Fall
Brawl 1999
Date: September 12, 1998
Location: Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Winston-Salem, North Carolina
Attendance: 7,491
Commentators: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay, Bobby Heenan
Date: September 12, 1998
Location: Lawrence Joel Veterans Memorial Coliseum, Winston-Salem, North Carolina
Attendance: 7,491
Commentators: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay, Bobby Heenan
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
Well
we had to get here eventually, even though I don't think people
wanted to. The main event here is Sting vs. Hogan for the title and
Goldberg vs. Page because those are fresh matches. We also get to
see the Revolution rising up the card in a big No DQ tag match and
Benoit defending the US Title against one of the draws in Sid, who is
nice enough to give Benoit a main event rub. This is also the first
show without Bischoff at the helm so some of the details could be
interesting. Let's get to it.
We open with a video
that looks like it's inspired by the Matrix with rapid fire text
behind shots of Sting, Luger and Hogan as they talk about who can
trust each other. Hogan will NEVER screw Sting of course.
The
announcers, all wearing black ribbons in honor of Mark Curtis (nice
touch), aren't sure who should trust who either. Sid is officially
79-0 coming into tonight, because they wanted to match Goldberg's
Streak but couldn't even keep their fake wins even with Goldberg
fighting for the title in his 75th
match.
Video
on the Clowns vs. the actual wrestlers. The point of the video is
about whether they're wrestlers or musicians plus something about
Eddie and Vampiro not liking each other in Mexico. Nothing is
mentioned about the Clowns and Vampiro recruiting various wrestlers,
making it even more pointless than it seemed before.
The set is a big FALL
BRAWL sign with the letters being used as the video screen. As I'm
sure you can guess, this makes the video almost impossible to see,
meaning WCW managed to screw up the idea of A BIG SCREEN.
Insane Clown
Posse/Vampiro vs. Eddie Guerrero/Rey Mysterio Jr./Kidman
Same
opener as last month. Mysterio now has bleached blond hair and the
same attire as Kidman. We pause a bit as the heels are scared
because they've never seen the color yellow. Xanthophobists. The
stalling begins as Heenan points out the resemblance between Violent
J. (with hair as blond as Mysterio) and Brian Knobbs. Kidman and
Shaggy finally get things going with Shaggy sending Kidman into
Vampiro's boot. A dropkick puts Mr. 2 Dope (or is it Mr. Dope? His
parents gave him the middle name 2?) down and they botch a
wheelbarrow slam into a guillotine legdrop from Rey.
Eddie
adds the slingshot hilo and the Clown is in early trouble. Mysterio
hits the springboard falling splash before throwing him over for a
tag to J. A catapult sends him into the buckle and the Clowns do the
fake tag bit to bring in Vampiro. It's off to Kidman who dropkicks
Vampiro back into the corner, meaning we get more Clowns. Oh how
blessed we truly are. J. scores with a chop (wow he can stick his
hand out!) and it's back to Vampiro for a good powerbomb on Kidman
(that's twice in two weeks. Kidman must be sick) for two.
A
top rope spinwheel kick to the hands gets two for Vampiro as Tony
gets in the revelation of the night, saying he used to braid his hair
like Vampiro. Thankfully Tenay doesn't let that by but Tony gets
away from it as fast as he can. Back to J. for a weak chop before
Kidman nails him with a clothesline. Rey comes in with the
springboard seated senton and a Lionsault for two but the Clowns
cheat to take Mysterio outside. Shaggy even needs help whipping Rey
into the barricade.
Back
in for a chinlock and some horrible stomps from Shaggy. Vampiro goes
after Eddie and Kidman but it allows Rey to tag in Eddie to speed
things up. A quick mule kick puts Guerrero down though and it's back
to J. for a side slam. Shaggy drops a top rope legdrop, which barely
grazes Eddie's forehead for two. There is zero reason to allow them
to do high risk moves like that when they clearly can't do them
right. If nothing else it's not fair to Eddie to lay there with his
head and neck in danger like that.
Everything breaks down
and Shaggy and Vampiro HORRIBLY botch something like a 3D with
Vampiro sitting instead of falling and Shaggy losing his grip on
Eddie, turning it into more of an assisted backdrop than anything
else. Rey is down on the floor and seems to be hurt. Vampiro
gutwrench superplexes Kidman but eats a missile dropkick from Eddie,
who looks ticked off. The shooting star from Kidman is enough to pin
Vampiro.
Rating:
D-.
I feel so, so sorry for the Filthy Animals here as they were in there
with guys who had no business in the ring and had to babysit them.
Eddie had to take that legdrop on his head and the botched 3D and
Mysterio got hurt (might not have been the Clowns' fault to be fair).
