Thunder
Date: September 9, 1999
Location: Wendler
Arena, Saginaw, Michigan
Attendance: 4,653
Commentators: Larry
Zbyszko, Mike Tenay
Reviewed by Tommy Hall
We're into a new era
here in WCW as I'm convinced the company gave up at the last Nitro.
Unfortunately that means we have a taped Thunder to sit through, even
though the previous show felt like the taped episode. I know I keep
saying that things can't get any worse and I've been wrong every
single time. Let's get to it.
This show is in memory
of Mark Curtis who died of cancer shortly before this show.
Buff Bagwell vs.
Barbarian
Buff poses, then locks
up, then poses, then gets kicked in the face. I like this
Barbarian's style. He hammers away with every sort of strike you can
think of, only to miss a clothesline and get dropkicked out to the
floor. After a chat with Jimmy (who apparently speaks monster),
Barbarian comes back in and gets stomped down yet again. Jimmy
distracts Buff (like it's that hard) so Barbarian can hammer away.
Even Hart gets in some
choking on the ropes as he continues to be one of the hardest working
manager in wrestling. Barbarian gets two off a side slam and it's
already time for Buff's comeback with a cross body and neckbreaker
for two of his own. Jimmy throws something in but Buff intercepts it
and knocks Barbarian cold (1. Some hero. 2. Does no one remember
racial stereotypes?) for the pin.
Rating:
D.
Maybe Berlyn is right and we should all start speaking German. They
couldn't even let the guy who is supposed to be the hero win with his
cool looking finisher? If there's a guy who had one of the easiest
paths to being a face it's Bagwell, but instead he has to cheat to
win a match to set up a match where he's supposed to be fighting for
America. These are the kind of small things that really shouldn't be
happening but WCW seems to think no one is going to notice and/or
care.
Clip of Berlyn from
Nitro.
Now here's something
that has no business on this show: a geniunely good video history of
Sting and Luger, dating back to their arrival in the Crockett
territory and including clips from their time together as a team
(including Crockett Cup footage) and their feud over the World Title.
Van Hammer vs.
Blitzkrieg
Hammer starts fast by
throwing Blitzkrieg across the ring like the cruiserweight he
is.....and talks to the wrong camera. Blitzkrieg tries to get in
some kicks and speed things up but dives into something like the Eye
of the Storm (a Razor's Edge but Hammer spins him around and drops
him without ever leaving his feet). Hammer nails a running corner
clothesline and drops a leg (on the chest but close enough) for two.
A sunset flip goes as well for Blitzkrieg as you would expect and
Hammer suplexes him down again.
Another suplex drops
Blitzy again and Hammer goes up for a Swanton of all things. Since
it takes him as long as frozen molasses going uphill, Blitzkrieg
rolls away and hits a standing moonsault. He tries again since
nothing else has worked but only hits mat, allowing Hammer to throw
him around the ring again. They head outside to kill even more time,
and so Hammer can no sell a moonsault off the apron. Back in and the
cobra clutch slam ends Blitzkrieg with ease.
Rating:
D-.
So we had a long and boring squash with Blitzkrieg getting destroyed
for the sake of Van Hammer, who hasn't been going anywhere and won't
be going anywhere for the sake of filling in time on a taped Thunder.
And for some reason it got over five minutes, just so Hammer could
no sell Blitzkrieg's big spot and win with a move as lame as a cobra
clutch slam? All hail WCW.
Video on Page vs.
Goldberg.
Video on who was
driving the Hummer. Why am I supposed to still care about this?
Chris Benoit/Perry
Saturn/Shane Douglas vs. Chris Adams/Steven Regal/Dave Taylor
Regal and Benoit trade
headbutts to start as the fans chant USA. Off to Taylor for some
hard European uppercuts before a double tag quickly brings in Saturn
and Adams. Perry slams Adams down and drops him on his head for a
pretty scary semi-botch. It's off to Shane for some stomping as he
still wrestles like a heel after shoehorning his way onto this team.
Ever the genius, Shane
goes over into the corner and gets nailed by the Union Jack to give
the Europeans control. The triple teaming only lasts a few moments
but does include a save by Saturn. Shane rolls over for the hot tag
off to Benoit and everything breaks down. Benoit and Adams stay in
the ring and it's a German suplex into the Swan Dive and Crossface
for the submission.
Rating:
D+.
Really standard six man here as Benoit continues to be the only one
in the team that gets to show off in the ring. Malenko has the skill
but doesn't get to do much, Saturn is more flashy than skilled at
this point and Shane is a talker who is only average in the ring. I
do however like the Europeans as the talented losers who are always
going to look at least passable.
