at the end of the Dark Ages period.
ReplyDeleteI totally forgot that she was paired with gladiator Faarooq.
ReplyDeleteWhat a hot little bitch she was.
It's close. If he means securing it then I'll give him that one.
ReplyDeleteI think it was just Sunny trying to shoot her own angle back in the days when wrestling didn't use to be micromanaged.
ReplyDeleteDamn that's good.
ReplyDeleteAs a child of the 80s, Hogan always seemed old to me, but now when I go back and watch Hogan's old stuff and even his nWo stuff I always think how young he looks compared to today.
ReplyDeleteThe Rock, HHH and Lesnar are all superhuman in terms of how good they got while so young.
ReplyDeleteShe could, but as a heel. Her babyface stuff was meh.
ReplyDeleteI remember in '97 or so when Entertainment Weekly ran a coverstory on wrestling. They put Undertaker's age down as 37. I still can't find out if they got it wrong or if Taker is cheating a bit on telling people his real age.
ReplyDeleteFunny enough...I think Hogan looks his "youngest" as part of the NWO. Seems like it revitalized him.
ReplyDeleteha! great question. this too: i wonder what the median age is of ALL PPV main events by wwe... seriously i wana know
ReplyDeleteLike professional male softball players.. who peak in their late 30's!
ReplyDeleteWhat's bizarre about this? To headline a WWE PPV, you should be one of the very best sports entertainers in the business. It takes many years to hone your craft to that level.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that Ambrose and Rollins headlined a WWE PPV at this stage of their career shows how desperate they've become. It's no coincidence that the only other time this happened was 1994.
By combined age, it would be a World War 3 show.
ReplyDeleteWikipedia has his birthday listed as 1965, and I think when he won his first world title in 1991 he was the youngest WWF/E champion ever (at that point).
ReplyDeleteI remember when she eventually debuted with Skip, the Apter mags claimed she was using the talking head gig in order to scout Skip's future opponents. You gotta give them some credit for that one.
ReplyDeletethis is your idea of "conservative", not hers!
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