These guys should be on the Revolution's level right now (Eddie
would be fine as a mouthpiece instead of Shane) but instead they're
in these bad opening matches because they have one talented guy to
work with instead of three, putting them at a huge and unsafe
handicap.
The Revolution
guarantees a clean sweep tonight.
We recap Lenny Lane
winning the Cruiserweight Title, which is basically just him sending
Rey into Lodi and rolling him up for the pin. Kaz Hayashi pinned
Lenny in a match against Lodi and that's enough for the title shot.
Of course these guys couldn't keep an eye on the Clowns while the
other three fight over the title.
Cruiserweight Title:
Kaz Hayashi vs. Lenny Lane
Lodi
has at least toned it down a bit and is just covered in glitter and
wearing leather pants. It's amazing how much different Tony is
without Bischoff around as he's staying on the stories and matches
without saying anything overly stupid. Feeling out process to start
until Lane prances around the ring. Kaz fires off some kicks to the
leg and kicks Lenny in the back to pull him down into a sunset flip
for two. That's a new one. A nice headscissors sends Lane to the
floor and he jumps into Lodi's arms in an old standard. Kaz dives
onto both of them and the champ is still in trouble.
Lodi
finally gets something right by tripping Hayashi to give Lane
control. A sitout wheelbarrow slam gets two on Kaz and it's time to
pose. Lane hits a nice sitout gutwrench powerbomb for two as this
match is actually pretty good so far. Kaz gets back up and sends
Lenny outside for a big flip dive. The advantage is short lived
though as Lodi gets in a cheap shot to give Lenny control again.
We
hit the chinlock with Chris Jericho look-a-like Lenny Lane telling
the referee to ask him. Hayashi escapes a German suplex and gets two
off a standing hurricanrana, only to get bulldogged down for the
same. The champ gets caught in a belly to back and a running Liger
Bomb out of the corner gets two more with Lodi making the save. You
can tell Bischoff is gone as Tony actually knew the name of the move.
Kaz
is crotched on top and you can see the glitter all over his back.
Lenny and Lodi almost collide, allowing Kaz to grab a victory roll
for two more. Lodi's next attempt at cheating works though as he
snaps Kaz throat first across the top rope, setting up a Skull
Crushing Finale to retain Lenny's title.
Rating:
C+.
Why do I have a bad feeling we just saw the match of the night? This
was far better than I was expecting, which isn't saying much as I
didn't expect anything from this one. It's a totally acceptable and
at times quite good match with Kaz being a good choice as challenger
of the week to Lane's title, even though he's just keeping it warm
until we get to a bigger name to take over as champion.
Here's
Sting for the pay per view interview before his title shot in the
main event. First up, Luger is on the verge of losing their
friendship forever. Tonight is beyond big for Sting so if Luger
sticks his nose in his business tonight, it's the same result as it
was last week. I'm assuming he means earlier this week on Monday
when Sting punched him but you can't expect grown men to remember
things like days of the week. Sting takes the mic and says his ninth
title reign could start tonight because it's showtime folks. This
really didn't need to be on pay per view.
We
recap the Revolution vs. the First Family and I still have no idea
why this match is happening.
Shane Douglas/Dean
Malenko vs. Hugh Morrus/Brian Knobbs
No
DQ for reasons that have yet to be explained. Shane says we're in
Saginaw, Michigan, which to be fair is where they taped Thunder a
mere ten days earlier. It's a brawl to start, which is what it
should be in a No DQ match. Morrus easily stomps Shane down on the
floor, leaving Dean to beat up both villains on his own. Shane comes
back in to low blow both guys as you can see the fans leaving to go
to the concession stands.
The
First Family poses outside so some baseball slides (baseball grab the
rope and kick for Shane) knock them into the aisle. The announcers
do everything they can to put the First Family over as a major threat
and a good team, even as Malenko and Douglas send them into the
steps. Lots of punching abounds until we settle down to Knobbs vs.
Shane in the ring. Brian gives him the Pit Stop before it's off to
Malenko to armdrag the legal Morrus. Hugh hammers away in the corner
but charges into Shane's boots.
Back
to Dean as you can still see about ten seats opposite the hard camera
sitting empty. They head outside with Brian sending Shane into the
barricade but Douglas trips Morrus off the apron to take over. Back
in and Knobbs slams Shane down, only to dive into a raised boot. The
hot tag brings in Dean to clean house as the fans really aren't
interested. Could it be because he's beating up some goofs who
should be headlining Saturday Night? Knobbs is sent to the floor
where he trips Dean, allowing Morrus to plant him with a slam,
setting up No Laughing Matter for the pin. It really was that
sudden.