Lodi vs. Kaz Hayashi
This match....again?
Kaz goes after Lenny but Lodi screws up the double team attempt. The
spot is oh so hilarious that they do the same thing again until Lenny
finally proves his worth by distracting Kaz long enough for Lodi to
grab a suplex. Lodi takes him to the floor and sends him into the
barricade a few times before heading back inside for the basic stuff
he can do, mainly because he's just a comedy character who is
wrestling to continue an angle that should have died months ago.
A clothesline and
powerslam get two on Kaz and a middle rope bulldog gets the same. We
get the old Earl Hebner spot as Kaz tries a sunset flip but Lenny and
Lodi grab hands, only to have the referee kick them apart for two.
Kaz gets two more off a brainbuster before Lenny gets on the apron
again but Kaz sends Lodi into his partner, setting up a rollup for
the pin.
Rating:
D+.
The worst part about this match is it was fairly entertaining and had
a story to it: whenever Lodi was on his own he beat Kaz up but
whenever he tried to have Lenny help, everything fell apart. That
being said, it's fairly stupid to have Kaz in trouble against Lodi
before he has a title shot this Sunday.
Lenny tries some elbows
on Kaz but keeps hitting mat.
Video on Sting and
Hogan, who are suddenly friends after all those years of like, hating
each other.
Sid Vicious vs.
Adrian Byrd/Bobby Blaze
Both guys are allowed
in at once and it makes about as much difference as you would expect.
The powerbomb ends Byrd in less than a minute.
Blaze gets the same
treatment and Charles Robinson gets to hold up the signs. Sid says
his usual schtick about being the Millennium Man.
Here's the Revolution
with Benoit missing the US Title and Dean carrying the TV Title for
no apparent reason. You would think Saturn, as in the guy
challenging for it on Sunday, would be holding it but I'm not sure
WCW remembers what they're doing that far in advance. Dean rambles
about the title belonging to people like them and says Rick can get
it back in a match tonight, one on one with Sid staying in the back.
Shane does a bit better as he talks about the Revolution being
addicted to gold and not stopping until they have all the titles.
Barry Windham vs.
Booker T.
Booker seems to like
the look of that title belt. Kendall tries to validate his
employment by offering a distraction, allowing Barry to get the early
advantage. Booker hammers away with his usual array of strikes and
the flying forearm. They head outside and both sets of partners
(well partner in Booker's case) get in some cheap shots.
Back in and Barry nails
a DDT, probably the only non-striking move he can do at this point.
Windham hammers away and shocks me with a suplex before throwing
Booker outside for a Redneck beating. Back in again and Barry slowly
stomps away, only to miss an elbow. Mr. T. comes up with his series
of kicks and we even get some breakdancing. He loads up the missile
dropkick but the Rednecks come in for the DQ.
Rating:
D+.
Somehow this is one of the better matches of the night. I'm fine
with Harlem Heat being back together, but it astounds me that the
Rednecks are the best team they can find for them to chase. Kendall
isn't getting a rub out of this as he continues to be one of the most
useless guys I've seen in years. Can we get to something else for
these guys already?
Stevie tries to make
the save and gets beaten down as well.
Clip of Sting getting
laid out on Monday.
TV Title: Dean
Malenko vs. Rick Steiner
Dean is challenging but
has the belt, which apparently he stole at some point earlier in the
night. Rick jumps him before the bell and plants him with a suplex
as we already take a break. Back with Dean nailing a dropkick and
getting punched square in the face for his efforts. Cue Sid as
Malenko rolls Steiner up, only to kick him off and right into the
chokeslam for the fast DQ. The match might have been four minutes,
counting commercial.
Shane comes in and gets
beaten down as well. Benoit is able to grab the Crossface on Sid but
Steiner makes the save. Cue Saturn so we can see the ENTIRE
REVOLUTION getting beaten down by these two main event legends. Yes
I said MAIN EVENT LEGENDS, meaning only other MAIN EVENT LEGENDS can
fight them because that's how WCW works. Saturn finally backdrops
Sid to the floor and Steiner bails.
Goldberg vs. Bam Bam
Bigelow
From something nearly
on top of a pay per view to main eventing a taped Thunder. Bigelow
jumps him during the weapons check so Goldberg easily slams him down.
We get some Zbyszko level stalling from Bam Bam on the floor before
Goldberg catches a cross body attempt in midair. Goldberg just holds
him there before a World's Strongest Slam sets up a bad looking
armbar.
The referee gets
knocked down before Goldberg knocks Bigelow silly with a clothesline.