Rating:
G.
As in good grief just close the doors now. I know the big match
coming later that people usually rant about on this show, but this
one is far more absurd. At least with the other one it's a big name
going over an up and comer. This is putting two young(ish) guys down
for the sake of pushing BRIAN KNOBBS??? To make it even worse, the
First Family would win a total of two more televised matches for the
rest of the year, meaning this didn't even lead anywhere.
This
comes off as more of a political move than anything else, as WCW can
now say the fans aren't behind the Revolution because fans rarely
cheer teams that lose completely clean to low level tag teams on pay
per view. “See? The fans don't like them so there's no point in
pushing them. Maybe they can put over the Rednecks again so we can
laugh at those southern idiots cheering a couple of cowboys.” The
No DQ stuff didn't mean anything else as they were only on the floor
in the first part of the match.
I
watched this match out of context a few years back and I was more
angry than anything else. Watching it again, with all the Nitros and
Thunders to give it context, it's more sad now. Somehow seeing these
two jugheads beat the team that should be helping bring WCW into the
new generation doesn't surprise me. It's something that makes sense
for WCW and makes me wonder how Dean and company managed to stay as
long as they did. That's sad.
Tony
immediately brings up Saturn being wrong about guaranteeing a sweep
tonight, just to emphasize that the Revolution is a bunch of losers.
We recap Saturn vs.
Steiner which is little more than old vs. new for old's TV Title,
which he's already said is worthless and doesn't even carry with him.
TV
Title: Perry Saturn vs. Rick Steiner
As
usual, the announcers talk about Scott Steiner like he's here every
week even though he hasn't been seen in about four months. Steiner
immediately takes Saturn down and hits him in the face as we're told
that Buff Bagwell hasn't arrived yet so there will be a replacement
for his match with Berlyn.
Saturn
speeds things up with a superkick and spinning springboard legdrop to
send the champ outside, setting up a nice suicide dive. The fans
aren't reacting to these moves but they're nice at least. Back in
and a release German gets two on the champ but he kicks Saturn
between the legs (thankfully the referee wasn't looking for a change)
to take over. Tenay talks about Mark Curtis passing away and you can
tell the announcers really cared for him.
Saturn
is sent outside and into the steps, followed by an exposed DDT on the
concrete. Now in 1986, that started a big house show feud between
Jake Roberts and Ricky Steamboat. Here, it doesn't keep Saturn off
his feet for thirty seconds. Steiner hits a good looking release
German for two and we hit the reverse chinlock to keep the crowd
comatose. Now it's a kneeling half crab, making Saturn slap the mat
to get the crowd fired up, which isn't tapping out because of.....uh,
reasons.
Steiner
clearly isn't even pulling back on the hold to make this an even
bigger laughingstock. Thankfully Saturn doesn't bother to sell it
and hits a middle rope dropkick and a modified t-bone suplex for two
of his own. The Death Valley Driver gets the same to make it clear
that Steiner is retaining. He rams Saturn stomach first into the
buckle but gets crotched on top. It's more false hope though as
Steiner shoves him off the ropes and hits the bulldog to retain.
Rating:
D.
Saturn was trying but you can't out work stupid booking. I have no
idea who thought keeping the title on Steiner was a good idea at this
point but they must have had a lot of stroke. The TV Title isn't
going to make it to the middle of April (and would be gone for about
two and a half months in between) and it's this reign that killed it.
The matches haven't been good (his opponents' halves have been
watchable but that's about it) and the fans just do not react to him.
Plus there was that time when he said the title was worthless. Why
keep the title around if there's nothing to it?
Tony keeps piling on
the Revolution and makes it worse by bringing up Goldberg beating
Steiner last month, just to emphasize how many people there are that
are better than Saturn.
Hogan
is sick of the wrestlers questioning him. He's promised his kids
that he will not stab Sting in the back because he would have done it
a long time ago. Tonight, he's taking care of Sting and he'll take
care of Luger later. Ignore the WE WANT FLAIR chants during this
segment because Flair isn't a draw, especially in the Carolinas.
The announcers
speculate about Hogan being worried. They really picked now to kill
time after three straight heel wins?
Berlyn vs. ???
Berlyn
has a big bodyguard with him meaning the horrible blonde interpreter
seems to be gone. The replacement opponent......Jim Duggan. Berlyn
jumps him before the bell but a dropkick doesn't put Duggan down.
Some clotheslines send Berlyn over the top and out to the floor for a
USA chant. After some stalling, an atomic drop sends Berlyn into the
corner as it's almost all Duggan.
Berlyn kicks him in the
ribs and grabs a headlock before Jim no sells a European uppercut.
An eye poke finally slows him down and we hit the chinlock to kill
whatever momentum they were getting. Duggan fights up and drives
some shoulders into the ribs before they hit the mat for something
resembling a wrestling sequence, which is somehow even worse than you
would expect. Now they just stand there and look at each other until
Berlyn hooks the worst snapmare this side of Dusty vs. Flair at
Starrcade 1985.
We hit another chinlock
as Heenan says this looks like two winos fighting over a bottle on
the sidewalk. Bobby gets in an easy set of jokes about a hair
takedown (“Is that German? When I'm over there it's Herr Heenan
and Okerlund is still Herr less.”) as they head outside for the yet
to be named Wall to run Duggan over with a clothesline. Back in and
they finally end this mess with Berlyn hitting a sitdown neckbreaker,
which Duggan sells by falling backwards onto him.
Rating:
F.
As much as I'd love to blast Berlyn, this was almost all on Duggan.
He wouldn't sell and spent most of the match making goofy faces
instead of doing anything productive. The announcers were more into
the bodyguard than the match, but can you blame them after this mess?
This was pretty much it for Berlyn as he wouldn't recover from this
mess. I feel bad for him as this is the second time this happened to
Wright. You might remember SuperBrawl V in 1995, where Paul Roma
basically did the exact same thing. That's some horrible luck.
We
cut to the back to see Buff Bagwell who says he can be ready in two
minutes but agent Mike Graham says the format has already been
changed. Buff hits the ring but Duggan is mad at him. From what I
can find, Bagwell didn't want to do the job so they sent Duggan out
there instead. As unprofessional as that is, can you blame Bagwell?
He was supposed to get this big push and then Piper wouldn't put him
over in a wrestling match and Bagwell's push was gone, so now he's
supposed to job to Alex Wright in a gimmick that has already bombed?
As usual, WCW seems to be a huge mess behind and in front of the
camera.
Quick
recap of the Tag Team Title feud. The Rednecks cheated to win the
belts and Harlem Heat wants their rematch. After all this mess
tonight, a simple story like that sounds great.
Tag Team Titles:
Harlem Heat vs. West Texas Rednecks
Kendall
Windham in a spot this big doesn't sound good however. Curly Bill
isn't here, which is probably best for everyone involved. Curt
however is here with the cowbell. Heenan brings up the Steiners as
the most dominant tag team of all time (because where would we be
without praising them in 1999?) and Tony says they were the best team
of the 1980s, despite wrestling for a year at most in that decade.
After
a brawl to start it's Booker kicking Kendall down before Barry comes
in and getting double suplexed. There's a big boot to Barry's face
as the crowd is trying to get into this for some reason. Then the
tag brings in Kendall and the fans go right back down, which WCW
never seemed to learn. Stevie stares at Kendall for trying to punch
him but a right hand from Barry puts him down. Barry just looks
horribly out of shape and it's a very good thing that he's wrestling
in a t-shirt.
Curt
doesn't seem to be paying attention as a double clothesline gets two
on Stevie. Ray powerslams him down and it's off to Kendall vs.
Booker with T. taking over with the usual kicks. Hennig gets on the
apron but Booker kicks Kendall down again, sending all three Rednecks
to the floor. Booker follows them out and gets beaten up as Stevie
is too slow getting over for the save.
Back
in and Booker shrugs off Kendall's lame offense and hits the ax kick,
only to have Barry clothesline him down. Hennig gets in some cheap
shots as Stevie gets held back by the referee. Barry's superplex
gets two with Stevie finally getting the timing right on the save.
The spinning sunset flip out of the corner gets two for Booker as
this match just keeps going. The referee doesn't see the tag to
Stevie and the Rednecks cheat even more.
Kendall
gets two off a middle rope clothesline and Stevie doesn't even have
to move from the apron to make the save. They redo the missed tag
spot but this time Stevie just beats the Windhams up anyway.
Everything breaks down and Curt hits Stevie with the cowbell but the
referee doesn't see the cover. Booker comes in off the top with the
missile dropkick to give the Heat the belts back.
Rating:
D.
And that's being generous because I've failed a lot of matches
tonight. This was so boring as it went on about five minutes longer
than it should have and didn't get anywhere. Harlem Heat getting the
belts back is definitely the right move, but we're right back where
we were after Road Wild went off the air. This show is long past the
point of saving and this didn't help things. It doesn't help that
this is the sixth match and the second won by good guys. Side note:
this is the eleventh title change of the year (counting vacations)
and we're eight and a half months into the year. There would be
eight more coming.
We
recap the Sid Vicious Streak and Benoit challenging him because
that's what a good, young wrestler does. Sid even called Benoit the
only member of the Revolution that stood out. Here's his reward for
impressing Sid.