Bigelow hammers away with offense that doesn't require a referee
bump. Goldberg no sells everything and hits the Bret Killer kick,
drawing in Page. The referee, apparently in a coma by this point, is
still down as Goldberg spears Bigelow down. Page bails to the floor
as Goldberg Jackhammers Bam Bam for the pin.
Rating:
D.
The match wasn't any good but Goldberg was showing the old fire from
when he was World Champion. When he gets that power game going, he's
one of the most awesome guys you'll ever see and he was knocking
Bigelow silly out there. Page running in was pretty obvious, just
like the fact that he's going to get mauled on Sunday.
Page nails Goldberg
with a chair but runs away to end the show.
Overall
Rating: F.
See, Thunder does offer a legitimate alternative to Nitro. While
Nitro is a horrible show because it's illogical and repetitive,
Thunder is a horrible show because it's incredibly boring and doesn't
have good matches. They really need to get to the Russo era so we
can get something more interesting instead of just bad. Total waste
of TV time here and I don't want to see Fall Brawl.
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Eric Bischoff was removed from his duties literally the next day.
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ReplyDelete+1. Whoever sent this shouldn't assume he speaks for all of us.
ReplyDeleteThe match was drizzling shits, and that camera angle at the end was really fucking dumb...but hey...it was stupid fun.
ReplyDeleteWatching it again only reminds how lousy character development is in today's WWE.
Sid's only purpose in life should have been a pair of PPV matches with Goldberg. That's it. Instead, he was booked to make the rest of the roster look horrible.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, of course I considered the fact that it was just a rib or Mick being goofy or something, but either way this is pretty dumb.
ReplyDeleteI liked it cause it all came straight from the horse's mouth. When Vince does commentary at least the viewer understands whatever the hell he's trying to get over. I kinda wish he did commentary now to get some kind of explanation of this nonsensical booking
ReplyDeleteKaty Perry's Breasts are the halftime show this year.
ReplyDeleteHe put them in a fanny pack.
ReplyDeleteLove it.
I remember I liked that year's offering because I hadn't yet seen the Hardyz/Dudleyz table match, and they showed it. It was great.
ReplyDeleteYeah that would make tons of sense to do a network exclusive big match during halftime.
ReplyDeleteDude, Halftime Heat was ass. And seriously, go back to reviewing NXT.
ReplyDeleteThat's the joke I was trying to make. You no-sold it!
ReplyDeleteLet's be honest good shows do not make enjoyable reviews.
ReplyDeleteThe best rants are when Scott is taking the shit out of bad booking.
I liked Russo's dedication to character development back then
ReplyDeleteNitro in Sagnasty. Sad that my hometown and place I grew up in is always a sign of a promotion's decline. Oh well - I'll go to the bar district and cry in my beer at Mott's over it.
ReplyDeleteI like this match except for the finish.
ReplyDeleteI also just want to say that my avatar would beat your avatar.
ReplyDeleteHa! I agree
ReplyDeleteRock answers the phone: "I'm sorry Mankind is..a little tied up right now" ..... *chokes Foley with the phone cord*
ReplyDeleteI dunno, I love reading his play-by-play of great matches that have smart booking/psychology.
ReplyDeleteI remember being in awe of that Sting/Luger video with "wait...WCW actually REMEMEBRS when they were this great and still give us bad stuff?" Stunning.
ReplyDeleteMankind telling the crane guy to "get out, please" was a small highlight.
ReplyDeleteStarman was always my guy!
ReplyDeleteRAVEN FIGHT!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI loved halftime heat at the time but maybe it was because I was such a big Foley guy. I watched it back a few years ago and it didn't age well at all.
ReplyDeleteNot even just during half time. How many times a year are there opportunities for them to have a well-timed network special?
ReplyDeleteIs beefy code for rapist?
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ReplyDeleteEven Foley made fun of it. It's one of those dumb moments that goes "you know wrestling's fake, right? But here's an example of JUST HOW FAKE!" Nobody likes that.
ReplyDeleteI always used that clod Kin Korn Karn.
ReplyDeleteIt was a thing that only worked in the moment; when Rock and Mick had that white hot feud going, you had fewer compunctions watching two guys really pound the holy crap out of each other, and The Rock telling jokes in the middle of a brawl was really different. Plus, wrestling was super mainstream and they could actually put a huge match like that on in that context.
ReplyDeleteBut no, for posterity the match quality is dogshit. But at the time, me and my friends got together to watch the match...the Superbowl was an afterthought.
Unlike baseball, where you have to be drunk just to tolerate sitting there. /Simpsons
ReplyDeleteTHE RIGHT ANSWER, EVERYBODY!
ReplyDeletethis.
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