US Title: Sid
Vicious vs. Chris Benoit
I
love how the announcers just talk about Sid's streak like it's legit
and the same as Goldberg's, even after showing us how he got there.
Tenay brings up the disaster that was the battle royal competition on
Monday to get things going. We start with the stalling as referee
Charles Robinson is accused of being a Sid cheerleader. Sid shoves
Benoit down and stops to yell at the fans. Tony: “That was a big
moment for Sid.” Sid knocks him to the floor with a shoulder as
the announcers are already treating this like a mismatch.
Back
in and Sid hammers away before choking on the ropes. A dragon screw
leg whip puts Sid down and Benoit starts working on the knee like a
smart wrestler would. An Indian deathlock makes Sid scream as the
empty seats are showing up again. The fans chant for Goldberg as Sid
gets back up and kicks at Benoit in the corner. A running boot
misses but confirms that Sid isn't interested in selling the knee.
Benoit wraps the knee around the post and crushes them between the
post and steps (Tony: “HOLY CHRISTMAS!”) twice in a row.
Sid
is thrown back inside and easily catches Benoit's top rope cross
body, even lifting up his good knee to drive into Benoit's back,
meaning he's holding Benoit up on the bad leg alone thirty seconds
after Benoit crushed it against the post. All hope is lost. Benoit
muscles him over with a German but Sid pops up and hits a Samoan drop
to counter a crucifix attempt. A cobra clutch puts Benoit down again
and we hit the chinlock (with Sid's hands around Benoit's face and no
pressure on the back because Sid CAN'T EVEN DO A CHINLOCK PROPERLY)
because all this no selling has made Sid tired.
Benoit
fights up and tries a sunset flip but Sid just sits on him to stop
any comeback attempt. Another dropkick to the knee puts Sid down and
there's the Crossface. Sid SLAPS THE MAT but it's hitting the mat in
disgust instead of tapping. My goodness this is killing my soul.
Sid of course gets to stand up and break the hold but is nice enough
to fall back down with his foot in the ropes. Not that it matters as
Sid avoids the Swan Dive and powerbombs Benoit for the pin and the
title.
Rating:
S.
For Screw You WCW. Seriously screw you. Benoit was doing everything
he could out there to tell a story by going after the knee and trying
to break Sid down but Sid just gets up and does whatever he wants
because WCW is run by a bunch of incompetent morons. It's even a
theme tonight.
The
Clowns get on the show because they're famous (to a niche group of
fans of course but when has that ever stopped WCW?) and WCW sends out
its talented guys to baby sit them. The First Family gets to beat
Malenko and Douglas completely clean because well why not. Then Rick
Steiner gets to keep his title because they haven't buried that thing
enough yet. Bagwell, who is a veteran at this point as he's been in
WCW for over eight years, doesn't feel like losing so we have to
watch Duggan be a disaster (and likely not get punished for no
selling) and then see Bagwell do a run-in anyway, meaning he likely
got a PPV pay day.
Then
the Windhams still have jobs despite Barry not being in good enough
shape to wrestle without a t-shirt on (which is too small and we can
still see his huge gut). Then there's this mess, which results in
Benoit being pushed down the card and Sid getting the biggest push he
ever had in WCW because they can't get any worse than this right?
I'm so glad Benoit and company would be gone soon because no one who
works hard even at all deserves to go through this.
And
just to top it off. Tony: “He earned win #80 here.” Again, make
sure you emphasize that the Revolution is just not good enough in
case someone thinks otherwise.
We recap Page vs.
Goldberg, which is basically Goldberg destroying the Triad to give
him something to do before the big showdown with Sid.
Goldberg vs. Diamond
Dallas Page
Tenay
brings up the Halloween Havoc match from last year before admitting
that it's a completely different Page now. We get an old school
weapons check....and the referee finds a chain. And a roll of coins!
That right there is the only funny thing we're going to see all
night. Goldberg slugs Page to the floor and the stalling is already
on. Back in and Page gets caught in a headlock before getting shoved
into the corner a few times.
A shoulder sends Page
back outside where he threatens to leave if the Goldberg chants don't
stop. They head into the crowd with Goldberg getting the better of
it, as if you would expect anything else. Back in and the Diamond
Cutter is countered into a powerslam. Page shoves the referee down
and kicks Goldberg low before pulling out a third weapon to knock
Goldberg silly. We hit the standard heel slowdown offense as Page
hits him with the object again. Thankfully the referee wasn't
looking for no apparent reason.
Off to the chinlock as
this torture continues. Goldberg Hulks Up but gets caught in a bad
looking float over DDT for two. Page tries a spear but gets suplexed
down for two as the Triad is here. Kanyon breaks something over the
back of Goldberg's head (drawing blood from the neck) and setting up
a left armed Rock Bottom from Page for two more. Not that it matters
as the spear and Jackhammer finish Page with ease.
Rating:
D.
One of the best matches of the night here despite being an exercise
in how long can we stay in Memphis before Page comes back and pins
Page. DDP was not working as a heel here with most of his heat
coming from Yo Mama jokes and then bad matches following. Nothing to
see here as the match was never once in doubt, especially with Sid
looming (and still not selling anything as he waits).
We recap Hogan vs.
Sting, which again is over trust or some nonsense like that involving
the Hummer, because that thing just won't die.
WCW World Title:
Hulk Hogan vs. Sting
Buffer
says Sting has no affiliation. Hogan doesn't really either does he?
Before the bell, here's Bret Hart (Buffer: “Only to pass on his
offer of good luck for both men. He's from the First Family of
wrestling.” Please, no more First Family tonight. They've done
enough.” Bret leaves without incident and I'm sure we won't see
him again. They shove each other around to start and exchange pokes
in the chest. Hogan works on a wristlock before taking Sting down
for something like an STF without the legs being tied together.
Great. I have to put up with 15 minutes of Hulk Thesz tonight.
Hogan
yells at some fans for some reason before driving knees to the ribs
in the corner. You can see even more empty seats near the back of
the arena and it's hard to argue at this point. Sting actually hits
the big jumping elbow drop for two and it's off to the test of
strength. Hogan kicks him in the ribs (called a knee by Tony) but
Sting no sells a suplex. Oh no he's been watching Sid tapes.
They
fight to the floor with Hogan talking about it being for the World
Title and choking with a cord. He's definitely wrestling as
Hollywood tonight. Back in and a belly to back suplex gets two on
Sting and we hit another chinlock. Off to an abdominal stretch as
Hogan's dominance continues. Right hands in the corner have Sting in
even more trouble and we're just waiting on the interference.
Sting
gets two of his own off a cross body and hits two Stinger Splashes
but misses the third. It's already Hulk Up time and the big boot
clearly doesn't make contact. Cue DDP to nail the referee as the
legdrop connects. A Diamond Cutter puts Hogan down and Sting is put
on top but Hogan kicks out at two. That's a Diamond Cutter for the
referee and another Hulk Up.
Now
Hart comes back in to take out Page but Sid comes out as well, only
to take the big boot to the shoulder (which he sells more than all of
Benoit's offense combined because of course he does). Luger comes in
but drops the bat he was carrying, allowing Sting to nail Hogan
(drawing the pop of the night), setting up the Deathlock on the
unconscious Hogan for the title.
Rating:
D.
You have to be a really, REALLY stupid company to turn Sting heel but
they somehow did it. This wasn't the worst main event ever, but they
clearly didn't have any way to make someone lose here so they went
with the big mess instead. I can live with that and the match wasn't
completely horrible, but again, they're trying to turn Sting heel and
as anyone who has watched wrestling for more than 18 seconds can tell
you, that is never going to work.
Luger
and Sting celebrate as Heenan is thrilled with Hogan getting stabbed
in the back to end the show.
Overall
Rating: Agoobwa.
The level of failure this show hits is beyond words. They have
somehow managed to do almost every possible thing wrong on a single
show and somehow made it even worse. I'm thinking of the good things
on this show and it's a very short list: Kaz vs. Lane was match of
the night by about ten miles, Page having weapons on him was a funny
bit, and.....someone help me out here. What else was good on this
show?
It
takes a very special kind of show for me to get mad fifteen years
after it aired when I already know the results. Somehow this show
did it as it took me all day to make myself sit through this mess.
WCW managing to stick around as long as they did is astounding to me
as there is no reason to stick around after watching something like
this.
This
is being written six days after the 2015 Royal Rumble, which made a
lot of people say WWE was a disaster. Whenever you get annoyed at
WWE, go back and watch some late 1999 WCW and your perspective will
change. WWE today is light years ahead of this as you can at least
get more than one good match and there's an actual story (albeit
somewhat misguided) in the main event. This show consistently goes
against every possible thing people could want to see and seems to
encourage its veterans to screw up and destroy the future.
I
can't believe I'm saying this, but this is actually worse than Heroes
of Wrestling, which aired about a month after this. Yeah Heroes of
Wrestling is a disaster, but it's a disaster in a way that you can
laugh at it. This show on the other hand felt more cruel than
anything else. It felt like they were trying to be as stupid and
short sighted as they could while taking the fans' money at the same
time. WCW has officially hit rock bottom and things can only get
better with Russo. I mean that literally. I cannon imagine things
actually getting worse than this.
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The fact that WWE is setting up anyone for the future puts them in front of WCW. WWE isn't WCW until the Shield, Rusev and Wyatt all walk out in the span of a year.
ReplyDeleteNo but those matches were at least consistently entertaining.
ReplyDeleteBad as RAW has been lately, it's still not the agonizing my soul is dying inside pain the last two years of WCW was.
ReplyDeleteHogan vs. Sting was far more played out that DDP/Goldberg. Before 2000, the only Rock/HHH match that I liked was the ladder match
ReplyDeleteGod, I'm old enough to remember when Hogan/Flair was the "never will happen" dream match. By 1999, seeing those two together just was painful to watch.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure why it was so confusing. They had the card announced on TV at least two or three weeks in advance.
ReplyDeleteIf their matches in 1999 were painful, their match in 2000 was excruciating
ReplyDeleteLet's not forget the best moment where Sting hits Hogan but instead of going heel, the crowd cheers for him as Sting was always WCW's guy while Hogan was...well, Hogan. Great sign how the entire turn was ruined from the start.
ReplyDeleteIn theory true but how bad would it be if the fans either A, left, or B, ripped the match apart? They could have won them back but it would have been a lot harder.
ReplyDeleteOh sure. That first feud was with Road Dogg I believe and then Ken Shamrock. If he was still in WCW he probably would have been feuding with Jerry Flynn or someone.
ReplyDeleteTrue. The fact we didn't expect such an awesome clash was what helped it work even better. Trying too hard might have marred it. Still amazing that a Rumble so bad could be preceded by a match so fantastic.
ReplyDeleteAnd let's not forget the TNA clashes....
ReplyDeleteOn second thought, let's do.
Still say, Triple Threat had gone AFTER the Rumble, at least the mini-riot reaction wouldn't have been so bad to close the show.
ReplyDeleteI love in his bios and the recent Monday Night War episode on him, Jericho acknowledges how, after his big arrival, he was pushed down in WWF, seen as a WCW outsider, shoved about the card....and yet he STILL seems to have preferred that treatment to staying in WCW one more day.
ReplyDeleteI love the ladder match and Backlash 1999 was really good for a spectacle.
ReplyDeleteI don't know what's crazier: that you torture yourself by watching all these crappy WCW shows or that you write such looooooooooonnnnnnngggggggg reviews of them
ReplyDeleteAlso, yes, the reaction at the Rumble to Bryan eliminated was bad but nowhere near as terrible as WCW ignoring how Flair had YEARS of fan support in the Carolinas but still shoving him downward, that was more mind-bogglingly stupid.
ReplyDelete"Whenever you get annoyed at WWE, go back and watch some late 1999 WCW and your perspective will change."
ReplyDeleteExactly. I haven't enjoyed WWE's main product in quite some time, but it's objectively much better than the last few years of WCW, which it is sometimes compared to by folks around these parts.
You left off the genius that the show had been built so bad that the cable company advertisements in newspapers were "We're the advertising agency and they won't even tell us who's going to be there! For God's Sake, don't miss it!"
ReplyDeleteAnd people still wonder how this company went under?
DDP vs. Goldberg wasn't as played out as Rock vs. Triple H was
ReplyDeleteYep. If nothing else you occasionally get something like the three way from Royal Rumble every now and then to keep you watching.
ReplyDeleteIt's like a drug. Also the worse the show is, the more I have to talk about.
ReplyDeleteOh, man, your reviews of Russo shows are going to be War and Peace.
ReplyDeleteHow about their matches from 2009? Did TNA ever run a Hogan v Flair match?
ReplyDeleteGlorious end paragraph rant.
ReplyDeleteAgoobwa! Boy Meets World reference!
ReplyDeleteIndeed. You're the first person to ever get that.
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciated.
ReplyDeleteAppropriately enough I had Life Is Beautiful as the last song while I was on the treadmill and it was wrapping up as I read that.
ReplyDeleteBacklash 2000* is probably the perfect Attitude Era-style match. Either that or Austin/Dude Love.
ReplyDeleteNow spoilers up of the tapings for eps in March and let's just say, hard to get into some storylines with the results coming.
ReplyDeleteExtending the drug analogy; so you're at Fall Brawl '99 now. If you're still alive by time you get to Fall Brawl '00, you're the Nikki Sixx of wrestling reviews.
ReplyDeleteOr cry.
ReplyDeleteI want them to work, I really do. Trouble is, I can remember several times when I get my hopes up (Aries as champ in 2012) and then they go and ruin it with stupid stuff (Claire Lynch, Aces & Eights, Bully/Brooke in that same year).
ReplyDeleteOh I'm sure they will be. Those at least have the potential to make me laugh though.
ReplyDeleteAt least you've wised up and no longer leading reviews with "It can't get much worse than this."
ReplyDeleteSting being heel also will never work because Steve Borden still wants to be the same Sting.
ReplyDeleteNo one is going to get over being a heel by wearing face paint and playing to the crowd.
But the point was true. Sting was never going to be seen as a heel by hardcore WCW fans over Hogan.
Hogan was hated from day one. That's why his turn at the Bash was able to work. Hell if you had done it as soon as 1994 it would have worked then too. Fans wanted to cheer Flair then.
People can say what they want about Cena, but when it comes to the big matches 9 out of 10 times he brings his work boots.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, you think UMAGA was the one carrying their feud?
ReplyDeletePlus, see how well he handled the massive booing Philly had for him, not letting it get to him and even playing into it. The guy knows how to work a crowd no matter what, a key reason he remains so huge a star.
He's foreign.
ReplyDeleteI loved what Austin said about him on his podcast once.
ReplyDeleteAustin: "Yeah he's had bad matches. Everyone has had a few."
Caller: "But Cena has a ton. What about his horrible matches with Kane and Big Show?"
Austin: "Alright. Name someone else he has bad matches with. Because two opponents out of the dozens he's fought sounds pretty good to me."
Caller: *silence*
But what was even MORE like a drug, was the drugs.
ReplyDeleteMuta?
ReplyDeleteDrink a beer for the working man, Steve.
ReplyDeleteHe also carried Khali to a respectable match.
ReplyDeleteI'll still take Hogan-Sting here over their Starrcade match.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely.
ReplyDeleteIf Spring Stampede is the best WCW PPV of 1999, what is the second best?
ReplyDelete"WCW has officially hit rock bottom and things can only get
ReplyDeletebetter with Russo. I mean that literally. I cannon imagine things
actually getting worse than this."
Famous last words....
......
ReplyDeleteUm......
Well.....
Mayhem?
If they had anywhere to go, they would
ReplyDeleteSpring Stampede is not just the best of 99 but one of the best WCW ppvs ever. Nothing else in 99 is close.
ReplyDeleteI recall Supebrawl IX and Slamboree being solid pay per views, for the time.
ReplyDeleteUncensored?
ReplyDeleteThat was my reaction
ReplyDeleteWish they would have had the Sting-Hogan rematch at Halloween Havoc, Sting-Bret at Mayhem, then Sting-Go look dberg at Starrcade.
ReplyDeleteNot that I know of
ReplyDeleteYeah, at least then he was feuding with some guys who had been booked pretty well in the last year instead of job city.
ReplyDeleteI agree it's just a great show regardless of the promotion. Everyone seemed to be trying that night. We even got a good Sandman match.
ReplyDeleteIt's one of my all-time favourites, any promotion. Just endless great matches. When even Nash/Goldberg somehow hits ***, you're watching something special.
ReplyDeleteI really enjoyed at the time how Sting went heel and just became more popular. That always made me laugh.
ReplyDeleteGreat review, as always. I'm giddy about your reviews of the 2000 stuff.
BTW - I'd still take this over current WCW because I'm entertained by dumpster fires. I'm a bit of an outlier in that respect, though.
He was useless.
ReplyDeleteScott seemingly hated that show, here is a link to his review from 2013 http://www.rspwfaq.net/2013/04/mayhem-99.html
ReplyDeleteSeems that may be the least hated show after looking up some reviews.
ReplyDeleteDuggan is one of the biggest pricks in the industry. But he seems to get a free pass from the fans.
ReplyDeleteWasn't Flair hurt at this point?
ReplyDeleteI liked the heel turn, especially since it was against Hogan. It gave Sting the badass edge he never had and why should anyone sympathize with Hogan?
ReplyDeleteNot having a Wargames match on this show was the first mistake...
ReplyDeleteI've never cared about him long enough to have an opinion either way.
ReplyDeletethat's where it pays off that there roster is really strong in terms of talent (although often frustrating for the same reason because the WWE doesn't utilize it enough): the average workrate is pretty high compared to a lot of stuff other companies and the WWE itself have presented us in the past.
ReplyDeleteI got to meet him at Axxess last year and he couldn't have been a nicer guy. Maybe he mellowed in retirement.
ReplyDeleteMuch appreciated.
ReplyDeleteA recurring thing I hear from guys who do radio shows is how the workers they admire the most and want to have on turn out to be total pricks while the guys with the terrible reputations are the most well-turned out and friendly guests.
ReplyDeleteIt was. I watched it last night, and the moment when he sent Magnus down the dead end was great. For me, the best thing on the show by far.
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